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TSMalcomShorten
post Dec 14 2025, 11:43 AM, updated 5d ago

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Every once in awhile you will see people posting those what it takes to be a good manager or leader posts, often talking about how the staff is always the victim and how bad bosses behave.

In an idealistic world, I would agree with those posts but in reality, it doesn't work at all.

They always say good bosses doesn't micromanage, gives the staff a lot of freedom, trust the staff, be kind to them, etc. In theory, this would help boost morale, boost productivity, and create a happy working environment.

However, they've never accounted for staff who have no sense of responsibility and takes thing for granted. When it comes to these type of staff, the old Chinaman style of managing people seems to be more effective. Basically, controlling them and instilling fear into them.

This is especially true towards Gen Z staff who has no sense of responsibility. I've seen a few of these Gen Z staff taking kindness for weakness, stepping over boundaries, and disrespecting their manager because their manager has been nothing but nice, AKA the textbook manager. One day, I saw a manager started to give up on the nice guy act and then turn 180 degrees on his management style towards these Gen Z staff, started to take back their freedom, scold them when they did the wrong things and being disrespectful, and guess what, it works and productivity went up. I guess sometimes, the older generation way of running the business does make sense to some degree.

Bottomline is, different management style is needed for different staff. The textbook LinkedIn way of managing staff only works if you have mature and responsible staff, whereas for others, instilling fear into them is the best way forward.
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post Dec 14 2025, 11:51 AM

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when u r dealing with ppl, there is no single formula that works for everyone. instead u need to adapt your style to the situation, culture and the personalities u r working with

some styles work best with some personalities but there are no single style that will make everyone happy at the same time
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post Dec 14 2025, 11:58 AM

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Topkek. Manager meaning u are managing humans. There is no fix method to manage human as there are too many variations. Meaning most important thing u need is common sense and empathy. The rest you improvise according to condition. Only bodo got believe the shits that linkedin post and follow bulat2, lol.

Bodo manager:
> i am a manager now
> let me go google how to be a good manager
> done reading those in fb and linkedin
> i am a good manager now, woo hooo

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:03 PM

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LinkedIn literally just socmed
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:07 PM

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LinkedIn all sembang kencang
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:07 PM

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You first need to remember those "how to" books and seminar just want to make money off you.

They don't care much if their books help you or not. They know how to write it convincingly so that you believe in them and buy their secret recipe
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:21 PM

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I see linkedin, I immediately shut down.

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post Dec 14 2025, 12:35 PM

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Case by case
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:39 PM

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you manage ppl according to different ppl and situations la
linkedin are for ppl who wants to appear to be hireable
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:39 PM

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The worst are ppl who never had any real executip experience teaching ppl how to be good executips

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post Dec 14 2025, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Dec 14 2025, 11:43 AM)
Every once in awhile you will see people posting those what it takes to be a good manager or leader posts, often talking about how the staff is always the victim and how bad bosses behave.

In an idealistic world, I would agree with those posts but in reality, it doesn't work at all.

They always say good bosses doesn't micromanage, gives the staff a lot of freedom, trust the staff, be kind to them, etc. In theory, this would help boost morale, boost productivity, and create a happy working environment.

However, they've never accounted for staff who have no sense of responsibility and takes thing for granted. When it comes to these type of staff, the old Chinaman style of managing people seems to be more effective. Basically, controlling them and instilling fear into them.

This is especially true towards Gen Z staff who has no sense of responsibility. I've seen a few of these Gen Z staff taking kindness for weakness, stepping over boundaries, and disrespecting their manager because their manager has been nothing but nice, AKA the textbook manager. One day, I saw a manager started to give up on the nice guy act and then turn 180 degrees on his management style towards these Gen Z staff, started to take back their freedom, scold them when they did the wrong things and being disrespectful, and guess what, it works and productivity went up. I guess sometimes, the older generation way of running the business does make sense to some degree.

Bottomline is, different management style is needed for different staff. The textbook LinkedIn way of managing staff only works if you have mature and responsible staff, whereas for others, instilling fear into them is the best way forward.
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No shit if you really are holy predator as some ppl claim damn you really did a near 180 when it comes to work life principles

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Dec 14 2025, 12:39 PM)
The worst are ppl who never had any real executip experience teaching ppl how to be good executips

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Those who cannot do can only teach....ironically also said by career gurus kek
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:43 PM

 
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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Dec 14 2025, 11:43 AM)
Every once in awhile you will see people posting those what it takes to be a good manager or leader posts, often talking about how the staff is always the victim and how bad bosses behave.

In an idealistic world, I would agree with those posts but in reality, it doesn't work at all.

They always say good bosses doesn't micromanage, gives the staff a lot of freedom, trust the staff, be kind to them, etc. In theory, this would help boost morale, boost productivity, and create a happy working environment.

However, they've never accounted for staff who have no sense of responsibility and takes thing for granted. When it comes to these type of staff, the old Chinaman style of managing people seems to be more effective. Basically, controlling them and instilling fear into them.

This is especially true towards Gen Z staff who has no sense of responsibility. I've seen a few of these Gen Z staff taking kindness for weakness, stepping over boundaries, and disrespecting their manager because their manager has been nothing but nice, AKA the textbook manager. One day, I saw a manager started to give up on the nice guy act and then turn 180 degrees on his management style towards these Gen Z staff, started to take back their freedom, scold them when they did the wrong things and being disrespectful, and guess what, it works and productivity went up. I guess sometimes, the older generation way of running the business does make sense to some degree.

Bottomline is, different management style is needed for different staff. The textbook LinkedIn way of managing staff only works if you have mature and responsible staff, whereas for others, instilling fear into them is the best way forward.
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yes. there are certain type that...

> does not have accountability
> when got issue, they pull everyone in
> steal credits
> simple 5 min task but make it look super complicated until can drag few days - 1 week. no joke
> blow water king/queen
> overpromise but under deliver
> due date comes, many excuse, suddenly got this issue that issue, if questioned why never flag up early. putar halim say just found out sorry. blah blah blah

i ban hiring that type. no choice. i rather have people who can work vs those who talk big/blow water only

cc patiencegnr doomsday
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 14 2025, 12:43 PM)
yes. there are certain type that...

> does not have accountability
> when got issue, they pull everyone in
> steal credits
> simple 5 min task but make it look super complicated until can drag few days - 1 week. no joke
> blow water king/queen
> overpromise but under deliver
> due date comes, many excuse, suddenly got this issue that issue, if questioned why never flag up early. putar halim say just found out sorry. blah blah blah

i ban hiring that type. no choice. i rather have people who can work vs those who talk big/blow water only

cc patiencegnr doomsday
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Give task and cannot or struggle to complete proposes to manager to do something else entirely. Can use the word championing this other effort

Ini bukan marketing or business development. Ini old fashioned engineering work topkek. Lucky not my workplace but my ex colleagues
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A good manager is the one who brings out the productivity in staff.


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post Dec 14 2025, 12:48 PM

 
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Dec 14 2025, 12:46 PM)
Give task and cannot or struggle to complete proposes to manager to do something else entirely. Can use the word championing this other effort

Ini bukan marketing or business development. Ini old fashioned engineering work topkek. Lucky not my workplace but my ex colleagues
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after proposing, end up still delay. or suddenly this plan cannot jalan. then boss see this person as unreliable. so push to someone else

then that someone else proposed and executed, but this person suddenly want back in, do small small task. but take credit later.
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QUOTE(mafioso @ Dec 14 2025, 12:48 PM)
after proposing, end up still delay. or suddenly this plan cannot jalan. then boss see this person as unreliable. so push to someone else

then that someone else proposed and executed, but this person suddenly want back in, do small small task. but take credit later.
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Wah ini very very very ular kek
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post Dec 14 2025, 12:55 PM

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just learn art of war

you only need two words, 'reward' and 'penalty'
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post Dec 14 2025, 01:00 PM

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the vagaries of human foibles and flaws are too unpredictable....just do what u can with what u r allowed to have.
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post Dec 14 2025, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Dec 14 2025, 12:39 PM)
The worst are ppl who never had any real executip experience teaching ppl how to be good executips

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Same la. Here in /k people who have no balls to be parents want to teach people how to raise kids.

Also give textbook answer like cannot cane kids must use positive affirmations.

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