LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! Now with V8
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 Nov 16 2007, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 03:08 AM) i vote for SIE- Saga Iswara Enthusiasts.. agree just dun like the word lowyat there..    passing by.... 1st spam in v8...  |
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Nov 16 2007, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Nov 16 2007, 10:40 AM) aiyo can use cloth wipe ma~ watch them do the job den can make sure they change the filter or not loh...wat i mean is use a coin make a small making on it lo. . . tat's how my dad knows if they change his oil filter or not on his vios lo~ |
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Nov 16 2007, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 16 2007, 10:43 AM) sifu has spoken i thought u said stand beside and take cangkul *dunno do what*...  yah normaly i stand or cankul beside see them change and chat with them some more   QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 10:49 AM) SC just call me. now going to collect car u dump ur car there and left ahh??... aiyo...when take ur car to workshop, best is to stay there and keep an eye on what they are doing... |
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Nov 16 2007, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 11:41 AM) Hi everyone, i am new in the forum and i m driving proton saga. "semangat saga" bolt on turbo can be installed in any engine... given that u willing to pay the price for the consequence or not... carburetor turbo must run with AFR vr rich.... cannot boost vr high.... u might probably get about max 200km per full tank.... it is purely nuts not wise to do it.... Anyone driving a saga with turbo here? Plan to install it to my car but i don't know anythings about that. Can expert guide me about this. Hope to hear from you all soon Did i ask at the right thread now? haha the proper way for bolt on turbo is using fuel injection engine... because the ecu can compensate the extra air entering by "squirting" more fuel whenever it is needed..... but if u really interested in turbo cars, i would recomend u to change a proper turbocharged engine... turbocharged engine usually has stronger connecting rods with low static compression... ideal for turbocharging... QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 11:52 AM) ya ya turbo kit, only can be install at fuel injection engine? My hope for turbo kit gone weber is a performance carburetor.... what is weber? haha QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 12:10 PM) i am driving saga 1.5 here. Just want to have more power mah recommended.... but at the proper path... no proper planning will definitely kill the engine and kill ur money.... i saw a few saga with turbo, addicted to them already. haha recommeded not to install? QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:13 PM) see ur engine can tahan the heat or not... if cant the valve rosak then tak boleh main.. see how u mod actually... some add turbo till valve spring also melt why engine cannot tahan turbo heat leh??... didnt use radiator or intercooler meh??... my friend driving 4g61t also using standard 1.3 radiator only... going beyond 180kmh also no overheating also.... QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 12:22 PM) introduce u mirage 1.5 EFI hlafcut where got 1.6 v6 turbo lah??... 6a10 is not originally turbocharged...i hv post at V7. or u wan turbo can find 1.6 mivec with turbo in halfcut. if u wan stronger can find 1.6v6 turbo but 1 thing. next yr fuel gonna increase. wajajajaja QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 02:11 PM) fei tai fu flying underwear...  |
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Nov 16 2007, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 02:18 PM) Wah..just went for lunch and come back already at page 7...Geng lar this forum here. Then i don't want to play turbo any more because of the fuel increase. Which shop you all recommend for me to go so i can put a new engine. SYN 800, what engine is that? if u have heavy foot, no turbo also can kill u lah... turbo owners, their car fc is more or less the same as ours... fc depends on how u drive the car only...btw, SYN800 is not an engine... its engine oil... |
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Nov 16 2007, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 02:34 PM) ok ok thanks to all of the information that you all given to me. 4g15, 4g61, 4g61t, vr4 But then which engine that can really fit inside a saga? 4g15 - normally found in older saga iswara and wira... can either opt for carburetor or fuel injection... 4g61 - 1.6 mirage engine... natural aspirated.... quite rare, coz more prefer the turbo edition... 4g61t - 1.6 turbocharged mirage engine... similar with 4g61 NA, but with stronger internals... price is soaring high because of high demand and low supply vr4 - basically the older 4g63t model... found in vr4 cars (turbocharged version)... its a 2.0L turbocharged engine... has vr strong block that can withstand high boost... block is even stronger than evo block.... QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 16 2007, 02:46 PM) Beside engine, any car accesories that can really boost the performance of the car? Right now i can really go 175km/h in MRR2 using my saga...lol 175kmh still not fast enough ahh??... Thanks wkho555 for the information, but then which shop should i look forward to check all this engine?  if wanna look for those engines, u should visit more halfcut shop... QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 16 2007, 02:48 PM) can add turbo on carbie engine.but FC sure will high...boost max i think 0.8bar-1bar. for carbie turbo, the higher u boost (within the limit of ur block strength), the higher fc it is even during idle.... unless u can create variable AFR setting for carburetors, which sense the total mass airflow into TB/carbie and then determine how much fuel to feed in...i selling BOT turbo for every car modal. but those customer mostly is all good engine & new type of engine.  Kindly vote for our New Club Name: LSIE - Lowyat Saga Iswara Enthusiasts 1. gilbert SIE- Saga Iswara Enthusiasts 1.flyingteeku 2. singchai 3. wong815 4. Kevin 5. BOT can be done on any fuel injection engine... depends on the mechanic creativity, knowledge and experience... yes, i support SIE as well..  QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 16 2007, 02:49 PM) 175km/h not enough??? mine 90kmh only ahh Mine 125km/h only -pWs- QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 03:46 PM) L for loupo... |
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Nov 16 2007, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 04:14 PM) wah...1st gear at 90km/h... 1st gear 10kmh nia...  |
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Nov 16 2007, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 16 2007, 04:28 PM) my one 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th gear also not moving 0kmh T_T T_T boss, didnt start engine ahh??...  QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 04:28 PM) wah...u really sifoo...1st gear is not 90km/h but is 100km/h... oit... simply edit my post... dun be humble la sifoo, hide the 0..heheh  |
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Nov 16 2007, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 04:36 PM) hehe..jangan marah sifoo...everyone know ur car is fastest here..hehe.. so despo meh?? just wondering, this v8 just 1 day, already 10 pages, 10 days already more than 100 pages.. seems we need tt in this 10 days before v9..hehe so, who organizer this time??... QUOTE(-pWs- @ Nov 16 2007, 04:40 PM) Sifooo humble niiiii i also speak facts leh... i dun tipu one...  -pWs- |
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Nov 16 2007, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 04:45 PM) sifu u wanna come up? depends when lah... i got exams end of this month.... QUOTE(andychan @ Nov 16 2007, 04:45 PM) i got start engine ramp untill 6k also not moving even i masuk gear 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th=.= u depress the clutch sure tak jalan lah QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 16 2007, 04:47 PM) wah 1st gear 90kmh i should be under this club.... my car so slow...  i vote for LTC - LYN Turtle Club ...kekeke ppl will think this club under pet section  |
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Nov 16 2007, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 16 2007, 04:51 PM) yeah...sifoo cat come up la duirng next tt...and our beloved TS,kelvin, we sponsor sponsor abit la.. really ahh??... got people sponsor??... Added on November 16, 2007, 4:53 pm what about little genting..?.. can test our monster ride.. where is little genting??...  QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 04:53 PM) we sponsor him come up kl. then he sponsor us to go down jb go jb mahal weh... Added on November 16, 2007, 4:54 pm u bully us 1.3 la...... wan us go up hill like turtle meh  yalor... dun bully me as well mar... i also 1.3 nia... QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 16 2007, 04:54 PM) Tomorrow will continue rear door. But too bad, I duno how to take out the door panel. Who can teach me? rear door panel easy to open nia... Added on November 16, 2007, 5:02 pm QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 05:00 PM) any1 know where to find the carpet in our car floor. thinking of after put the bitument strip then cover it up with the carpet. ^^ cannot use back ur original carpet meh??...This post has been edited by the_catacombs: Nov 16 2007, 05:02 PM |
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Nov 16 2007, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 16 2007, 05:03 PM) Antirust proofing? Apa tu?? ] there's a clip under the window handle... remove the pin can oledi...Rear door not power window.. Dunno how to dismatle the handle.. |
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Nov 16 2007, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(yohomies @ Nov 16 2007, 05:08 PM) singchaii > may i give my 2 cents opinion... the bitumen strip on the plastic panel really not necessary, if can put a layer of superlon/insulfex on it (so it will sit between the plactic and mid metal frame). Then theres holes on da mid metal frame rite? cover it up too after u done the outer (door skin). Its more like = bitumen compound -> absorb sound... superlon/insulflex (sponge compound) -> isolate/block sound yea... the door panel should stick with superlon... while metal part stick bitumen....QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 05:09 PM) rea boot where got carpet ler... ooo... den u stick with superlon loh... better sound proofing... |
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Nov 16 2007, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 16 2007, 06:23 PM) Got meh? Got picture show me? Hehe. got lah... but in hardcopy (proton haynes manual book)... i dun have scanner ler... QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 07:50 PM) dunno o. Zzzzz. what rear handle??.... use tali rafia enough la... save weight... any1 know can we fix back the rear handle? |
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Nov 16 2007, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 08:51 PM) on roof top 1 ler. front hv. rear dun hv >.< ooo... use old leather belt and customize loh... lamborghini gallardo superleggera style... |
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Nov 16 2007, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 16 2007, 09:07 PM) Where you bought that book??? got la some good samaritan offer to let me photostat the book from him... Snap picture, then post lor. Hehe..  the pic not clear la... some more black n white... u know lah photostat version books... if u wanna see TT, i bring down loh...or u guys wanna bulk order, i duplicate a few and sell to u guys... list of those who wants haynes saga iswara manual book - - - - |
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Nov 16 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 16 2007, 09:16 PM) errrm. nid to see 1st b4 buy no problem... den i dun photostat first loh...  |
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Nov 17 2007, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 17 2007, 01:29 AM) This the design...just finish 1,few more will be done in a week time like halloween... No.1  |
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Nov 18 2007, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(wong815 @ Nov 17 2007, 03:23 PM) TO Catacomb: photocopy cost also above 10bucks lah list of those who wants haynes saga iswara manual book - i want. i know the original cost around 100. I am willing to pay something circa 10 on top of ur printing charge. fren fren price. can? - - - the book is about 1.1cm thick... dunno how many pages, lazy wanna count... but its standard A4 paper lah.... QUOTE(apache_utara @ Nov 17 2007, 08:03 PM) oh yeah, as expected loh... proton oledi develop so-called own campro engine... even sneo 1.3 also using it... of coz the new saga will be using it as well....just heard the new saga would have the s4pe engine ( campro 1.3 ) + VIM  QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 17 2007, 08:16 PM) sien camxpro engine... i still prefer mitsubishi engine if possible put in mivec engine..  QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 17 2007, 08:22 PM) i think the car ll be underpower if they put in 1.3 on that car.. unless then wan to use the similar chasis (soft and thin) like our LMST. if not that car sure underpower if they intro auto some more then sure campro 1.3 producing about 93bhp mah.... under power meh??... mayb the power only comes at high rev la, thats why low end people say underpower.... i not sure, didnt see the campro engine torque graph before.... . shd put 1.5 engine on that sedan..to compete with vios and city but with an entry level car QUOTE(singchaii @ Nov 17 2007, 10:19 PM) Let vote. i vote 3rd... keep it simple loh...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Simple and easy.. Haha.. QUOTE(yewwing @ Nov 18 2007, 12:40 AM) where to stick the sticker if you all done with the design? is for windscreen u vr advance ahh... so fast discuss where to stick the sticker adi.... what design also not confirmed yet... |
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Nov 19 2007, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 18 2007, 11:02 PM) u wan put the 3 light shiftlight arr. den can be traffic light adi...  QUOTE(wkho555 @ Nov 18 2007, 11:13 PM) Added on November 18, 2007, 11:14 pm the 1 hv 3 light nice.  QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:16 AM) info info hot info... sifoo... A turbo timer is a device designed to keep an automotive engine running for a pre-specified period of time in order to automatically execute the cool-down period required to prevent premature turbo wear and failure. After a period of driving when a turbocharger has been working hard, it is important to let the engine run at idle speed for a period of time, allowing the compressor assembly to cool from the lower gas temperatures in both the exhaust and intake tracts. At the same time the lubricating oil from the engine is able to circulate properly so the turbine won't burn the lubricating oil that would otherwise be trapped within the charger with the turbine rotating at high speed. With regard to modern automotive turbochargers, the need for a turbo timer can be eliminated by simply ensuring the car does not produce any 'boost' (during driving) for several minutes prior to the ignition being shut off. QUOTE(flyingteeku @ Nov 19 2007, 01:52 AM) Added on November 19, 2007, 1:53 amanyone knows what is the symptom if distributor KO?..jerking then engine dies? |
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