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hkindaichi
post Dec 8 2025, 08:35 AM

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how much lower without parking space? hello minister, this is capitalism country, no such thing as lower price la.
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post Dec 8 2025, 08:40 AM

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Reduce jam

More parking more car more jam
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post Dec 8 2025, 08:41 AM

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I been to countries where people can go around without car

1. Extensive rail system
2. Well planned side walk (🚶 in town planning)
3. Concentrated downtown offices
4. Reliable bus service
5. Weather suitable for outdoor walk

Malaysia failed 5/5 therefore people still partially need car/bike to travel.

To give context:

1. Msia only has 4 reliable transport rail (KTM commuters and monorail are rubbish), circle line coming up. As compared to other cosmopolitan city, probably at least 10.

2. Msia side walks despite having some become motorbike parking, others have to walk on road instead, some out of sudden will block by tree / lamp post, poorly planned side walk. And our road can be hilly at some area.

3. Klang Valley has a lot of satellite cities that not easily accessible by public transport. Unlike others with a downtown, KV offices widely spread around.

4. Bus … needless to say.

5. Our weather is 27-30 degree + humid = sweat like hell if expose too long, need to shower in office / destination. Sometimes rain like hellfire …

This post has been edited by p4n6: Dec 8 2025, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 7 2025, 10:52 PM)
I don't see a problem. If you want more parking space, just don't stay in new apartment near LRT station. Realistically, the odds of someone with multiple cars wanting to stay in a new apartment near an LRT station is very low.
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You go and see the surroundings of Muhibbah station and Bandar Sri Permaisuri first. Both areas are focused on its proximity to LRT station and cars are double parked everywhere due to lack of parking space in the apartment.
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post Dec 8 2025, 08:53 AM

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i think the first response from every1 here is NOOOOO. BODO. how am i gonna go anywhere. but dont always so negative la. think from other views first. while i memang the type which need my car but i got a few frens who totally hardly use cars. 1 got axia but never use. go work take bus, lrt, he work near to company. go out always car pool or take grab. then another fella totally no car. grab and lrt. he said he got no issue. so ah loke cadang those near to public facilities. not whole msia, so luaskan minda and see from different angle b4 even shoot shoot shoot.
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post Dec 8 2025, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Dec 8 2025, 08:41 AM)
I been to countries where people can go around without car

1. Extensive rail system
2. Well planned side walk (🚶 in town planning)
3. Concentrated downtown offices
4. Reliable bus service
5. Weather suitable for outdoor walk

Malaysia failed 5/5 therefore people still partially need car/bike to travel.

To give context:

1. Msia only has 4 reliable transport rail (KTM commuters and monorail are rubbish), circle line coming up. As compared to other cosmopolitan city, probably at least 10.

2. Msia side walks despite having some become motorbike parking, others have to walk on road instead, some out of sudden will block by tree / lamp post, poorly planned side walk. And our road can be hilly at some area.

3. Klang Valley has a lot of satellite cities that not easily accessible by public transport. Unlike others with a downtown, KV offices widely spread around.

4. Bus … needless to say.

5. Our weather is 27-30 degree + humid = sweat like hell if expose too long, need to shower in office / destination. Sometimes rain like hellfire …
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halo bang, yala. ur extensive view macam atas but open mind sikit., he not saying whole msia. he said near those public transport area nia. seriously u got take onot. u said buss needless to say but do u know the bus system now edi improve a lot?

3. Klang Valley has a lot of satellite cities that not easily accessible by public transport. Unlike others with a downtown, KV offices widely spread around. - unless u r a salesperson which of course need a car o else u keep moving office meh. sometimes giving out alot reasons dont show u smart but only a smart alec

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post Dec 8 2025, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(hkindaichi @ Dec 8 2025, 08:35 AM)
how much lower without parking space? hello minister, this is capitalism country, no such thing as lower price la.
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Frankly, property prices are demand driven. How much is your house worth? Will you take the value from your yearly assessment tax? Or will you say something like "fuiyooh, our neighbor's house a few doors down sold for 3M", and suddenly the asking price for ALL the houses in that area magically goes up to that region?

If you have a condo in that same area offering 2 parking bays, and another condo offering 0 parking bays with an option to add 1, will you buy the condo with 0 parking bays if the prices are the same? Most likely not, right? We have a glut of condos, if prices are unreasonable, they just stay empty. Nobody can force you to buy.

Edit: to answer your question directly, I don't know. But I am hoping for at least a 10% lower price.

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post Dec 8 2025, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(hkindaichi @ Dec 8 2025, 08:35 AM)
how much lower without parking space? hello minister, this is capitalism country, no such thing as lower price la.
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Eventually parking spaces will be a ‘selling point’ for all condominium…. 😂😂😂😂
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post Dec 8 2025, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Dec 8 2025, 08:41 AM)
I been to countries where people can go around without car

1. Extensive rail system
2. Well planned side walk (🚶 in town planning)
3. Concentrated downtown offices
4. Reliable bus service
5. Weather suitable for outdoor walk

Malaysia failed 5/5 therefore people still partially need car/bike to travel.

To give context:

1. Msia only has 4 reliable transport rail (KTM commuters and monorail are rubbish), circle line coming up. As compared to other cosmopolitan city, probably at least 10.

2. Msia side walks despite having some become motorbike parking, others have to walk on road instead, some out of sudden will block by tree / lamp post, poorly planned side walk. And our road can be hilly at some area.

3. Klang Valley has a lot of satellite cities that not easily accessible by public transport. Unlike others with a downtown, KV offices widely spread around.

4. Bus … needless to say.

5. Our weather is 27-30 degree + humid = sweat like hell if expose too long, need to shower in office / destination. Sometimes rain like hellfire …
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Sounds like shitty town planning by.............politicians. Not planners.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 8 2025, 01:18 AM)
I think I have a different perspective because I am older than many of you guys here. I am not like Atok, most likely I won't be able to continue driving forever. So yeah, a car is just a car, not really that attached to it. I will be happy if food, and some shopping is within walking distance. You guys need to consider school, work, etc.

There are people who really need their own cars, think families with school going children or if the workplace is far from any public transport terminal. This might not be suitable for them. If you already own a car, why insist on staying somewhere near public transport where the prices are likely higher?

But there are also those, who go to work at a place close to these public transport terminals, come back home and sleep nearly every day. For these guys, maybe they can get by with public transport with an occasional grab ride. For them, there is going to be significant financial benefits from NOT owning a car. Add it together with 10-20k cheaper housing, and I can see why Loke thinks this is a good idea.
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thats y lo. those that suddenly rant so loud here dont tink out the box. not everyone need to go out clubbing and drink everynight. even that now ppl take grab. like me i just go work come home sleep. if ok i aso dunwan touch my cars. too many stupid driving the road. all thinking themselves is daytona drivers.
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QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 8 2025, 08:55 AM)
halo bang, yala. ur extensive view macam atas but open mind sikit., he not saying whole msia. he said near those public transport area nia. seriously u got take onot. u said buss needless to say but do u know the bus system now edi improve a lot?
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Ppl duduk near public transport = work or destination near public transport or accessible via public transport ka ?

I duduk pj wanna go 1u duduk public transport 1jam. Driving 10min.
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post Dec 8 2025, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(veiven @ Dec 8 2025, 08:58 AM)
Ppl duduk near public transport = work or destination near public transport or accessible via public transport ka ?

I duduk pj wanna go 1u duduk public transport 1jam. Driving 10min.
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Then it is not suitable for you. It might also not be suitable if you have kids who need to go to school or after class activities. But there are people who do work near public transportation terminals. Especially for singles, this is something to consider.

How much of your monthly paycheck goes towards your car?
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QUOTE(veiven @ Dec 8 2025, 08:58 AM)
Ppl duduk near public transport = work or destination near public transport or accessible via public transport ka ?

I duduk pj wanna go 1u duduk public transport 1jam. Driving 10min.
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u cant compare like tat boss. so u expect taking public transport is 10 mins aso? even in spore theres time difference la. if take public transport means u got to plan ur time la. if wan fast then take grab. u those that even drunk die die must drive one. can see from ur replies. learn to plan, patient and u dont live in so much anger.
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post Dec 8 2025, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 8 2025, 09:02 AM)
Then it is not suitable for you. It might also not be suitable if you have kids who need to go to school or after class activities. But there are people who do work near public transportation terminals. Especially for singles, this is something to consider.

How much of your monthly paycheck goes towards your car?
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My car is fully paid off.

QUOTE(Femsroot @ Dec 8 2025, 09:02 AM)
u cant compare like tat boss. so u expect taking public transport is 10 mins aso? even in spore theres time difference la. if take public transport means u got to plan ur time la. if wan fast then take grab. u those that even drunk die die must drive one. can see from ur replies. learn to plan, patient and u dont live in so much anger.
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Sorry to say, I don't even drink. No idea where did you even get that assumption from. I myself do take public transport occasionally especially to bukit bintang area, or otherwise whenever convenient.

So, you think spending 1 hour just to get to 1u while the journey takes 10 min is viable ? I have to transit from LRT KJ to MRT just to get to 1u, so, you would do that eh ?
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post Dec 8 2025, 09:13 AM

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last week my fam went to bukit jalil for sporting event. There are 4 of us. Because malas wanna cari parking, we took LRT. From BK5 to Bukit Jalil, RM2.50. 4 of us, is already RM10. both way already RM20. Took about 15min to reach.

Next day I drive, parking only RM3. Took 5min to reach.

So how?

Want to lessen the car, senang je. remove subsidy all together. See berani or not.
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QUOTE(veiven @ Dec 8 2025, 09:13 AM)
My car is fully paid off.
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So, how much did you pay for it? Wouldn't it be nice to have that cash lying around somewhere?

Do a rough comparison over your years of ownership, how many grab rides would that car have supported?
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 8 2025, 09:14 AM)
So, how much did you pay for it? Wouldn't it be nice to have that cash lying around somewhere?

Do a rough comparison over your years of ownership, how many grab rides would that car have supported?
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Well, sad to say, my car wasn't my choice. The only car i really bought for myself is kancil MYR 4.5k.

Grab rides ? Oh please, did you even check the cost of grab ride these days ? Not to mention the countless of trips I had going to other states. Car rental ka ?
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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Dec 8 2025, 09:13 AM)
last week my fam went to bukit jalil for sporting event. There are 4 of us. Because malas wanna cari parking, we took LRT. From BK5 to Bukit Jalil, RM2.50. 4 of us, is already RM10. both way already RM20. Took about 15min to reach.

Next day I drive, parking only RM3. Took 5min to reach.

So how?

Want to lessen the car, senang je. remove subsidy all together. See berani or not.
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Roadtax, maintenance, tyres, insurance etc.

You said it yourself "malas wanna cari parking". It isn't just endless driving on a clear scenic highway on a beautiful day, it is also traffic jams, floods and yes, fighting for parking space.
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QUOTE(veiven @ Dec 8 2025, 09:17 AM)
Well, sad to say, my car wasn't my choice. The only car i really bought for myself is kancil MYR 4.5k.

Grab rides ? Oh please, did you even check the cost of grab ride these days ? Not to mention the countless of trips I had going to other states. Car rental ka ?
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You didn't really answer my question, so I will do it for you if you don't mind.

The cheapest Axia Rahmah costs about 22k. I will forgo all the other stuff. Assume you own it for 5 years. That comes to about 4400 per year. Let's round it up to 4800 or 400 per month. Assuming an average of 100 per grab ride, you can go for ~1 grab ride every week. Is that so bad?

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