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lopo90
post Dec 6 2025, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(ecrl @ Dec 6 2025, 12:24 PM)
This is me during school and college. I can mental calculated probably half of mathematical equation in SPM in head and write down the answer.

It comes naturally to me without study much. I keluar dewan after 30 minutes yet still can get 80-90 marks above in advance math.

But I'm not good in arguing and communicating so my life is okay okay only haha. My life not bad, but if someone guide in in choosing career after SPM it should be much better.
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Ya a lot of people are book smart. But lack communication skills big time.



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post Dec 6 2025, 01:02 PM

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post Dec 6 2025, 01:39 PM

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exam is about memorizing shit, not a real measure of someone's capability at work
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QUOTE(ecrl @ Dec 6 2025, 12:24 PM)
This is me during school and college. I can mental calculated probably half of mathematical equation in SPM in head and write down the answer.

It comes naturally to me without study much. I keluar dewan after 30 minutes yet still can get 80-90 marks above in advance math.

But I'm not good in arguing and communicating so my life is okay okay only haha. My life not bad, but if someone guide in in choosing career after SPM it should be much better.
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I have always felt SPM maths and add maths were never challenging at all. Too simple.

Not saying I'm good at maths but to me it's just logical. You just have to solve the questions logically. However, I never knew why did we learn them for? Pretty much useless or so, that's what I felt. But after knowing why or how we use them in our daily life, everything kinda make sense.

So basically, our education sucks, just tell us to solve the equation but didn't explain why we use them. For example, stats and matrix.
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post Dec 6 2025, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(trendey222 @ Dec 6 2025, 10:31 AM)
Then the exam is flawed. It fails to measure real talents.

Anyone can memorize and give answers examiners want without understanding what the answer really mean and how to solve it if the problem really comes in real life.

I can just do past year questions and commonly come out questions and memorize the right answer keywords to those questions and then write them out during exams when similar questions came out.

And I have no idea why the answers are the answers and why they are correct in the first place.

That means I'm not smart at all. I have just found the way to play the game and tactics to win it.

Same as someone who can solve the rubick cube using formula vs someone who found out how to solve the cube logically through understanding

The first one can solve within minutes and perfectly but no idea what he had just spinned. The second one knows exactly why he made the move every single time to get it solved
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Exam has it merits. It's the simplest way to measure something quantitatively. Unfortunately, they are generalized, so it measures a general consensus but do not highlight a person's talent. Everyone is different. Some are better at solving problems, some are better at language. Some would come out with their own way of solving the problem with logic, but exam needs to show how the answers are derived exactly as taught in class.


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post Dec 6 2025, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(trendey222 @ Dec 6 2025, 10:31 AM)
Then the exam is flawed. It fails to measure real talents.

Anyone can memorize and give answers examiners want without understanding what the answer really mean and how to solve it if the problem really comes in real life.

I can just do past year questions and commonly come out questions and memorize the right answer keywords to those questions and then write them out during exams when similar questions came out.

And I have no idea why the answers are the answers and why they are correct in the first place.

That means I'm not smart at all. I have just found the way to play the game and tactics to win it.

Same as someone who can solve the rubick cube using formula vs someone who found out how to solve the cube logically through understanding

The first one can solve within minutes and perfectly but no idea what he had just spinned. The second one knows exactly why he made the move every single time to get it solved
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That's why Malaysia have many A scorers but not created any Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Besoz, Bill Gate, Steve Job.
That's also the reason we abolished UPSR and PMR. However, our education still not improving. I can't blame new government as changes need time and I also no idea how to improve it if I were the minister.
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post Dec 7 2025, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(trendey222 @ Dec 6 2025, 10:24 AM)
Yeah exactly. Those who excel at standardized test or inspections mostly memorized or found out the tactics to write keywords to answer questions to gain marks from examiners. Not necessarily because they know how to solve the problems,or understand what they are answering.

But I still wonder, since the smart guy understand things and can think critically to solve problems, why they don't managed to answer the questions well during tests or exams. Is it because of time pressure or they don't use tactics like the correct keywords to answer questions or use their own answers that makes examiners think "you don't write what I want to see, so I can't give you marks"

If this is the case, the test is flawed. It fails to measure talent
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There are many ways to solve a problem, the solution givens are just not the standard answer the examiner wants. Marks only given if follow the books

 

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