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post Dec 5 2025, 04:01 PM, updated 3d ago

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After 9 years lease ended , do i need to continue paying for another fresh new 9 year lease ?

No. You can drive as usual and pay nothing on battery lease after 9 years.

You have a choice for new 9 years lease if you need a new battery replacement.



What happens if the battery fails at year 12 and the 9 years lease ended 3 years ago without extending it ?

You can return to Perodua at anytime for new 9 years lease whenever you need a new battery replacement.



Do i need to restart another new 9 years lease , if the battery fails and got replaced within the 9 years lease ?

No. Original lease term resumes for battery replaced under warranty claim.

New 9 years lease required for battery replaced under user's fault or terms violation , eg. accident damage / ride-hailing.



If i sold the car at year 5 , do i still need to pay the balance of lease for remaining 4 years ?

No. The new owner / buyer will takeover the lease.



If i sold the car after 9 years lease ended without extending it , does buyer have to enter new 9 years lease just to buy the car ?

No. New owner can drive as usual and pay nothing on battery lease if there isn't one.

They have a choice for new 9 years lease if they need a new battery replacement.



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so how many sold so far???
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Basically, if they need a battery, need to pay the lease. It is like a 9 year installment plan.
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Why not asking either can use 3rd parties battery after 9y ended.
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If I sell my 5 years old car, the new owner need to continue the remaining 4 years battery lease or need to start a new 9 years lease?
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:09 PM

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I dont have problem with this if the car price is 50k but the problem is the car is priced at 80k + this 32k shitty battery plan
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Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?

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do you plan to extend leasing plan for other features of the car in the future ?

eg, lease on tyres ... cap on top speed / if pay lease no cap ? etc
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 5 2025, 04:01 PM)
After 9 years lease ended , do i need to continue paying for another fresh new 9 year lease ?

No. You can drive as usual and pay nothing on battery lease after 9 years.

You have a choice for new 9 years lease if you need a new battery replacement.
What happens if the battery fails at year 12 and the 9 years lease ended 3 years ago without extending it ?

You can return to Perodua at anytime for new 9 years lease whenever you need a new battery replacement.
Do i need to restart another new 9 years lease , if the battery fails and got replaced within the 9 years lease ?

No. Original lease term resumes for battery replaced under warranty claim.

New 9 years lease required for battery replaced under user's fault or terms violation , eg. accident damage / ride-hailing.
If i sold the car at year 5 , do i still need to pay the balance of lease for remaining 4 years ?

No. The new owner / buyer will takeover the lease.
If i sold the car after 9 years lease ended without extending it , does buyer have to enter new 9 years lease just to buy the car ?

No. New owner can drive as usual and pay nothing on battery lease if there isn't one.

They have a choice for new 9 years lease if they need a new battery replacement.
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Did they u-turn? Why he mention ride hailing when P2 listed e-hailing as one criteria which would void the warranty.
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paying more than RM100k for a perodua.. how crazy is this
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maybe we wait some " diy " itself a battery -- just like how the clone copy perform ? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:08 PM)
If I sell my 5 years old car, the new owner need to continue the remaining 4 years battery lease or need to start a new 9 years lease?
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Remaining 4 years. The whole point of this is for buyer to pay the battery price instead of p2, so p2 is earning big bucks for it. On surface, its claim to protect rv. But in actual, buyer is paying the battery upfront. Hence when need to change the battery, a new 9 years is needed, cos well, buyer need to buy the battery.

I believe this is 1 of the risk mitigation for p2 incase their ev cant sell much. At least they already slaughter the current buyer 30k for battery.
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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I think they probably will extend the leasing period.

For example:
Start Date = 1 Jan 2026 (Lease End date = 31 Dec 2034)
Sold Date = 31 Dec 2026 (8 years balance remaining)
New Owner Start Date = 1 Jul 2026 (New Lease End Date = 1 Jun 2026 + 8 Years = 30 Jun 2035)


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kaki ev tak kisah semua ni
mereka pun sanggup bayar byd atto 100k

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:22 PM)
Remaining 4 years. The whole point of this is for buyer to pay the battery price instead of p2, so p2 is earning big bucks for it. On surface, its claim to protect rv. But in actual, buyer is paying the battery upfront. Hence when need to change the battery, a new 9 years is needed, cos well, buyer need to buy the battery.

I believe this is 1 of the risk mitigation for p2 incase their ev cant sell much. At least they already slaughter the current buyer 30k for battery.
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basically the battery price never depreciates... not sure if got people buy used QV-E or not. Coz normally ppl buy used car because it is cheaper. If it is same price as new (for the battery), doubt people will buy it.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:25 PM)
basically the battery price never depreciates... not sure if got people buy used QV-E or not. Coz normally ppl buy used car because it is cheaper. If it is same price as new (for the battery), doubt people will buy it.
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Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:29 PM)
Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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yup plus u need to maintain service by P2 during all this time or the warranty/lease void.
btw nobody know for sure new tech will supersede the old tech battery.
Will P2 use new battery tech to replace when the time come or still install old tech or worse, recon whatever stock left to replace the battery?
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worrying part is, they change the t&c for 'clarification'
which means, later they can also change any part of the t&c
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post Dec 5 2025, 04:41 PM

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if 9 years later thy still give the old battery tech

thn those ppl who bought the car really kena scammed kao kao
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If they do lease, they should replace battery if it drops 10% in range or battery capacity. simple as that.

otherwise, just sell the battery and car together, and just let the normal warranty cover ... which is going to be 80% anyway with all the other EV brands.

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Dec 5 2025, 04:09 PM)
I dont have problem with this if the car price is 50k but the problem is the car is priced at 80k + this 32k shitty battery plan
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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You can only sell to perodua POV not to outside dealer... so this is not in question anymore
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This is what happens when u tongkat them
Open the car market already stop giving tongkat

The CEOs dont even buy this junk for their family
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so to replace the battery after the "lease" is over, have to start the 9 year lease again, pretty steep for those shopping at 80k price point and then kena pay 30k on top for lease

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this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.



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Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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QUOTE(skywardsword @ Dec 5 2025, 04:51 PM)
If they do lease, they should replace battery if it drops 10% in range or battery capacity. simple as that.

otherwise, just sell the battery and car together, and just let the normal warranty cover ... which is going to be 80% anyway with all the other EV brands.
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actually they just warranty you the battery for 9 years + change new battery at 70%.

you still own the battery after you finish pay the installment loan of the battery.
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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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after 9 years, that car is a junk museum car already, now tech improve toooo fast.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:08 PM)
If I sell my 5 years old car, the new owner need to continue the remaining 4 years battery lease or need to start a new 9 years lease?
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No, if the offer still is wat it is. You can only sell your car back to Perodua.

What happen after that has nothing to do with you.
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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This situation will not happen, you can only sold the car back to perdoua. So it will be bought back immediately. after that you are not even in the picture.

But if anyone wanna buy a 2nd QVE, he most likely will have to pay car price + 9 years lease battery again.

PS. that is not soalan susah. Just a non existing question.

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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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I can frankly tell u, outside punya 2nd hand car dealer sure don't dare to buy this car since there is no indication of market value, most likely owner has to sell back to Perodua POV.

As for your 2nd question, the 3 months is advance payment, your total payment shall not exceed 9 years or 108 installment payment.

QUOTE(ry8128 @ Dec 5 2025, 04:29 PM)
Thats why i say p2 is slaughtering the current buyers. Now, assuming the battery price is 30k. 5 years down the road (no need wait 9 years), i doubt will it worth 3k or not, since ev battery technology is constantly changing, much more faster than phone.

Its like now u buying ip17 for 5k. Then 5 years later, they force u to buy the same ip17 for 5k also, when in fact ip22 already release that time and most likely around 5k price too.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.
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I see the only problem is interior space, the motor actually comparable to emas 7 and its battery size too. If you just compare platform it should be worth rm110k
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:04 PM)
after 9 years, that car is a junk museum car already, now tech improve toooo fast.
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My Yellow Kelisa still roaming around being a grocery car after 20yrs.
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Failed products, DOA. Good luck making it rental battery games, no one is buying
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QUOTE(dexeric @ Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM)
I see the only problem is interior space, the motor actually comparable to emas 7 and its battery size too. If you just compare platform it should be worth rm110k
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then actually very worth it, if the car same as emas7.
imagine you don't need to worry about the battery quality and insurance.
loan also lower., just that is 70% and not 80%.

QUOTE(karazure @ Dec 5 2025, 05:11 PM)
My Yellow Kelisa still roaming around being a grocery car after 20yrs.
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after china join the game, car tech is like x10 faster.

last time, japan car, every few years only 1 face lift and 10 years only have some new feature.

now china car, every year new feature and face lift.
is like x10 the speed.

so ready to have a ancient car after 10 years.
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seriously topkek way to complicate things….

and apa salahan buat ehailing? idiots….
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QUOTE(fluotone @ Dec 5 2025, 05:15 PM)
seriously topkek way to complicate things….

and apa salahan buat ehailing? idiots….
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battery gg fast,.

maybe 5 years? gg already
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:14 PM)
so ready to have a ancient car after 10 years.
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For EV yes, but for good old petrol car... nope.

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.
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the battery you don't own it even after 9 years. You just stop paying to use it.
It P2 that own it. You cannot sell without P2 approval and carry to new owner
Will there be charges to do that, u can guess it? whistling.gif


QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
Actually, after more than 9 years, even though technology has improved, manufacturers will keep increasing prices instead of reducing them — especially for batteries.

You can see the same trend with solar PV. Last time, when installation costs were very high, it was around RM10k per kWp, and now it has dropped to about RM4k per kWp on average. After so many years, the price should have gone down even further.

But no — TNB reduced the NEM duration from 20 years to 10 years. At the same time, manufacturers are not lowering prices anymore. Instead, we see more “enhancements” like micro-inverters and better panels, and the pricing has basically saturated.

And just when the price should drop again, battery storage systems come in — mainly to counter the new NEM policy — and suddenly the cost shoots up to around RM50k from the RM25k avg for residential.

So anyone claiming that battery technology improvements will eventually make prices go down is being too naive. It won’t happen. Manufacturers will make sure the pricing stays where they want it, no matter what.
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Like you said, let say now you paying and buying at 10K per kWp with guarantee replacement in 9 years. Let say u need replacement at 9 years, will u willing to pay 10k per kWp again or current price 4k per kWp for the same item? If replace with new tech, then maybe it worth since new tech maybe worth 10k per kWp but there is no written P2 will do it. Will u dare to take the deal and find out 9 years later?

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People don't understand that ICE tech is already matured and you don't need advance innovations compared to previous times.

While EV is still considered a new tech and car maker will keep continuing in improving the battery tech.

In the next 9 years, I'm sure there will be a huge improvement made by BYD or Tesla or other EV makers.

Are you okay with paying 9 years of battery instalment for outdated tech?

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what happen if didnt repay the battery? is it just take the battery away? or tow the car? what is left? can i reinstall the batt later? yes - at what cost?
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with terms like these, let see perodua can survive until 9th year / 2034

not even sure CEO still there or not
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QUOTE(buraqdunia @ Dec 5 2025, 04:06 PM)
Why not asking either can use 3rd parties battery after 9y ended.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:23 PM)
I think they probably will extend the leasing period.

For example:
Start Date = 1 Jan 2026 (Lease End date = 31 Dec 2034)
Sold Date = 31 Dec 2026 (8 years balance remaining)
New Owner Start Date = 1 Jul 2026 (New Lease End Date = 1 Jun 2026 + 8 Years = 30 Jun 2035)
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if like this they rugi teruk lo.

everyone get extended battery warranty period rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:14 PM)
80k+30k

baik beli vios
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110k

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Sound like they give u 9 years battery warranty. laugh.gif
Might as well jual je RM110k then battery cost replacement is RM30k. If needed then bayar instalment.

Mau jaga air muka jual RM80k. Ceh.

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QUOTE(spectrum17 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:28 PM)
what happen if didnt repay the battery? is it just take the battery away? or tow the car? what is left? can i reinstall the batt later? yes - at what cost?
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:20 PM)
the battery you don't own it even after 9 years. You just stop paying to use it.
It P2 that own it. You cannot sell without P2 approval and carry to new owner
Will there be charges to do that, u can guess it?  whistling.gif
Like you said, let say now you paying and buying at 10K per kWp with guarantee replacement in 9 years. Let say u need replacement at 9 years, will u willing to pay 10k per kWp again or current price 4k per kWp for the same item? If replace with new tech, then maybe it worth since new tech maybe worth 10k per kWp but there is no written P2 will do it. Will u dare to take the deal and find out 9 years later?
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you got the point also, you don't really own it,
in the end u still need to give back to P2.
new owner can continue use it if don't mind degraded or he can sign new plan and change new battery.
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perodua just introduce unnecessary steps to owning a car.

ppl just want to buy the car and pay monthly payment. no need for separate payment for battery, only can sell to perodua, tied to 9 year battery lease,
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.
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Please tell me you aren't joking. Car without engine worth it ma?
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Dec 5 2025, 04:15 PM)
Why no one asked soalan susah.

If i sold the car on year 2, and the battery lease remains 7 years.
What happened if the car remains unsold of 3 months? Does the new owner have to cover 3 months backdated (battery cost) before he can take ownership? If 3 months change to 6 month? Means the battery extension carry forward from 9 year to 9yr+3month / 9yr+6Month?
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Good question.
If you think after 2year resell value still great???
You will be surprise...
Most probable more than 50% drop due to double whammy
And the worst.....
after 9years complete car loan repayment.....it may left no more than 5k~10k value where there will be less or little to no market as nobody going to pay 40k++ with a new battery leasing
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so much hassle just to buy a car
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So basically it's just a 110k car la. If u take 9 years loan then pay 9 years installment got battery then u get the car in full. Only downside now is when u sell u need to sell it back to perodua saja kah
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:14 PM)
80k+30k

baik beli vios
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 5 2025, 05:02 PM)
this is pay to own, actually very worth it if the package go this way.

is just like a car installment, it apply to battery without interest.
now question, is the car without battery worth 80k or not only.
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RM112k very worth it? laugh.gif

With that price i can buy emas 7, atto 3 or seal 6 with better range
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 5 2025, 06:00 PM)
Please tell me you aren't joking. Car without engine worth it ma?
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is without petrol, the EV still got the motor inside, whahahaha

you buy ICE also without petrol inside ma, lol

QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 5 2025, 06:06 PM)
RM112k very worth it? laugh.gif

With that price i can buy emas 7, atto 3 or seal 6 with better range
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 5 2025, 04:14 PM)
80k+30k

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LOL - baik jalan kaki -- the point is to own an EV car bukan mayat dinosour car.
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Need so many clarifications before buying a car.

If an investment /business is too complicated to understand, don't invest into it.
- Warren god of stock
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bodo perodua might as well put a 9 year lease on the whole car.
after 9yrs tukar baru....
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After 9 years even if battery go kaput your only option is to change a new one with Perodua with new 9 year lease or just scrap the car and return the battery to Perodua

Cuz u never own the battery.

So no way to even engage with external workshops even though they may have expertise to fix or replace the cells/pack

Why not just tie the whole car to lease then
Owaiii… then the car no resale value at all topkek
Can’t target the resale value angle anymore

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This actually show government got plan to implement charges to dispose EV. In future those EV not going to get rebate, instead need to fork out $$$ to sell their car
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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Dec 5 2025, 06:06 PM)
So basically it's just a 110k car la. If u take 9 years loan then pay 9 years installment got battery then u get the car in full. Only downside now is when u sell u need to sell it back to perodua saja kah
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110k with CKD EV duty exemption, so "real" price is actually like 130-150k. Such a BS pricing for cheapo plastic car, looking at the steering wheel made me puke puke.gif shakehead.gif
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Regardless

Only bodoh sheep will buy EV

ICE still superior in all aspect, esp range

Only benefit of EV is quiet

2030 ICE still outsell EV

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 5 2025, 06:24 PM)
After 9 years even if battery go kaput your only option is to change a new one with Perodua with new 9 year lease or just scrap the car and return the battery to Perodua

Cuz u never own the battery.

So no way to even engage with external workshops even though they may have expertise to fix or replace the cells/pack

Why not just tie the whole car to lease then
Owaiii… then the car no resale value at all topkek
Can’t target the resale value angle anymore
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If i pakai 5 years, mau jual to carsome/carro/other 2nd hand car dealer, sure kena lowball or tak mau accept, kena balik Perodua POV.

Then battery rosak, outside workshop dare not touch, takut kena A4 paper by Perodua, kena balik Perodua SC.

In the end QVE owner balls is squeeeze by Perodua, they buy a car which has zero freedom. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 5 2025, 03:25 PM)
basically the battery price never depreciates... not sure if got people buy used QV-E or not. Coz normally ppl buy used car because it is cheaper. If it is same price as new (for the battery), doubt people will buy it.
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high possibility that at 9 yr car value rm10k, battery rm30k!!..
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They thought they were being smart abt the pricing scheme. They didnt do market research dulu ke to gauge the sentiment.
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If find different battery supplier, can terminate lease and return battery to Perodua? Just keep the car? Who knows, maybe batteries will be half price in 5 years...
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 5 2025, 04:03 PM)
so how many sold so far???
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 5 2025, 06:28 PM)
This actually show government got plan to implement charges to dispose EV. In future those EV not going to get rebate, instead need to fork out $$$ to sell their car
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Of coz la ev for environment lover. Mana boleh suka hati disposed bateri mcm tu saja
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Most EV car on the market give 8 years battery warranty

So perodua is just extra 1 year??

Regarding the resale value it’s a supply and demand thing. I wouldn’t want to buy that has battery installment hence most likely the RV will drop
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Government should “ask” other ev companies to implement this battery leasing scheme brows.gif
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Funny answer that it is like no question answer. I just give one answer enough. You continue lease, if have warranty. New lease if you need no more warranty.
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QUOTE(Avex @ Dec 5 2025, 04:03 PM)
so how many sold so far???
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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 5 2025, 04:03 PM)
Basically, if they need a battery, need to pay the lease. It is like a 9 year installment plan.
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Just pay 100k no need puter puter.
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basically the car is price at 100k+ la....
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Dec 5 2025, 08:26 PM)
basically the car is price at 100k+ la....
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same as top spec wrv or city; not bad considering the spec. wtf are people bitching about it? demn bifoti.
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 5 2025, 05:20 PM)
the battery you don't own it even after 9 years. You just stop paying to use it.
It P2 that own it. You cannot sell without P2 approval and carry to new owner
Will there be charges to do that, u can guess it?  whistling.gif
Like you said, let say now you paying and buying at 10K per kWp with guarantee replacement in 9 years. Let say u need replacement at 9 years, will u willing to pay 10k per kWp again or current price 4k per kWp for the same item? If replace with new tech, then maybe it worth since new tech maybe worth 10k per kWp but there is no written P2 will do it. Will u dare to take the deal and find out 9 years later?
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To answer your first question, actually it’s neither one. People keep saying “after 9 years the technology should be even cheaper than RM4k per kWp,”. But the problem is we won’t get that — because the pricing is already dictated by the seller/manufacturer. So even if the real market price later is much lower, the replacement won’t follow the real market trend (not in Malaysia). When have you ever seen businesses in Malaysia lower their prices even when petrol prices fluctuate or in similar situations?

As for your second question, I also wouldn’t dare to take the deal. We’re in Malaysia — I have yet to see any consumer actually get the so-called 70% performance guarantee or panel/battery replacement honoured here (for Solar PV). On paper it sounds good, but in reality it’s mostly a marketing gimmick to make people feel there’s protection, when the chance of it being fulfilled is extremely low or NIL.
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100k for berukdua… suddenly 250k kembri doesn’t sound so expensive either
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Too risky & lop sided dead no.matter what. It's basically nothing more than those smartphone extended warranty where they say everything will.be.covered but when u try &.claim warranty. Will.give excuses like we no longer have the parts in stock to replace the damage one, etc.

Only.difference is perodua make it compulsory & on paper it sounds nice if your battery for whatever reason ko before 9 years are up.

Problem is do u trust perodua to honour the terms or come up with excuses & push the blame onto you therefore making u sign on a.new.contract?




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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 5 2025, 10:14 PM)
To answer your first question, actually it’s neither one. People keep saying “after 9 years the technology should be even cheaper than RM4k per kWp,”. But the problem is we won’t get that — because the pricing is already dictated by the seller/manufacturer. So even if the real market price later is much lower, the replacement won’t follow the real market trend (not in Malaysia). When have you ever seen businesses in Malaysia lower their prices even when petrol prices fluctuate or in similar situations?

As for your second question, I also wouldn’t dare to take the deal. We’re in Malaysia — I have yet to see any consumer actually get the so-called 70% performance guarantee or panel/battery replacement honoured here (for Solar PV). On paper it sounds good, but in reality it’s mostly a marketing gimmick to make people feel there’s protection, when the chance of it being fulfilled is extremely low or NIL.
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Like gearbox and engine warranty, SC will diedie taichi until warranty over
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dead in the water... malaysia price sensitive why pay 100k when proton ev is so much cheaper?
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Like Microsoft and Adobe and many others, P2 seems to be going the subscription route for constant moneyflow back to them even after purchasing.
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QUOTE(NotAnotherNick @ Dec 6 2025, 06:33 AM)
dead in the water... malaysia price sensitive why pay 100k when proton ev is so much cheaper?
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So this is how Perodua killed themselves. The moment the Japanese stepped out of one product, they screwed it up!
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Benda senang, kito kasi susahkan.

Battery Bakar, burned the car as well. Insurance claim siapa?
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QUOTE(Moderna @ Dec 6 2025, 06:55 AM)
So this is how Perodua killed themselves. The moment the Japanese stepped out of one product, they screwed it up!
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It is ok, their other ICE cars still have customers waiting for months.
P2 still outsell the nearest competitor 3 to 1.
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Basically pattern is u have mortgage on car and also lease on battery

They want to ensure continuous stream of income and make b40 slave to them


What if battery no stock? Lel we know this will definitely happen 1001%
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QUOTE(NotAnotherNick @ Dec 6 2025, 06:33 AM)
dead in the water... malaysia price sensitive why pay 100k when proton ev is so much cheaper?
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LoL. It's easy answer. Gomen & people keep advise and telling people all over "Do Not Get Scam". In the end, still many people get scammed every year losing multi million. This is how the people like MY think, follow the sheep even though they jump from mountain. LoL

Car is all the same, just people don't know how to drive. The car is bought by them and later complaining wrongly buying it. People really stupid telling people in the world they wrongly bought a car which is their own fault. Just don't get scam...
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QUOTE(KingArthurVI @ Dec 5 2025, 06:30 PM)
110k with CKD EV duty exemption, so "real" price is actually like 130-150k. Such a BS pricing for cheapo plastic car, looking at the steering wheel made me puke puke.gif  shakehead.gif
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Conti-level Perodua...
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if battery explode will perodua pay me back 9y?
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Means die die must make battery below 70% charge capacity at the 9th year to get a new replacement

Inb4 replace with second hand battery with 80% charge capacity when making claim laugh.gif.
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QUOTE(NotAnotherNick @ Dec 6 2025, 06:33 AM)
dead in the water... malaysia price sensitive why pay 100k when proton ev is so much cheaper?
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are they even comparable? emas5 looks like a clown car, + the 50k variant only has 200++ km range, top spec is 80k
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Cibai, like this also got. 😅
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