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post Yesterday, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 1 2025, 10:48 PM)
For context, the speed limit for that stretch of road is 90 kmh.

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This is exactly why average speed cameras are important.
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under ideal condition, if the highway sleep imit is 90, u should be driving on the middle.
right lane for overtaking, where left most usually for slower vehicles cuz got merging/exits, & heavy vehicles that has lower legal speed limit or just cant go that fast due to limitation.

if u're doing highway sleep limit, u hab no business being in right most lane.
lantak la the road has speed cam or not, it's none of your busines other drivers willing risk saman for overtaking due to whatever reason.
also, for average speed cam, driver may choose to go fast at the beginning, slowing down on final stretch, or stopping at R&R, & still be under the average speed overall.
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post Yesterday, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 08:31 AM)
The right lane is only for overtaking. It has nothing to do with whatever speed you are driving at. If a slowpoke overtakes another slowpoke at 50 kmh, there is nothing wrong with that. Wait until he completes the overtaking maneuver and moves back to the left lane, then move on. There is no such thing as staying in the overtaking lane just because you are moving at a certain speed.

There is no such thing as the road in front being all clear. What is important is the lane to the left, if it is clear and the guy does not move back to the left, then it is road hogging. Whatever the speed.

Speeding is a separate thing. It is very simple, you go over the speed limit, you sudah salah. As for the video, the guy is clearly showing that he is breaking the speed limit. Average speed limit cameras will hopefully stop these idiots. It is another level of bodo to floor the pedal for a stretch and then sit somewhere to wait the time out lol.
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on the contrary, there is, just not explicitly enforced.
middle lane for constant cruise speed, aka speed limit.
oncendone overtaking, u should always move back to where u belong.
driving too slow is always a safety hazard, & yes, u can be stopped &nsaman by police alao for driving too slow for putting your vehicle in a position which endangered other road users.
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post Yesterday, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 08:39 AM)
no la. are you sure you passed your drivers test? maybe it is time to take a refresher course.
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u expext doing speed limit mean u got the right to be in the right most all the time?
thought not often enforced, there are rules that say u need to move bck to left after overtaking.
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post Yesterday, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 2 2025, 08:48 AM)
so in this case, the cam car think that just by overspeeding, he could stay on right lane indefinitely
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after done over taking, he should move bck to left.
then may e encounter cars he want to overtake, repeat.
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post Yesterday, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 08:52 AM)
There are no lane specific speed limits. There is only one speed limit for one stretch of road.

The overtaking lane is for overtaking only, not for speeding at whatever speed you like. You break the speed limit, you salah.

Finish overtaking, move to the left.
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it's not lane specific speed, rather a system ensures the smooth flow of traffic.
speeding is wrong, but same goes with staying on overtaking lane when u're not overtaking.
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post Yesterday, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Dec 2 2025, 09:04 AM)
Our traffic pattern is so special. You can see Middle lane is one long line. Left and Right few car only.
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it is the correct structure.
left - slower cars meeging/exit, heavy vehicles which canr go as fast.
middle - cruise lane
right - overtaking

in the video, x70 also wrong for cruising on overtaking lane.
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post Yesterday, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Dec 2 2025, 10:55 AM)
You can only use the overtaking lane while still adhering to speed limit though.
The right lane is for overtaking. Not speeding.
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why the x70 dint fo bck to left when he done, or not even overtaking?
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post Yesterday, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Dec 2 2025, 02:05 PM)
He was going to but a lot of sohai passing him on the left.
Then got another sohai bising behind, he has to wonder what is up. I bet he's also expecting the car behind to be same sohai overtake on the left thus he waited. As you can see, he eventually went to the middle lane once he deem it safe.
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he has all the time in the world to move bck to left but he dint.
even b4 those 4x4 passed him.
also, coming to an end of overtaking, signal to the left.
cant signal cuz another case of tangan patah?
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post Yesterday, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ Dec 2 2025, 02:25 PM)
Ehem.
Had laju.

Again, most hoggers technically arent in the wrong. They can claim overtaking AND adhering to speed limit.

Blatant speeders are even more dangerous than speeders. And enablers like you make sit worse for normalising this shit.
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speeding wrong, lane hogging is literally wrong as well.
the 'keep left is if not overtaking" is not only common courtesy, but also police can saman u for hogging right lane or driving too slow.
it's just that it'a less enforced, i hav literally seem police issue lane hogging saman before.

speeding on the right lane, is not wrong depending on situation or reason.
for example, say a person speeding due to legit urgency, like rushing to hospital due to family member illness or accident, or wife in labor, etc.
maybe at that time, the speeding driver willing to take the risk & saman bcoz of that.
even if get speeding saman, 1 can choose to fo court instead, & judge can dismissed the saman if reason is legit enough.
again, i hav seen this happens before.

it's not up to road hogger to do vigilante work to make sure every1 follow speed limit.
u can capture evidence & send it to police/jpj for authorities to take action.
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post Yesterday, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 04:33 PM)
No. This is bad advice. Nearly everyone who chooses to argue (especially for speeding lol) will kena the full penalty.

Rushing to hospital because of family member accident is not a legit excuse. Who are you, the attending doctor or organ donor?

And unless your wife is pregnant everytime you get fined (lol) that isn't going to work either.
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say what u want, maybe u haven't hav an emergency before.
fyi, u also probably dint know how often judge throw out or reduce traffic saman for legit reasons.
as i said, i nvr said speeding us not wrong, in fact, i start with speeding is wrong.

people going over speed limit acknowledge they are wrong but willing to risk due to reason that might be wrong or legit.
road hoggers, doesn't even want to acknowledge they have done anything wrong.
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post Yesterday, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 05:13 PM)
If you go to court, there are only two options: admit your mistake or argue.

There is no admit but justify.
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clearly i nvr been to court.
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post Today, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 2 2025, 05:49 PM)
If you are ever in that situation, you have a choice: either admit your guilt or plead innocent.

If you admit your guilt, then you move to sentencing, then you can start all the grandfather and grandmother stories and hope for a discount. Most of the time, for this sort of traffic offence it is just admit your mistake and move on to the payment counter, pay then balik.

You may get lucky and get off lightly. Gip muka kesian, maybe magistrate will give you a discount. But trying to justify it and hoping for it to be thrown out, lol, that ain't going to happen.

If you insist you are not guilty, then the process becomes longer. They may ask you to come back later. This one is not about your grandfather or grandmother stories but more about did you commit the offence or not. Unless you have pretty strong proof that you did not do it, probably not a good idea.

edit: normal speeding cases, you do not even need to go to court. In fact, for some I think you can even do it online now, but I haven't had to try before, touch wood, lol.
https://www.kehakiman.gov.my/ms/sistem-peng...lian-sistem-epg

edit edit: sos mapren kena for henfon before
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berape kali nak cakap, since when i said speeding is not wrong?
& berape kali bak cakap again, road hogging, not moving back to left after overtaking is also an offense punishable with saman.

 

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