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 Ex-Minister urges for khalwat to be decriminalised, “It’s between them & God”

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TSdavid5343
post Dec 1 2025, 01:03 PM, updated 4w ago

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The Religious Departments in many Malaysian states have been ramping up their khalwat raids, mostly in budget hotels or private houses, following the tip-offs from the public. According to Zaid, most of the raids on khalwat cases are carried out in cheap hotels, in cars, or in public places, which are locations that are easily accessible to the poor.

Meanwhile, he said, Malays in positions such as Members of Parliament (MPs) or Ministers are rarely charged with the offence of khalwat because they can afford to rent private apartments, luxury hotels, or make more private ‘rules’.

“This makes khalwat a ‘poor man’s offence’, not because the rich don’t do it but because they don’t get caught.”

“When enforcement is fundamentally selective, it fails to meet the principle of equality before the law under Article 8 of the Federal Constitution.”


Zaid also referred to a report regarding a couple who had to go to jail for failing to pay bail of RM1,500 each as set by the Kuantan Syariah Lower Court in Pahang, recently, following charges of khalwat against them. According to Zaid, bail of RM1,500 may not be a problem for middle or upper-class families.

Zaid pointed out that it is appropriate that the offence of khalwat be decriminalised since khalwat is a personal moral issue between the individual and God, not something that should lead someone to prison.

Should this happen, the country can focus on real problems such as domestic violence, sexual abuse, and exploitation rather than controlling personal behaviour that is done voluntarily.

He explained that if khalwat laws are to encourage good morals, it can be done through education, family counselling, and community involvement, not through punishment.

“In Islam itself, the act of tajassus (spying) is prohibited, but raids on private areas often rely on intrusive spying.”
desmond2020
post Dec 1 2025, 01:05 PM

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non muslim can enjoy khalwat so it is unfair lo
MR_alien
post Dec 1 2025, 01:06 PM

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that means either they plan to do it or already doing it laugh.gif
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:06 PM

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Cannot like that la. How to justify the berbillion billion ringgit bajet later if don't do skuad skodeng/terjah anymore?
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:07 PM

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not in uncle field of expertise better no comment
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mana boleh ? jakim ambil berbillion billion setiap tahun tak kan duduk opis goyang telur

mesti keluar buat checking dan buat research ma brows.gif
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:14 PM

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ktards liberal Meleis logic be like:

"Yes, but no. But yes. Oh no, my brainnnnghhhh"
Porkycorgi5588
post Dec 1 2025, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:06 PM)
Cannot like that la. How to justify the berbillion billion ringgit bajet later if don't do skuad skodeng/terjah anymore?
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redirect the money to Halal certification la.....

go raid hotel for what?
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:30 PM

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khalwat is a personal moral issue between the individual and God - ramadhan fasting time is not between the believer and god? why many moral police in ramadhan
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:30 PM

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how come dont see them go knock door on those KL spa gay raid ?


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if everything between them and god. then need JAKIM, Religious Affairs Department, State concil relating to religion for what??
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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:21 PM)
redirect the money to Halal certification la.....

go raid hotel for what?
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what they eat is between them and god.
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:34 PM

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The dept get berbillion billion, have to do something to show lor... If wanna stop this, have to cut their budget lor
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post Dec 1 2025, 01:39 PM

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He always post in English only when it comes to issues affecting M. Dare not write in bm so that majority can see it?

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QUOTE(brkli @ Dec 1 2025, 01:32 PM)
what they eat is between them and god.
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what i eat is between Selena and her thighs...

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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:06 PM)
Cannot like that la. How to justify the berbillion billion ringgit bajet later if don't do skuad skodeng/terjah anymore?
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Can focus more on the needy


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post Dec 1 2025, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:39 PM)
He always post in English only when it comes to issues affecting M. Dare not write in bm so that majority can see it?
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because T5 Malays are bad in BM


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post Dec 1 2025, 02:03 PM

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How can? JAKIM wanna see free show mah.

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QUOTE(david5343 @ Dec 1 2025, 01:03 PM)
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The Religious Departments in many Malaysian states have been ramping up their khalwat raids, mostly in budget hotels or private houses, following the tip-offs from the public. According to Zaid, most of the raids on khalwat cases are carried out in cheap hotels, in cars, or in public places, which are locations that are easily accessible to the poor.

Meanwhile, he said, Malays in positions such as Members of Parliament (MPs) or Ministers are rarely charged with the offence of khalwat because they can afford to rent private apartments, luxury hotels, or make more private ‘rules’.

“This makes khalwat a ‘poor man’s offence’, not because the rich don’t do it but because they don’t get caught.”

“When enforcement is fundamentally selective, it fails to meet the principle of equality before the law under Article 8 of the Federal Constitution.”


Zaid also referred to a report regarding a couple who had to go to jail for failing to pay bail of RM1,500 each as set by the Kuantan Syariah Lower Court in Pahang, recently, following charges of khalwat against them. According to Zaid, bail of RM1,500 may not be a problem for middle or upper-class families.

Zaid pointed out that it is appropriate that the offence of khalwat be decriminalised since khalwat is a personal moral issue between the individual and God, not something that should lead someone to prison.

Should this happen, the country can focus on real problems such as domestic violence, sexual abuse, and exploitation rather than controlling personal behaviour that is done voluntarily.

He explained that if khalwat laws are to encourage good morals, it can be done through education, family counselling, and community involvement, not through punishment.

“In Islam itself, the act of tajassus (spying) is prohibited, but raids on private areas often rely on intrusive spying.”
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khalwat raids will get discontinued at some point because as Zaid pointed out, it is against islamic teachings. only a matter of time.
Islam doesnt allow people to look for other people's sins.
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post Dec 1 2025, 02:55 PM

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refer to recent jedi light saber fighting raid?

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