depends too.

still many wearing slim jeans at my work place.
but when jalan2, will wear loose.

usually the low quality is the 511. very vary in quality.
some like shit, some ok.
some even worn for 6-7 years no prob. some 1 year koyak.

i'd stick to 501 and 502 and recently plenty of 505.

so far never spend more than 350 yet for a pair.