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dattebayo
post Dec 1 2025, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Nov 30 2025, 05:08 PM)
The netting and styrofoams were first to burn, but the bamboo is the one that sustained the fire. Of course bamboo harder to burn, but when it burns it burns long time causing fire to spread. Its hollow structure can also allow fire and heat to travel along the poles, spreading the fire vertically and horizontally.

Stupiak hongkies still defending their bamboo culture.
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ni another typical CCP trying to spin narrative

let me ask you

if the netting used met the firesafety needs,

would the fire even happen in the first place?

HK has been using bamboo for more than 100 years

how many fires had it caused so far?

not saying bamboo is superior or steel is superior, but because of this incident, suddenly want all 100% constructions to use steel? bia betul

the root cause also cant 100% be identified, now starting to blame bamboo

fwiw, in Msia rural kampung areas, ppl also use bamboo as scaffolding, so did it burn?
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post Dec 1 2025, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kenny B @ Nov 30 2025, 03:38 PM)
our bamboo different from theirs? how come lemang not burnt
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 1 2025, 11:22 AM)
ni another typical CCP trying to spin narrative

let me ask you

if the netting used met the firesafety needs,

would the fire even happen in the first place?

HK has been using bamboo for more than 100 years

how many fires had it caused so far?

not saying bamboo is superior or steel is superior, but because of this incident, suddenly want all 100% constructions to use steel? bia betul

the root cause also cant 100% be identified, now starting to blame bamboo

fwiw, in Msia rural kampung areas, ppl also use bamboo as scaffolding, so did it burn?
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Msia OK jah use steel. Why not tell dosh and cidb change to bamboo?
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post Dec 1 2025, 11:33 AM

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and also if you are chinese and know the history of firecracker, ancient chinese burn bamboo to chase ghost, the burning of bamboo with fire will explode and make the cracking sound. also 1 of the reason the building fire can spread because the bamboo burn and explode then the fire jump to another building.

for those chinese that dont understand how bamboo can burn, come on la stop pretending you are chinese

“炮竹”一词源于古人燃烧竹子来驱邪避鬼。竹子的空腔在高温下会发出噼啪的爆裂声,因此得名“爆竹”或“炮竹”。后来,随着火药的发明,“爆竹”的制造材料从竹子变成了纸筒,但沿用了“爆竹”的叫法,并逐渐演变为今天的鞭炮
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post Dec 1 2025, 11:34 AM

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lol shift blame to manufacturer when the contractor the one that use the material?
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post Dec 1 2025, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 30 2025, 01:01 PM)
donnie yen married a stupid
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seriously, she have a good point.
who ate lemang before and see how it is made?
the bamboo was not the cause of the fire. its not easily burn.
the Scaffolding fall is because the string to ikat the scaffolding gave way due to the fire.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 30 2025, 01:00 PM)
only in 2025, speaking the truth need to apologized

exposing the truth gets raided by special forces
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but it's not the fault of mesh net provider also.
contractor should have order & use fire retardant net, but they cheap out.

bamboo also plays a big role.
standard mesh net burns & drip, but the material actually burns out very fast.
kinda like burning a plastic straw, it carries the fire, drips, but burn out very quickly.
bamboo van burn for long time, keeps burning even when it becomes bamboo charcoal.
the hollow nature of bamboo also allows it to suck fresh oxygen from opening to further fuel the fire.
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post Dec 1 2025, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Dec 1 2025, 11:33 AM)
and also if you are chinese and know the history of firecracker, ancient chinese burn bamboo to chase ghost, the burning of bamboo with fire will explode and make the cracking sound. also 1 of the reason the building fire can spread because the bamboo burn and explode then the fire jump to another building.

for those chinese that dont understand how bamboo can burn, come on la stop pretending you are chinese

“炮竹”一词源于古人燃烧竹子来驱邪避鬼。竹子的空腔在高温下会发出噼啪的爆裂声,因此得名“爆竹”或“炮竹”。后来,随着火药的发明,“爆竹”的制造材料从竹子变成了纸筒,但沿用了“爆竹”的叫法,并逐渐演变为今天的鞭炮
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the bamboos are treated

Bamboo Chemical Injection (Fire-Retardant Treatment)
• Fresh bamboo poles are placed inside a sealed pressure chamber
• Vacuum is applied to remove air inside bamboo pores
• Fire-retardant chemical solution (borax, boric acid, ammonium salts) is added
• High pressure is applied to force chemicals deep into the bamboo fibers
• Treatment reaches the internal cellular structure
• Bamboo is then removed, dried, and cured
• Result: long-lasting internal fire-retardant protection
• Much more durable than soaking or spraying
• Protection remains even after rain and long outdoor exposure


but why wumaos never blame the first culprit - the safety net and foam

given steel scaffolding under high temperatures

it will become like this



if the steel were used instead of bamboo, firemen and crowds in the street would be dead by the crushing steel fell onto them

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Dec 1 2025, 11:50 AM
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post Dec 1 2025, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 1 2025, 11:47 AM)
the bamboos are treated

Bamboo Chemical Injection (Fire-Retardant Treatment)
• Fresh bamboo poles are placed inside a sealed pressure chamber
• Vacuum is applied to remove air inside bamboo pores
• Fire-retardant chemical solution (borax, boric acid, ammonium salts) is added
• High pressure is applied to force chemicals deep into the bamboo fibers
• Treatment reaches the internal cellular structure
• Bamboo is then removed, dried, and cured
• Result: long-lasting internal fire-retardant protection
• Much more durable than soaking or spraying
• Protection remains even after rain and long outdoor exposure
but why wumaos never blame the first culprit - the safety net and foam

given steel scaffolding under high temperatures

it will become like this



if the steel were used instead of bamboo, firemen and crowds in the street would be dead by the crushing steel fell onto them
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https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c3w7e2p48l7o

look at the video. you can see on the right hand side, the safety netting just melts away within secs, which is what a flame retardant/approved safety netting does.

still the main culprit is the foam that they use to cover the window.




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post Dec 1 2025, 12:09 PM

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ccp ma, what do you expect LOL, if ccp listen to the truth, covid may not be that bad :X
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post Dec 1 2025, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Dec 1 2025, 12:07 PM)
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c3w7e2p48l7o

look at the video. you can see on the right hand side, the safety netting just melts away within secs, which is what a flame retardant/approved safety netting does.

still the main culprit is the foam that they use to cover the window.
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That's not fire retardant man
That's akin to casting fire onto clothes dipped with petrol

The burning of foam did emit toxic gases and CO which did suffocate the victims

This post has been edited by dattebayo: Dec 1 2025, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 1 2025, 11:22 AM)
ni another typical CCP trying to spin narrative

let me ask you

if the netting used met the firesafety needs,

would the fire even happen in the first place?

HK has been using bamboo for more than 100 years

how many fires had it caused so far?

not saying bamboo is superior or steel is superior, but because of this incident, suddenly want all 100% constructions to use steel? bia betul

the root cause also cant 100% be identified, now starting to blame bamboo

fwiw, in Msia rural kampung areas, ppl also use bamboo as scaffolding, so did it burn?
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Wow, anybody who disagrees with your narrative is automatically labelled CCP? mega_shok.gif

I already said, the netting and styrofoam is the first to burn, so of course if these were not there, or if the netting used correct specifications, the fire won't be so deadly. But since these two already failed, the bamboo under intense heat also caught fire, not hard to understand right? The video I was reacting to in the other thread clearly showed the bamboo burning. After that it will propagate the fire and prolong the fire. If steel had been used, the netting and foam will easily burn out, and the fire will die off fast.

This post has been edited by Supreme1394: Dec 1 2025, 12:28 PM
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post Dec 1 2025, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Dec 1 2025, 12:23 PM)
Wow, anybody who disagrees with your narrative is automatically labelled CCP? mega_shok.gif

I already said, the netting and styrofoam is the first to burn, so of course if these were not there, or if the netting used correct specifications, the fire won't be so deadly. But since these two already failed, the bamboo under intense heat also caught fire, not hard to understand right? The video I was reacting to in the other thread clearly showed the bamboo burning. After that it will propagate the fire and prolong the fire. If steel had been used, the netting and foam will easily burn out, and the fire will die off fast.
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saw some hk source this year got around 10 cases of bamboo scaffolding burned.

this 1 major so gets the hightlight.

u dont see so many metal scaffolding burn also
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post Dec 1 2025, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 1 2025, 12:15 PM)
That's not fire retardant man
That's akin to casting fire onto clothes dipped with petrol

The burning of foam did emit toxic gases and CO which did suffocate the victims
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fire retardant safety netting also melt under fire, non fire retardant safety netting also melts under fire. the main difference is that the non fire retardant does carry some flame to keep burning and melt away. but in the video, some part of the safety netting didnt kept on burning.

the foam is the mail culprit due it is the one that is connecting to the window. once the foam burns, it burns everything near the window, could be books, clothes, furniture.

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