oh well, need to wait for better battery then. this youtube only managed to get 296km range for emas7 (he did lenjan 110/120kmh). cant utilize 180kw charger either.


This post has been edited by zerorating: Nov 29 2025, 10:44 PM

Such a drama queen. Other people do KL-Penang no problem pun.

so he got lemon unit?

EV is never efficient on highways.

I wanted to get one then did my homework and decided to stick to ICE for long distance. I'll be replacing the town car with EV instead.

that explain why honda hybrid car use engine drive at high speed, low friction situation. too much rpm=not efficient.

even high speed it main driver is the motor unit. engine act as generator only. very seldom engine act as main driver.

The more ev issues i see, the more i feel the car is not the issue, but the user is, like this sei sohai.

No, just need to temper expectations. His title is "paling mencabar"... But doing it single charge and wanting 180kw charger is stupid.

Full disclosure, Too Lazy Didn't Watch, so maybe he had disclosed some details.

Then emas5 even _____ lor.

120km/h count as lenjan?

for ev, yes.

for a suv and a ev thats not too shabby..suv is bigger so heavier and not aero efficient

still only need to charge once is not bad, but compare with ice sure lah dont look good

true, EV excels in go stop situation that makes use of regenerative braking.

ehev macam bypass motor on low friction situation

Incorrect for Honda eHEV

At high speed the engine will directly engage with the wheels

aiyoo saga also can crusie at this speed

but small vehicle dont have space for large battery, cant drive for long too.

he got tesla mah, proton emas 7 tow tesla,
when proton emas 7 empty battery, tesla toll proton emas 7

confirm can reach penang in single charge, if cannot get another ev

Lagi susah
Ice need to service
EV need to service

The other week same car making KL - JB trip, kena towed for running out of battery. Owner wants to claim tow truck charge from Proton some more

if got traffic jam , how ?

worst or better ?

Kesian 120 consider lenjan

nissan epower did highlight the engine only act as generator at high speed, maybe they pair with improved motor

Rich ktards with lots of disposable cash spotted in this tered.

wait for emas7 phev.

Bro, I own one.
I always monitor Power Flow Display.
Very very very very very rare Engine Drive. Most of the time hybrid drive. Engine act as generator only.

tbh the front looks ugly

Even if can make in single charge also barely

U tiba Penang also need range to jalan2 around

Just make a quick stop in between la what’s the big deal

Unless u do it every week

If only few times a year not a big deal

This post has been edited by DogeGamingPRO: Nov 29 2025, 11:27 PM

Kancil 660cc also can la hahahha

for this need the next evolution in battery, but for now cars like emas5 is suited for town/city use

in the current tech bigger battery is not the solution, carry the weight is even more inefficient but very rapid charging is what needed



5min charge 180km, 10min 330km..with such rapid charging you kincin stretch leg a little get the range needed but car need to have the architecture and budget ev can only dream

nah, it's the infrastructure need to have the capabilities to support it rather than the car, for the car is just easy peasy pay more and you get more
but the infrastructure is just far to expensive, either way battery assisted charging or getting tnb to supply bigger electricity at the end you aren't going to get cheap electricity

So Honda themselves are lying or they dont understand their own system? They keep saying the engine will drive the wheels at high speed. Or there's a specific speed limit for this?

agree with u most of the time cruising will constantly in-short intervals switch between 3 modes.
especially for civic.. coz 2.0 atkinson always charges the 1kW battery faster than u can consume.

also hab a not-mentioned in broshure~ parallel hybrid (assist) mode also where both drive-motor and engine locked together.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/32...brid_System#pf2

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Nov 30 2025, 12:07 AM

he mau view mah, actually driving EV kena change mentality, charge it when u can, not charge it when it below 20%

My diesel go penang, come back, no need refill yet, still can reach JB

car also need to be 800v system to support these very fast charging, even a tesla model 3 is only 400v not 800v but still newish so its expensive so not many cars using it yet

but scenario like this now at countries like norway and china, they are buying these latest xpeng, nio that can support these very fast charging and they have the architecture to put these charger..but of course lah country like norway 95% plus is ev so have the demand

i remember engine kick in is beyond 110 or 120, dun remember liao

tldr my exp with current gen ehev city

most fuel efficient is at around 70-110km/h cruising
10-60 normal performance
over 120km/h u start to see fuel efficiency goin down.

btw, i usually run around cheras - pj, now fuel efficiency at 24+-km/liter

responding to the previous quote by zen

honda eng they actually do understand the efficiency.. juz they dont want explain to general public coz most wun understand anyway.
so all advertising simplifies into 3 modes and lousy e-CVT naming.

u can read here for the real i-mmd ehev paper.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/32...brid_System#pf2

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Nov 30 2025, 12:26 AM

ahh not this influenza youtuber again. always do stupid video

so its only triggered when driving force is low at high speed, sound like cruising at 80-120km/h
at very high speed, you will have more resistance (wind etc), that will increase driving force.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Nov 30 2025, 12:31 AM

dunno.. depend on how honda they program the ecu and hybrid response..
eveyrthing is automated - no button to push EV mode like toyota system
it has to take into account the need for power and what's the battery state - if u floor the accelerator (tekan berdiri) everything will kick in at once (still driven by motor alone if from 0km/h). engine also high rpm so then generator can churn out more juice.

but one thing we know is engine drive (city and civic) only able kick in at high speed ~ should be >70-80kmh. since it only has a high lock up clutch.
but whether direct-engine or motor-assist should be depend on load. cruising will almost certain be alternating modes depend on battery state, and load variation such as uphill downhill.

crv is one gen later. have both low (for towing load) and high lock up clutch.

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Nov 30 2025, 12:47 AM

this is just simplification of the working for layman. the actual working of course will be more complicated. but in general, the hybrid system will try to maintain optimum engine rpm as much as possible, i.e this during slow speed, excess rpm it use to charge the battery. during high speed if battery is sufficient, it may just use to electric motor as supplement so the engine rpm maintains at the efficient range. only during rare case where the battery almost depletes and at very high load that it will fully use the engine 100% to drive the wheel.

Lenjan 110 120 is not that ‘fast’ la, at least faiz hes honest la unlike the aircincau, terpaling ev

User problem. If drive 60kmh all the way sure can reach la

Battery still new, need “running-in” period to get to opti

nah it's less of a concern from the car, the cost from the car is minimal compared to infrastructure cost and restriction
other countries can do it because their infrastructure have plenty of buffer for future upgrade
however malaysia's tnb isn't the same, our buffer is minimal and it's seen as wastage
you just can't simply install ev chargers in highway / petrol station without upgrading the infrastructure

ice also never efficient at 110-120km/h, it's most efficient at 80-90km/h unless engine too big. Though ice is definitely better for highways simply because of big range

Guys sorry to say ev is not meant for highway la

It’s original purpose is to replace city car and reduce city pollution


120kmh will deplete its battery very fast and 120kmh is not lenjan. Kepala bapak kau lenjan in ev. Lenjan is u redline your rpm meter mana ada redline on ev hahahaha


Deswai ice will be faster to destination because 200kmh no problem but ev 200kmh ur battery half everything ya

This post has been edited by Roadwarrior1337: Nov 30 2025, 05:35 AM

110/120 is lenjan?

Kek

Many here confuse

ehev at high speed eg 120km/h lenjan will run engine+battery charging mode. The engine runs the wheels and at same time charges the battery. Like some said very very rarely the engine direct to the wheels without charging the battery, even if u full pedal to metal, it will be battery + motor to wheel.

we also hybird owners,
u go hiway drive brapa?

True many of friend say panic when driving EV to balik kg

Tesla has the best efficiency in class.

Tesla long range models can easily make it to Penang.

City driving more than sufficient.

Outstation surely insufficient unless willing to charge midway or overnight.

IMO, EV only good for short trips. ICE very inefficient unless hybrid.

In life, everyone will need the following.

EV for city driving including highways or grocery getter.

Hybrid for long distance like across 1 state or sales trips.

ICE for really long distance like across 2-3 states or another country like TH or SG.

Mmg la.
Bigger battery.
But many Tesla owners don't speed above 120kmh on highways.

Yg ada main dgn Kereta Tamiya da tahu high speed mmg makan batteri!

Not everyone wears an engineers brain when driving ev.
So many things need to consider. Menyusahkan betul

Yes Tesla effiency is pretty good. There are some users reported the standard range also can make it PG-KL with 20% left cruising in 110kmh

Can go to Penang Kopitiam

Buy la with high capacity battery over 100kwh punya ...Denza kan ada ... adui ini homework...

Same same la ....after a long distance both also need to refuel .... EV or ICE ..

Wrong.

Petrol stations are everywhere unlike charging stations.

ICE refuel under 5 mins.

EV need 30 mins or longer. Imagine u already lausai and need to go home. For ICE, u pump and rush back. EV no choice need to find a toilet to bomb.

My 2004 Sorento turbo diesel full tank is 250 bucks but can go up to 700 km if maintain 90-100 kph constant. Tested during CNY this year from Kota Kemuning to Alor Setar to Penang and back to Ipoh.

This post has been edited by acbc: Nov 30 2025, 09:12 AM

Agree on this. PHEV trying to be the best of both world. Low speed on electric motor, high speed on engine.

Update la sikit ... many charge stations around ... go shopping can recharge same time ... you baru keluar gua ...
Planning bagus sikit, no issue at all. ... no need lausai ...toilets everywhere too ..ayoyo

Still too long la.

People 5 mins pump and cabut.

EV recharge need to spend money on shopping or walk around aimlessly at crowded places. Wasting time and money.

The future is not EV but hybrid here. Can pump like ICE or charge like EV. No need to find charging stations or waste money at malls.

This post has been edited by acbc: Nov 30 2025, 09:44 AM

You don't charge at shopping all the time la .... normal home charging no need go smell petrol fume .... can live longer ..haha
Hybrid need 2 engines servicing ....more expensive parts ..... that was where I came from ...

Assuming your charger is properly installed and not short circuited and burn down the house first. I know of many opted for cheap uncertified installations due to cost.

ICE too can cause a fire and burn down the house but only if leaking petrol which has happened to me before. I went out and spread the leak with hamster sawdust to soak up the fuel and clean the residue with Fab. Luckily no nearby spark.

Driving below 110kmh is one of the reason of slow moving traffc in right lane.

Especially on Malacca- JB strech that only have 2 lanes. Left lane is full of heavy vehicles so faster car on right lane kenot do shit lol.

For now most are contributed by ICE car, but if EV driver all die2 stick to 90kmh then GG lor.

Honda dont lie. The system determine which mode is the most efficient. I notice if i drive between 80-120kmj crusing on flat road, it alternate between hybrid and engine mode. But if faster than that, is hybrid mode.

Yup. Mine is civic.

Yeahh. And fuel consumption increase too if drive above 120kmj.

Don't be a pain la, so much to assume .... adui ... ever seen one EV burn down a house near you?

owner bodo....kan towing are free for insurance....

TOPKEK

For normal m40 people, nothing beats the sound of k20a going bwaaaaaaaaaa

But strange the other day I heard a byd seal with sound like v8

I’m not sure if it’s speaker or some other gimmick

Hog mid lane/left lane. Maintain 90-100km/h

Tesla woso can get 11.9-12.5kwh/100km topkek.

Standard range can hit almost 500km on 100% charge.

But pipur behind will curse you lar why so slowwwwwpokeee

Like that even lose to Kancil or Axia on highway.

Impossibruuu .. EV can do quarter mile under 3s!

Kekwa
Lenjan 110 siapa suruh. Another noob.

The future is still ev. Just need much more chargers proliferation. Once the infra is there, ev trumps in both efficiency and convenience.

But for now, I'll stick with my icev.

my CRV RS hybrid eHEV will still run in EV mode when i did about ~108km/h on highways, given that i have at least 4 Energy bar. upon reaching 2 bar, back to Engine + electrical motor aka hybrid mode.
Doing more than 108km/h even if have more than 3 bar, will revert back to hybrid mode.

very rarely on full engine more unless i tekan kaw2 150-160km/h smoking that pesky Haval H6 hybrid or Jaecoo P7 PHEV on PLUS highway going from North to KL.

on average, i can manage to do a max range of ~700km per full tank after Trip B reset & fuel bar left only 1 bar from Jitra to KL and return to Jitra again (refuel at Petronas Juru RnR Northbound going back North).

I never trusted the Estimated Fuel Range. Always show me ~850km. It's a scam.
always drive until leave till 1 fuel bar left or blinking Orange, then do a Trip B reset.

that is truest max range per full tank you will get, depending on the way you drive.

when say ~80ish km left (actually in tangki about 9-10L worth). The low fuel alert becomes damn annoying.. in the end juz pump full tank again to get rid of it.

This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Today, 12:28 AM

not worth it to have fuel pump failure, thats why must annoy you.

My ron 95 car never have this problem kek

nope. at high speed, engine is more efficient so the EHEV will also use the ICE to drive the wheels at high speed cruise.
ev fanboys keep saying theirs is 2025 driving experience, their cars dont have adaptive crusie control to ease their drive meh? even i use my dumb cruise control at 100-105kph pun feel so relax and refreshed when i reach PG

cars alraedy v expensive in malaysia now fanboys say should buy 2 cars one for town and one for outstation use?!

actually both can be made efficient regarless of speed

petrol engine can be efficient at low speed also, it's linked to how it's made and the rpm
but usually they make it efficient at higher speed if you want to have both then you're going to complain it's very easpensive

electric engine can be made efficient at high speed also same concept with petrol engin
but then you lose the advantage of boasting like no engin oil no gear box oil and ligther car (without battery included in the calculation)

EV Gear reduce(gearbox) oil still have woh 👀

Depends on brand, still need to change every 40k to 60k km…

mereka dah lama rancang
kita je yang lalai

toplek

kesian 120km/h considered lenjan....

If this emas7 cannot go Penang, which has almost similar battery power as P2 QVE. Than dun be fool by EV commercial gimmick.

introduce a problem that never existed in the first place, for the sake of "environment".

Normally, if you make a rest stop to go toilet and stretch your legs you would go plug in to recharge, a 10-15 minute top up charge at 100kw or more can increase 100-150km range.

This guy never top up cause want to make a video of not charging, but he stop at R&R few times, and every time he stop his range goes down.

If want highway cruise at 120km hour at low rpm , better get diesel

ev fans will say fake news, no need oil change even brake oil also bla bla bla

The more EV issue unker see, the more unker sure EV is a western agenda. Western rely on EV becoz of high fuel cost.

Malaysia cheap oil is a bad business for EV, unless that change stop shootin ourself on the foot.

on other note, the west use nuclear to produce electric, bolehland burn coal and gas, both are not "green"

This post has been edited by karazure: Today, 09:41 AM

Bro, i already mention I own civic hev. High speed is hybrid mode. I always turn on power flow to monitor the usage.

in highway, the engine will direct engage with wheel via a single speed clutch.