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Seawater
post Nov 29 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 29 2025, 07:19 AM)
Most treat EVs as aircon or oven. Need 3 phase for safety.
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Aircon really need 3phase for safety meh? 1 hp only
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Nov 29 2025, 08:34 AM)
These idiots with single phase homes insisting on EV chargers ngam2 the limit mmg bodo, mau terpaling murah with high current. When you advise them must upgrade to three phase, die2 say why you cannot do, the other contractor can do. And those idiot EV charger companies salesperson die2 dont want to lose business force the technical team to install saja.

End up many issues.

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Usually how much to upgrade to 3 phases?
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Nov 29 2025, 09:04 AM)
If whole taman one phase, can a house install 3 phase?

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Yes you can but you need to apply to TNB and the waiting list is quite long now

Used to be in 3 days to complete but now should be a month at least

QUOTE(Seawater @ Nov 29 2025, 07:41 PM)
Aircon really need 3phase for safety meh? 1 hp only
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If single aircon per hse it is fine anything with more than 3 air cons and a fridge running overnight recommended to switch to 3phase
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:52 PM

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This problem is UK using 3 pin and Aus also people there use granny charger but I never hear of cases of fuse overload or tripping. Houses there also majority on single phase only.

Why malaysia banyak these cases

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post Nov 29 2025, 08:17 PM

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didnt know that tnb 1 phase supply is only 5kwh, thought it was capable like 12-13kwh or so.
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post Nov 29 2025, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 29 2025, 07:52 PM)
This problem is UK using 3 pin and Aus also people there use granny charger but I never hear of cases of fuse overload or tripping. Houses there also majority on single phase only.

Why malaysia banyak these cases
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Here many homeowners after power usage assessment, if their usages are almost to the limit, companies will propose to downgrade their chargers or ask the homeowners to upgrade their homes to three phase systems. Many homeowners dont want to change to three phase and downgrade their chargers, pushing the ev charger companies to install anyways eventho it’s near the current limit.

I’d say it’s the mentality of these pipu
maxpudding
post Nov 29 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Seawater @ Nov 29 2025, 07:43 PM)
Usually how much to upgrade to 3 phases?
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Depends on your home and area

Many contractors can give you quotes. But prepare to fork out at least 3-5k.
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post Nov 29 2025, 08:40 PM

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Diu. Just an advertisement to promote own charger
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post Nov 29 2025, 08:45 PM

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post Nov 29 2025, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(AdisonMak @ Nov 29 2025, 11:52 AM)
wall of texas.

Yang i tau rule of thumb technician said is :

Lv1 EV charger on single phase ok
Lv2 EV charger onwards must tukar tu 3 phase.

if cas overnight, pakai Lv1 sudah cukup.

/ktard please advise, betui ka ini?
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Betul.

There are two types of charging : DC and AC charging which depend on the vehicle itself.

Example:
EMAS 7 has integrated AC charging at 11kW. (11000w/240v = 45Amp)
EMAS 5 has limited integrated AC charging at 6.6kW (6600/240 = 27.5Amp)

However, both EMAS have integrated DC charging >50kW.
To do so, one would have to perform three phases AC to DC conversion if one want to charge faster than those cars integrated AC charging circuit

Hereby lies the issue......copper conductors size must be sized to the expected amperage
https://www.elandcables.com/media/vyrp3kxq/...1a-and-4d1b.pdf

To make it short, if you live at terraced houses and sharing those thick ulitity wires..........your neighbour house might get on fire instead of yours when you are charging at full power.....due to wiring/resistance issue.

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post Nov 29 2025, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(akecema @ Nov 29 2025, 07:43 AM)
Use 2k~3kwatt cukup la

Malaysia ni they not educated for electic power la
Dunno what is kwh

Like extension 1.5mm wire pergi bantai 3kw equipment
Ayam powerbank nearlee kaboom because my friend use it for hairdryer
600w vs 1kw hairdryer
Last time ayam balik kg, my dad water heater 3.5kw use pin plug 13a. Ayam liek wtf man. Whos the contractor
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Means safe. Burn 13a fuse. Normal user, just bath cold water. Save energy.


Just lulz.... No serious ok.
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post Nov 29 2025, 09:18 PM

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single phase normally come with 63amp fuse, during the assessment contractor ask me to on all bedroom aircond, two 1.5hp aircond and two 1hp aircond, it is drawing about 40amp of current, if single phase sure easily hit limit and affect the whole row neighborhood of electricity
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post Nov 29 2025, 09:19 PM

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Wanna just drive a car oso susah.... EVs.... Lol

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post Nov 29 2025, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Nov 29 2025, 08:34 AM)
These idiots with single phase homes insisting on EV chargers ngam2 the limit mmg bodo, mau terpaling murah with high current. When you advise them must upgrade to three phase, die2 say why you cannot do, the other contractor can do. And those idiot EV charger companies salesperson die2 dont want to lose business force the technical team to install saja.

End up many issues.

Padan mukak
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3 phase have to pay more. They do not like the extra monies ponied up front. Whats more every month bill also more.
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post Nov 29 2025, 09:23 PM

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1 phase landed house also not ideal for EV

Upgrade 3 phase, need to fork out moneh
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post Nov 29 2025, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 29 2025, 09:18 PM)
single phase normally come with 63amp fuse, during the assessment contractor ask me to on all bedroom aircond, two 1.5hp aircond and two 1hp aircond, it is drawing about 40amp of current, if single phase sure easily hit limit and affect the whole row neighborhood of electricity
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And that the "funny" and dangerous part;

Example, you live at the end of a terraced housing......then you pull a lot of power from the common wires. Now, unluckily enough, your neighbour at the middle of the terraced housing has wiring resistance issue and caught fire instead.....and your neighour like, WTF and how the wire overheat and caught fire? confused.gif


Then again, majority of AC charger box is practically just a relay controlled switch.

DC charger is different since it perform 3 phases AC to DC conversion and tends to be more expensive and heavier.
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post Nov 29 2025, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 29 2025, 09:26 PM)
And that the "funny" and dangerous part;

Example, you live at the end of a terraced housing......then you pull a lot of power from the common wires. Now, unluckily enough, your neighbour at the middle of the terraced housing has wiring resistance issue and caught fire instead.....and your neighour like, WTF and how the wire overheat and caught fire? confused.gif
Then again, majority of AC charger box is practically just a relay controlled switch.

DC charger is different since it perform 3 phases AC to DC conversion and tends to be more expensive and heavier.
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Ada one special DB box for EV charger and Isolator switch, if u engage proper electrician sure pakai 6mm above wire.
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post Nov 29 2025, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Nov 29 2025, 09:20 PM)
3 phase have to pay more. They do not like the extra monies ponied up front. Whats more every month bill also more.
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Deswai padan mukak if anything happens
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post Nov 29 2025, 10:19 PM

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Who in their right mind if buying proton emas 5 at RM57k gonna spend the Rm5-10k to upgrade to 3 phase.

Just install evse and cap to 16a max.


But bifoti mindset never learn. They gonna max out their chargers and then curi curi upgrade fuse and create more issues.
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post Nov 29 2025, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 29 2025, 10:19 PM)
Who in their right mind if buying proton emas 5 at RM57k gonna spend the Rm5-10k to upgrade to 3 phase.

Just install evse and cap to 16a max.
But bifoti mindset never learn. They gonna max out their chargers and then curi curi upgrade fuse and create more issues.
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another problem is B40s will try save out cost of installation, then hire unethical installer to take current directly from meter box without going through DB.

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