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ApocalypseSoon
post Nov 28 2025, 09:35 AM

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It is like incense stick:
Netting+styrofoam = wood powders, resins, herbs
Bamboo = thin bamboo stick


The only place in the world still known for using bamboo scaffolding on modern skyscrapers is:

🇭🇰 Hong Kong — the global exception

Hong Kong is the only country/region where bamboo scaffolding is still used on high-rise and even skyscraper-height buildings (sometimes over 50–60 stories).
This practice is supported by:

A long cultural tradition

A highly skilled, licensed workforce

Government regulations that still allow bamboo scaffolding for tall buildings

The strength-to-weight ratio of bamboo (which is surprisingly strong)

Other places?

Countries like Mainland China, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc., still use bamboo scaffolding—but not on skyscrapers. It is generally limited to low- or mid-rise buildings.

This post has been edited by ApocalypseSoon: Nov 28 2025, 09:45 AM
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post Nov 28 2025, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Nov 28 2025, 09:03 AM)
no fire brigade in the world can handle this type of fire, all countries should learn from this tragedy including malaysia with so many condos
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Haha start with learning to design and maintaining a viable, always passable always there FEA first

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post Nov 28 2025, 09:52 AM

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A firefighting water tower is a specialized vehicle equipped with an extendable boom and a nozzle for delivering large volumes of water or foam to elevated areas, such as high-rise buildings or industrial sites. These trucks enhance firefighting efficiency by allowing firefighters to combat fires from above, especially in situations where traditional methods are insufficient.

Flow Rate: Capable of delivering 70-80 liters per second, with some models reaching up to 7,000 liters per minute.
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post Nov 28 2025, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Nov 28 2025, 09:16 AM)
Buy low floor scare flood
Buy high rise scare fire
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low floor where got flood.

just people throw rubbish tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM

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I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2025, 10:28 AM

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Death toll rose to 83 and injury 77 already. Probably will end in 3 digit death toll since ppl shouldn’t be uncontactable in a world where everyone has a mobile phone. sad.gif
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post Nov 28 2025, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM)
I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? hmm.gif
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They still under 1 country 2 system.
Bamboo have been banned for skyscraper in Mainland China (& Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam), but HK not yet banned it.
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post Nov 28 2025, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 09:35 AM)
It is like incense stick:
Netting+styrofoam =  wood powders, resins, herbs
Bamboo =  thin bamboo stick
The only place in the world still known for using bamboo scaffolding on modern skyscrapers is:

🇭🇰 Hong Kong — the global exception

Hong Kong is the only country/region where bamboo scaffolding is still used on high-rise and even skyscraper-height buildings (sometimes over 50–60 stories).
This practice is supported by:

A long cultural tradition

A highly skilled, licensed workforce

Government regulations that still allow bamboo scaffolding for tall buildings

The strength-to-weight ratio of bamboo (which is surprisingly strong)

Other places?

Countries like Mainland China, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc., still use bamboo scaffolding—but not on skyscrapers. It is generally limited to low- or mid-rise buildings.
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Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits.

To me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze.
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post Nov 28 2025, 10:53 AM

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if M vertical burn got enough water pressure to save fire mou?
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post Nov 28 2025, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:43 AM)
Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits.

To me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze.
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To them, we are not the expert
lets expert do their job to investigate.
The net and the foam is the ultimate cause of first blazing fire for sure. within 2-3min it burn from bottom to top on any of the surface. This is minus the bamboo effect
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Nov 28 2025, 11:00 AM)
To them, we are not the expert
lets expert do their job to investigate.
The net and the foam is the ultimate cause of first blazing fire for sure. within 2-3min it burn from bottom to top on any of the surface. This is minus the bamboo effect
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This is like using charcoal for bbq, u need ignition fuel to start the fire, but ultimately the blaze is kept alive by the charcoal.

The netting and window seal are the ignition fuel, the bamboos is equivalent to the charcoal in bbq.

When we watch the fire footages, we see bamboos on fire, there’s no visible netting on fire as I believe they are quick to ignite and burnt out soon after, the subsequent material that keep the fire alive and grew big is the bamboos.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 10:21 AM)
I just recalled PRC got drones designed to be used for fire fighting. Just realised these drones were no where to be seen in this historical HK tragedy. Either those drones were never adopted by HK firefighters or those drones never made it into practical field usage? hmm.gif
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i doubt drone can steadily hold the position based on the strong wind and fire
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 26 2025, 06:13 PM)
bamboo + wind
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if u ignorant dont simply say
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post Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Nov 28 2025, 06:55 AM)
Opening unit by unit, door by door like opening blind boxes..
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Families arrive to identify bodies as Hong Kong fire death toll rises to 94 on day 3

More bodies pulled from the site as firefighters use aerial ladder to extinguish lingering flames on upper floor of a block at Wang Fuk Court...

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...continues-day-3

In one report, a few upper floor units in 3 blocks were still burning late last night (Thursday). It was estimated to fully doused by 9am today (Friday).


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QUOTE(ApocalypseSoon @ Nov 28 2025, 11:34 AM)
They still under 1 country 2 system.
Bamboo have been banned for skyscraper in Mainland China (& Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam), but HK not yet banned it.
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The netting used in HK are not fire proof because it's cheaper. Even China got fire proof ones that are not expensive. That's why the whistleblower was puzzled why the contractor insist of using the non fire proof ones.

A lot of Hong Kongers are very stubborn and insist their traditional ways are better. They are not very receptive of change

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM)
Families arrive to identify bodies as Hong Kong fire death toll rises to 94 on day 3

More bodies pulled from the site as firefighters use aerial ladder to extinguish lingering flames on upper floor of a block at Wang Fuk Court...

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society...continues-day-3

In one report, a few upper floor units in 3 blocks were still burning late last night (Thursday). It was estimated to fully doused by 9am today (Friday).
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I think many of them hid in the toilet. That's where they'll be found..

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 28 2025, 11:16 AM)
The netting used in HK are not fire proof because it's cheaper. Even China got fire proof ones that are not expensive. That's why the whistleblower was puzzled why the contractor insist of using the non fire proof ones.

A lot of Hong Kongers are very stubborn and insist their traditional ways are better. They are not very receptive of change
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The Hongkies and Jipunis rather similar, they are advanced in some way but also very regress in some other ways.

The Jipunis keep using fax and floppy disks, Hongkies keep using bamboo scaffolding… sweat.gif
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post Nov 28 2025, 11:23 AM

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based on the rescue by their fire fighter ar, can see they have long ass ladder that can go up to 100meter (tbc) or 30 stories and it cost up to RM1 million for that.

Malaysia got ar ? how well is ours bomba preparation for emergency sitaution like this ?

nvm jakim more funding first.
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post Nov 28 2025, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 28 2025, 11:07 AM)
Still many Hongkies argue bamboos were not to be blamed, the netting and window seal are the real culprits.

To me, the netting and seal may have been the first materials to ignite, but it’s evidenced that subsequent material that kept the fire going and become huge blaze is the bamboos. If they use metal scaffolding, we wouldn’t have such huge blaze.
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Can clearly see the bamboo burned into ashes, but many hongkie comment in YT still claim that bamboo is safe bcoz it have been painted with a fire retardant layer & it still it stand after the big fire.

Changing bamboo to steel will have mitigated this fire dramatically.

hongkie are really retarded.

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post Nov 28 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 27 2025, 06:22 AM)
Well, we have quite a lot of mini HKs style condos here!  If this can happen in HK, then it can happen in Mesia…..matter of time, I suppose.
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Very low chance it will happen here lah, we using metal/aluminium scaffolding, normally high rise building exterior maintenance involving in painting or water proofing only

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