hi guys. i bought a customize desktop gaming pc. spec as below

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16G VENTUS 3X OC
T-Create Exp 2x16GB DDR5 6000Mhx CL30
Kioxia G4 Plus 2TB Gen5 SSD
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black
Antec C3 Black
Win 11 Ori OEM

for a price of RM10k+-.

is this a decent built? i know ram price sky high next 2026. if buy one by one also price almost same at lowyat if own build

you prefer own build or let the customize shop do for you?

u can save abit more by not buying the Win 11 copy

u can get a key for very very cheap or for free even

ya want to get cheap one. but i will felt guilty later

You bought it, paid for it, and received it, am rite? Then its decent for you coz you chosen it. Dont have buyers remorse coz everyone can have their own opinion.

u feel guilty for a 3.5 trillion dollar company? lol

haha self-guilt

1440p or 4K monitor?

previously i stuck during athlon xp era. go to lowyat, buy one by one parts. assemble by myself. now technology changing so fast. luckily have many shops that do desktop customization

Bro, been there done that. Do not 2nd guess Ur choice. U will going spiral tripping.

haha. i tripping on my choice previously. either Ryzen 7 7800X3D or Ryzen 7 9800X3D. also the board selection between B850 and X870. not only that, the DDR5 also got EXPO / XMP function. lol. previously i only use DDR2 for my custom desktop. one ram for all. now ram also has specified Intel or AMD build. haha time fly so fast

bought most of the part online(lazada shopee), saved 1k +

dang, they really dropped. last i check they were above Apple

i want to do that. but so scared if want to claim for the warranty

Noctua NH-U12A... Another waterfish caught. Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 does it for less than half the price and performs better.

i can do it way cheaper

can share? i tried to get the pricelist from lowyat online, compare but still expensive

seriously? i thought noctua is a good & premium build brand?

Not with current price. Only good hardware without the performance to back it up.

https://www.noctua.at/en/expertise/guides/n...formance-rating

About NH-D15S performance which is less performance than NH-D15 G1.

Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 review (around RM190-200) :
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...or-130-review/2

Also, Phison E31T controller from that SSD is DRAMless crap too.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Nov 25 2025, 06:42 PM

Seconded on Thermalright, I got Peerless Assassin last year when my AIO decided to die and was pleasantly surprised that it's good cooling even on sustained workload.

Your right, its a good competent cooler and it is still premium brand. Just that in terms of performance other cheaper brands has caught up, NH-U12A is single tower so it will lose cooling vs dual towers like PA120 but its lighter (less sag) and has much better tall RAM compatibility so as long as it can keep that 9800x3d within temps (and it does!) you dont have to sweat paying more for it as theres pros & cons.

noctua eventhough single tower, but it have total 14 heatpipes with 2 backup fans. PA120 dual tower and has total 12 heatpipes. haha. previously i also compared both brand. but decided to choose noctua

my early build pc i use thermaltake sonic tower. fanless cooling tower for my athlon

how long your AIO survive? nowadays many brands offered AIO type. i decided not to have AIO since it is involving in pumps, cooling liquid, radiator, etc. its prone to fails and expensive replacement

with this current price, whats your preferred build? mind to share?

also can explain more about phison E31T? DRAMless? i so confuse with current technology term. haha

Whether it’s a decent build depends on your use case. Whether it’s gaming, editing, Local LLM, etc.

Even with gaming, the resolution and frame rate also matters.

Personally for me which use case is 100% gaming at 1440p or 4k, I’d get a better gpu for that budget.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Nov 26 2025, 09:46 AM

9800X3d RM1,899.00
b850 tomahawk wifi RM1,399.00
32gb 6000mhz cl30 acer pallas II black RM829.00
2TB samsung 990 pro RM829.00
colorful rtx 5070ti battle ax RM3,799.00
thermalright ps 120 se RM189.00
1st player ngdp 850 gold atx 3.1 RM485.00
LIAN LI LANCOOL 217 INF BLACK (LAN217INFX)


RM9,429.00

alienware outlet aw3225qd 4k qd-0led 3yr warranty RM2699

alienware outlet aw2725Q 4k qd-oled 3yr warranty RM2299

i believe the frame rate is not noticeable as i casually play games. haha. if its smooth, graphic cun, then ok. if for work, yes all those will matter

previously i build, only for speed for overclocking the athlon. as during that era, so craze this amd vs intel. saying athlon is a hot processor compared to less hot intel

for gpu selection, its either 5070ti and 5090. as 5080 i believe the performance wise is between 5070ti and 5090. not much difference

same like ryzen 7 9800x3d, ryzen 9 9900x3d and ryzen 9 9955x3d

better select between 9800x3d or 9955x3d

but it depends on your pocket as well

owh your mobo is b850. and samsung is gen 4. i think if select x870 mobo and gen 5 ssd, sure price same as my build

but lian li lancool so cool looking casing with 170cm fan

Your G4 Plus Gen5 SSD is DRAMless so roughly comparable topline Gen4 SSD like 990 Pro, if not slightly worse because its your only OS boot drive and DRAMless.

About 3 years only
Yeah, for long term use AIO not suitable

If it was purely for gaming,
You actually get noticeable performance improvements between a 5080 and a 5070ti, especially when overclocked.
There is pretty much no gaming performance difference between a 9800x3d and a 9955x3d.

For optimized games, you won’t notice the frame rate.
But for unoptimized UE5 games at higher resolution, it might count.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Nov 26 2025, 05:14 PM

x870 msi tomahawk RM1499

still cheaper

RM9.6k only..

This post has been edited by myway1985: Nov 26 2025, 05:31 PM

Im guessing the OPs MSI PRO X870-P WIFI would be cheaper than both and its an X870

try look for the one have local shop near klang valley so you can walk in if need to claim warranty..

Do you interested with used Lian Li O11 Vision Compact with 10 free 3rd party infinity case fan(full white)?
Selling cheap cheap

Changing to lancool 217 inf, now waiting for new case fan and cables.

This will be miles ahead.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 1899
Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 - 188 (Noctua NH-U12A is RM534 at the moment)
MSI X870-P Wifi - 1142
G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB DDR5-6000 kit - 719
MSI RTX 5080 16GB Shadow 3X - 4715
WD Black SN850X 1TB - 439
FSP Vita GM 1000W - 599
Lian Li Lancool 207 case - 288

RM9989 total (Shopee and Viewnet prices)

DRAMless?


This post has been edited by TristanX: Nov 26 2025, 07:21 PM

@TS
just enjoy your rig, welp you bought it and now probably too late to change your mind about the parts,
after 1 or 2 years, swap with batter parts

honestly, the parts are going to last
they're not best, but not bad either
maybe DRAMless SSDs now not as unreliable as they were in the past, plus this Kioxia SSD uses TLC instead of the cost cutting QLC. 1200TBW for a DRAMless 2TB is unheard of, it's matching SSDs with DRAM already. last time we used to say DRAMless SSD has lower lifespan than with but now no longer the case.

X870 p it's the entry mobo.. vrm can't compete with tomahawk la

Problem is even DRAMless Gen5 SSD is expensive, for that price one could get a topline Gen4 SSD with DRAM like WD850x or 990 Pro at the same capacity which will be a lot better even if the 'on paper' speed is less than that G4 Plus.

Lifespan is one thing but the problem is OS drive will write & read continuously so a DRAM buffer is needed. Not to say DRAMless is useless but only purpose would be as storage and not as OS boot drive.

Isnt too far away...



Higher 6C VRM temps and only loses 20 Cine2024 points at 100Mhz lower CPU boost. Even then still well within thermal limits. Here is the summary of this mobo:
"In terms of performance, the Pro X870-P WiFi worked well. General performance was excellent, VRM thermals were solid, and the board was stable with DDR5-8000 memory, even pushing up to 8,100. Overall, the Pro X870-P WiFi is a decent motherboard. Depending on which features are most important to you, it could be a good alternative to other entry-level boards."

'sadly' i at jb area only go back klang on once a month or two

i choose this board because of their 8 layers pcb, compared to gigabyte only has 6 layers. msi board claimed as server grade standard

as the Kioxia MTTF is around 1.5mill hours, so thats why i choose this brand.. also to utilize Gen.5 SSD slot. btw, thanks for the sharing of the DRAMless things. samsung SSD have 2GB DRAM on their SSD i think. but for the most daily usage, it might not have so much impact and might not noticeable. haha. plus, i might bought another Gen4 SSD to utilize remaining slot

Bad experience with P de..last round put 7950x on it.. vrm overheat after render 1 5min 4k video .

if the AIO radiator leaking, walauweh. haha. as most of the AIO now place on top of the mobo and gc. imagine.. got leaking.. so better choose air cooled.

i think your vrm not enough? as 7950x is 16cores. but this board only support max 10cores of CPU if not mistaken

Should be...kiam siap client I met..gav me the so called audit spec n must follow the spec given by con-sultant... Very problematic build.. disable 2nd die then baru work well.. so tat board I think should work for single dieside processor..

Hmm... TS/HUB was benching with 9950x 16cores too at Cine2024 for 1hr so CPU load would be high as well but they got VRM temps at just 60C ? Hmm... maybe your case airflow not optimised or the PC location has bad ventilation or something?

Oh yeah 7000series was around when PBO went to hell and burning CPUs too, maybe something with AMD settings back then?

doesnt matter.. overall many shop still can quote cheaper.. haha.. tat my point

Especially when you have NH-U12A priced at RM534. Lol

Many air coolers at less than half the price beats it.

Err yeah anyhow no need to make TS feel bad lah, I do think his build is decent enuff and he is happy with it.

Noctua continues their futureproven commitment
https://www.techpowerup.com/343334/noctuas-...ova-lake-socket

hahaha.. 1st time using so called premium air cooler.. so tempting with the name lol

wat to do bro. i unker already. left this pc building so many years since athlon 32 bits.. lol

its a CON.. sultant.. con 1st. sultant later..

I agree with u that this Kioxia SSD is indeed expensive, didn't check on the price. going for a high end Gen4 would def much more worth it (that or when u buy straight from amazon, not local shops, and sacrifice local warranty unless mega sales put a 4TB 990 Pro under 1.3k)

but from perf view, if this Kioxia SSD is used for OS drive, I don't see any problem also. most of the time, these read/write sequences are a lot but not large. SLC cache can kaotim these scenarios. but sustained writes like downloading games to ur main OS drive then yeah, that sacrifices it

honestly the true gimmick here is the Gen5. but lifespan and perf wise regardless of sustained, burst or sequential, it'll probably handle it pretty well even as OS drive. Kioxia is Toshiba, so I won't really doubt their stuffs (and they offer 5y warranty so yea it's fine). but the price is on the expensive side ofc. so far I've never heard of major issues by Japanese NAND makers (heard enough from Chinese and Korean)

This post has been edited by lolzcalvin: Nov 27 2025, 06:13 PM

haha.. i oso 1 of the early day athlon user.. oso among the 1st to melt the processor

If given choice same price between DRAMless Gen5 and DRAM SSD Gen4, I would reco the Gen drive. Current application not really make use of Gen5 speeds and even if such were to happen, having a DRAM buffer would be preferable to maintain saturated data rate. Having DRAM oso helps in other things.

i do remember intel vs amd battle. lol. they promote intel is not so hot compared to amd. everytime i talk about amd athlon, eh that processor is not hot meh? lols

how come you melt the processor?

cooler install terbalik

Idealtech?

For your budget i could probably give you 48gb of ram and a better 5070ti from colorful instead of ventus tbh with far cheaper pricing.
Noctua and Win11 are a waste of money honestly.
Casing has nice aesthetics but will impact thermal performance.

But with ram prices skyrocketing im not sure if i can secure the ram hahaha.

This post has been edited by ljl87: Nov 28 2025, 07:02 PM

nah.. too late.. he already bought.. tat budget i can bundle an aw2725Q for him oso.. haha

as i compare with lowyat pricelist. so better i grab this promotion noctua seems cool with all black and they give free thermal paste too.. for win11, this my 1st time grabbing a original software lol.. previously i get it from laptop bundle

dah beli dah bang. hahaha. so just plug and play saja. haha ram price also sky rocket