noctua eventhough single tower, but it have total 14 heatpipes with 2 backup fans. PA120 dual tower and has total 12 heatpipes. haha. previously i also compared both brand. but decided to choose noctua

my early build pc i use thermaltake sonic tower. fanless cooling tower for my athlon

how long your AIO survive? nowadays many brands offered AIO type. i decided not to have AIO since it is involving in pumps, cooling liquid, radiator, etc. its prone to fails and expensive replacement

with this current price, whats your preferred build? mind to share?

also can explain more about phison E31T? DRAMless? i so confuse with current technology term. haha

Whether it’s a decent build depends on your use case. Whether it’s gaming, editing, Local LLM, etc.

Even with gaming, the resolution and frame rate also matters.

Personally for me which use case is 100% gaming at 1440p or 4k, I’d get a better gpu for that budget.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Nov 26 2025, 09:46 AM

9800X3d RM1,899.00
b850 tomahawk wifi RM1,399.00
32gb 6000mhz cl30 acer pallas II black RM829.00
2TB samsung 990 pro RM829.00
colorful rtx 5070ti battle ax RM3,799.00
thermalright ps 120 se RM189.00
1st player ngdp 850 gold atx 3.1 RM485.00
LIAN LI LANCOOL 217 INF BLACK (LAN217INFX)


RM9,429.00

alienware outlet aw3225qd 4k qd-0led 3yr warranty RM2699

alienware outlet aw2725Q 4k qd-oled 3yr warranty RM2299

i believe the frame rate is not noticeable as i casually play games. haha. if its smooth, graphic cun, then ok. if for work, yes all those will matter

previously i build, only for speed for overclocking the athlon. as during that era, so craze this amd vs intel. saying athlon is a hot processor compared to less hot intel

for gpu selection, its either 5070ti and 5090. as 5080 i believe the performance wise is between 5070ti and 5090. not much difference

same like ryzen 7 9800x3d, ryzen 9 9900x3d and ryzen 9 9955x3d

better select between 9800x3d or 9955x3d

but it depends on your pocket as well

owh your mobo is b850. and samsung is gen 4. i think if select x870 mobo and gen 5 ssd, sure price same as my build

but lian li lancool so cool looking casing with 170cm fan

Your G4 Plus Gen5 SSD is DRAMless so roughly comparable topline Gen4 SSD like 990 Pro, if not slightly worse because its your only OS boot drive and DRAMless.

About 3 years only
Yeah, for long term use AIO not suitable

If it was purely for gaming,
You actually get noticeable performance improvements between a 5080 and a 5070ti, especially when overclocked.
There is pretty much no gaming performance difference between a 9800x3d and a 9955x3d.

For optimized games, you won’t notice the frame rate.
But for unoptimized UE5 games at higher resolution, it might count.

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Nov 26 2025, 05:14 PM

x870 msi tomahawk RM1499

still cheaper

RM9.6k only..

This post has been edited by myway1985: Nov 26 2025, 05:31 PM

Im guessing the OPs MSI PRO X870-P WIFI would be cheaper than both and its an X870

try look for the one have local shop near klang valley so you can walk in if need to claim warranty..

Do you interested with used Lian Li O11 Vision Compact with 10 free 3rd party infinity case fan(full white)?
Selling cheap cheap

Changing to lancool 217 inf, now waiting for new case fan and cables.

This will be miles ahead.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 1899
Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 - 188 (Noctua NH-U12A is RM534 at the moment)
MSI X870-P Wifi - 1142
G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB DDR5-6000 kit - 719
MSI RTX 5080 16GB Shadow 3X - 4715
WD Black SN850X 1TB - 439
FSP Vita GM 1000W - 599
Lian Li Lancool 207 case - 288

RM9989 total (Shopee and Viewnet prices)

DRAMless?


This post has been edited by TristanX: Nov 26 2025, 07:21 PM

@TS
just enjoy your rig, welp you bought it and now probably too late to change your mind about the parts,
after 1 or 2 years, swap with batter parts

honestly, the parts are going to last
they're not best, but not bad either
maybe DRAMless SSDs now not as unreliable as they were in the past, plus this Kioxia SSD uses TLC instead of the cost cutting QLC. 1200TBW for a DRAMless 2TB is unheard of, it's matching SSDs with DRAM already. last time we used to say DRAMless SSD has lower lifespan than with but now no longer the case.

X870 p it's the entry mobo.. vrm can't compete with tomahawk la

Problem is even DRAMless Gen5 SSD is expensive, for that price one could get a topline Gen4 SSD with DRAM like WD850x or 990 Pro at the same capacity which will be a lot better even if the 'on paper' speed is less than that G4 Plus.

Lifespan is one thing but the problem is OS drive will write & read continuously so a DRAM buffer is needed. Not to say DRAMless is useless but only purpose would be as storage and not as OS boot drive.

Isnt too far away...



Higher 6C VRM temps and only loses 20 Cine2024 points at 100Mhz lower CPU boost. Even then still well within thermal limits. Here is the summary of this mobo:
"In terms of performance, the Pro X870-P WiFi worked well. General performance was excellent, VRM thermals were solid, and the board was stable with DDR5-8000 memory, even pushing up to 8,100. Overall, the Pro X870-P WiFi is a decent motherboard. Depending on which features are most important to you, it could be a good alternative to other entry-level boards."