can only get ruski after new us prez

lolz by 2035. got 7th gen d. Malaysia baru nak sign 5th gen. lolz.

Fully Operating 5th gen by 2040
Still need to filled the gap left by MIG29N, MB339 and soon Hawk.
Hence the interim solution paving the way.

MB339 and HAWK not filled by FA50 in light attack/fighter/trainer role?


Mig29, need F18C/D from Kuwait.

It is the government cabinet meeting who will decide what to buy. Not the army.

no gua, 6th gen not even have one real plane yet, not sure the china one is real or not la, even then that is real, they still doing test flight :X may take another 10-15 years to get it launch and available in the market :X

Is true

Cuz the army doesnt operate a fighter jet

1st gen was roughly the 40s and early 50s.
2nd gen roughly the late 50s to the 60s
3rd gen from 60s to the 70s
4th gen was the 80s until late 90s and most has been upgraded to 4.5 gen and is operating since the early 00s.

The first 5th gen was produced in 97 and formally in service only in 2005. The F22 is only expected to be replaced as the premier USAF fighter by the F-47 in 2030.

That means 6th gen planes will be flying at least until 2055, which is when the first 7th gen planes start trials. And most likely later than that as each fighter jet generation has taken longer and longer to replace. Even the fifth- gen F35 is planned for operation until 2070. Malaysia being one or two gen behind is fine for a country our size.

for next 10 years i think KF-21 matches Msia better than anything else.

that is the timing without China in the equation.

with china speed.

maybe 2035 will see Gen7 test fly already for both USA and China.

when got competitor, everything will go very fast.

Given mof budget allocation and medium term risks assessment, anti ship capability should has higher priority than air superiority.

between, even we get Gen5 jet, is waste of money and pointless.

cause what important is complete sync system,
only jet fighter = suicide

Pak vs Barat case already best mirror.

What F-22? They are not for export. SU57 is gen 5/6, still not enough made for export as local Rusky AF pon xcukup. Best bet is kimchi, sushi and US F35D (detuned) or ikea saab.
Bharat and turki can buang dlm laut.

why need?...cost saving since a prof says this....

the smell of gravy money....is too strong...

US will not sell F35 to us la. Even Taiwan did not get F35.

make sure to buy extra engine, tqvm

This post has been edited by karazure: Nov 25 2025, 08:43 AM

malaysia might run into money issue to buy and maintain. 5th gen is a make up of many systems, just the fighter plane itself cost a fortune. The cheapest to maintain will still be the SU-57, it is not really full stealth because the real RAM coating is extremely expensive and maintainance nightmare, the Russian has to cut corners due to war and limited research

looking at the hardware bought by PMX cabinet..seems like going in the right direction

u see LMS under ahjib...cibai only 1 canon...WTFFF

PMX bought LMS batch 2 complete 3 dimensional ship liaoo...anti air..anti ship and torpedo oso can...topkek

FA-50 also seems good choice lor..if ahjib or some other goons probably bought tejas edi coz u know why..topkek

who needs planes when we can fly?

I think by then 5th gen also become mainstream and cheaper

F35A and J35 is becoming cheaper than some 4.5gen fighter because its being mass produced in thousands

F35A and J35 still very high in price. As far as i know China is not in any hurry to fulfil any international order, F35A sales really depending on US mood, it will go up because of rare earth price and the price paid by every country is really different, like tiers. China on the other hand now prefer cash or gold and which friend tiers. those barter trade days using palm oil are over. Even Iran trying to buy J-10 China told them to fucuk off. Maybe Russia still ok with palm oil trade

OK malaysia with rare earth trade for Jet,

BMX favourite vendor is Turkish.

KAAN fighter jet

Yes the LCA but the hawk actually can do more which is why the mudmovers is still operating. One of the best decision by the brast aircraft advance air combat with AIM missile firing capabilities.

MRCA - Multirole Combat Aircraft
So they can do all task.

Not even cabinet has the power 🤦‍♀️ the power lies in decision making PM and supported by FM which coincidentally the same useless person now BMX

Army is only have the technical feasibility decision and recommendation only

And he leave it largely to mof staffs recommendation.

what criteria to get latesf jet like gen 6 or 7. other than money. malaysia mcm ketingallan but alot money

Biar betik Panglima Tentera Udara MY 😁



Betul ke dia mau juai F22 kat kite, and can we really afford?

Typo

For the input yes 🤦‍♀️ but not for final decision making and not forgotten to most important signature to allocate funds to the army itself

F22 is no longer in production, even USAF wants to get more units also can't without extreme cost to restart an upgraded line.

No money lah, later also can't maintain. 😅Just buy some drones will do.

ROC did not get because because of risk of RedChina spying

We dont have this problem. If Sinkie can get F35, no reason RMAF can not get provided we have enough funds. Maybe can get discount also

The amount of free stuff the US gave us (long range radar, Boeing drones, patrol aircraft upgrade) we can get it

Just need to say the magic words. We act as first line of defense against RedChina

Hal Tejas is absolutely king of sky





Ohwai

Singkie is loyal us ally

F35 is for ally only...


Kekwa

F22 impossible lol

Even ally also don't get this

Don't dream

Mindef. Army could only recommend.


This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 26 2025, 09:20 AM

Even if f35 is offered to rmaf, is unlikely to have allocations from mof. Besides, pn and bn politicians avoid buying from the u.s.

How about postpone 5th Gen purchase until got more choices

Proceed with F15EX as new MRCA. Indon sudah sign MOU so we have a neighbour that can cross support

Malaysia need 5th gen jet fighters to fight against a bunch of tree people with sumpits.

Just buy hundreds of Suicide drones lah

Not true

F35A costs is now comparable to 4.5 Generation jets not from Russia and China due to economies of scale. Might as well go for 5th Gen jets now

We will never buy Russian or Chinese

rmn bought lms from prc and rmaf bought sukoi and mig from russia. many top brass visited russia recently.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 26 2025, 02:39 PM

Chinese LMS was during Najib era

the second batch was changed to Turkish

This post has been edited by Raddus: Nov 26 2025, 02:51 PM

Whole fleet will be wiped if no proper planning after acquiring…also gen 1 or gen 10 no diff…buy is to explode the sulu pirates and invaders and they’ll never be able to fly anyway

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: Nov 26 2025, 03:11 PM

I don't mind but US mia equipment bole caya?

If say Israel or god forbid SG wanna serang us, they send their US warplanes to attack, but ours suddenly engine takle start?
Dah remote disabled? Bole ke scenario mcm ni happen? 😁


At least if Russia, I see UA using Russian tanks lar, Russian air defense lar. All still working even against Russia. 😆

Will u.s permit sg to attack us? what is the chance of sg attacking us if compare with indo, thai, philippine and prc? don't forget indon had confrontation with us but not sg.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 26 2025, 03:56 PM

SG will not attack us. They will not attack anyone. That tiny island cannot survive any counterattack. Nowadays, suicide drones are very easy to get and are very effective. We can even shop for hypersonic weapons now.

RMAF needs to seriously study how drones are going to affect warfare in the future and perhaps rethink their future procurements.

More likely a crazy Thai general would invade Malaysia than SG invade Malaysia

Thrash this thinking. Anyone can attack anyone.

Sgs militay capabiliies far exceeds Msias.

One only needs to take a look at where MAF formations are placed in peninsula Msia to know where Msias worry is.

But yes. The 2 countries are more likely to cooperate than fight esp after Tuns era of politicians leave the scene

If even have allocations 🤦‍♀️ no point because you need to get US Congress approval which is unlikely given that Malaysia doesn’t have proper relationship within US govt branches

Even BMX so called US Allie’s is still from the 90s without any skin in the game anymore

dah ada

Malaysia have been sending joker politicians to DC, seldom interacts with us administration, senate and congress.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Nov 27 2025, 07:28 AM

Wrong

US Congress has no problem allowing drones, radar and jets supplies in the past

The fact that we sit beside the Straits of Malacca and a knife at RedChina's throat in terms of enegy supplies makes us a global player in geopolitics

Yeah most of them are there for a long term working holiday

The problem is not the US Congress but Malaysia doesn’t have proper ambassadors since Thanos time in the late 80s till now who interacts with the Congress members itself 🤦‍♀️ hence why you can see that BMX is already out of touch as his so called US Allies doesn’t have any skin in the game

Even Najib doesn’t even have access to the US Congress and need to pay external lobbies to even setup a private meeting with Trump unofficially

Unlike Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam and Phillipines their ambassador have silently cultivate relationship with US Congress members

So Malaysia is not relevant just moving pawn to to cede power and influence to the US as you can tell from the useless ART agreement