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Nov 24 2025, 11:06 PM, updated 14h ago
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Nov 24 2025, 11:12 PM
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can only get ruski after new us prez
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Nov 24 2025, 11:12 PM
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lolz by 2035. got 7th gen d. Malaysia baru nak sign 5th gen. lolz.
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Nov 24 2025, 11:13 PM
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Nov 24 2025, 11:24 PM
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Nov 24 2025, 11:25 PM
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It is the government cabinet meeting who will decide what to buy. Not the army.
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Nov 24 2025, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 24 2025, 11:12 PM) no gua, 6th gen not even have one real plane yet, not sure the china one is real or not la, even then that is real, they still doing test flight :X may take another 10-15 years to get it launch and available in the market :X |
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Nov 24 2025, 11:34 PM
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Nov 24 2025, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 24 2025, 11:12 PM) 1st gen was roughly the 40s and early 50s.2nd gen roughly the late 50s to the 60s 3rd gen from 60s to the 70s 4th gen was the 80s until late 90s and most has been upgraded to 4.5 gen and is operating since the early 00s. The first 5th gen was produced in 97 and formally in service only in 2005. The F22 is only expected to be replaced as the premier USAF fighter by the F-47 in 2030. That means 6th gen planes will be flying at least until 2055, which is when the first 7th gen planes start trials. And most likely later than that as each fighter jet generation has taken longer and longer to replace. Even the fifth- gen F35 is planned for operation until 2070. Malaysia being one or two gen behind is fine for a country our size. |
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Nov 24 2025, 11:56 PM
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for next 10 years i think KF-21 matches Msia better than anything else.
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Nov 24 2025, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Nov 24 2025, 11:44 PM) 1st gen was roughly the 40s and early 50s. that is the timing without China in the equation.2nd gen roughly the late 50s to the 60s 3rd gen from 60s to the 70s 4th gen was the 80s until late 90s and most has been upgraded to 4.5 gen and is operating since the early 00s. The first 5th gen was produced in 97 and formally in service only in 2005. The F22 is only expected to be replaced as the premier USAF fighter by the F-47 in 2030. That means 6th gen planes will be flying at least until 2055, which is when the first 7th gen planes start trials. And most likely later than that as each fighter jet generation has taken longer and longer to replace. Even the fifth- gen F35 is planned for operation until 2070. Malaysia being one or two gen behind is fine for a country our size. with china speed. maybe 2035 will see Gen7 test fly already for both USA and China. when got competitor, everything will go very fast. |
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Given mof budget allocation and medium term risks assessment, anti ship capability should has higher priority than air superiority. bill11 liked this post
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between, even we get Gen5 jet, is waste of money and pointless.
cause what important is complete sync system, only jet fighter = suicide Pak vs Barat case already best mirror. |
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 24 2025, 11:06 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « What F-22? They are not for export. SU57 is gen 5/6, still not enough made for export as local Rusky AF pon xcukup. Best bet is kimchi, sushi and US F35D (detuned) or ikea saab. Bharat and turki can buang dlm laut. |
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the smell of gravy money....is too strong...
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US will not sell F35 to us la. Even Taiwan did not get F35.
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make sure to buy extra engine, tqvm This post has been edited by karazure: Yesterday, 08:43 AM abc2005 liked this post
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malaysia might run into money issue to buy and maintain. 5th gen is a make up of many systems, just the fighter plane itself cost a fortune. The cheapest to maintain will still be the SU-57, it is not really full stealth because the real RAM coating is extremely expensive and maintainance nightmare, the Russian has to cut corners due to war and limited research
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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Nov 24 2025, 11:25 PM) looking at the hardware bought by PMX cabinet..seems like going in the right directionu see LMS under ahjib...cibai only 1 canon...WTFFF PMX bought LMS batch 2 complete 3 dimensional ship liaoo...anti air..anti ship and torpedo oso can...topkek FA-50 also seems good choice lor..if ahjib or some other goons probably bought tejas edi coz u know why..topkek |
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who needs planes when we can fly?
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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 25 2025, 09:13 AM) malaysia might run into money issue to buy and maintain. 5th gen is a make up of many systems, just the fighter plane itself cost a fortune. The cheapest to maintain will still be the SU-57, it is not really full stealth because the real RAM coating is extremely expensive and maintainance nightmare, the Russian has to cut corners due to war and limited research I think by then 5th gen also become mainstream and cheaperF35A and J35 is becoming cheaper than some 4.5gen fighter because its being mass produced in thousands |
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 25 2025, 12:05 PM) I think by then 5th gen also become mainstream and cheaper F35A and J35 still very high in price. As far as i know China is not in any hurry to fulfil any international order, F35A sales really depending on US mood, it will go up because of rare earth price and the price paid by every country is really different, like tiers. China on the other hand now prefer cash or gold and which friend tiers. those barter trade days using palm oil are over. Even Iran trying to buy J-10 China told them to fucuk off. Maybe Russia still ok with palm oil tradeF35A and J35 is becoming cheaper than some 4.5gen fighter because its being mass produced in thousands |
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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 25 2025, 12:13 PM) F35A and J35 still very high in price. As far as i know China is not in any hurry to fulfil any international order, F35A sales really depending on US mood, it will go up because of rare earth price and the price paid by every country is really different, like tiers. China on the other hand now prefer cash or gold and which friend tiers. those barter trade days using palm oil are over. Even Iran trying to buy J-10 China told them to fucuk off. Maybe Russia still ok with palm oil trade OK malaysia with rare earth trade for Jet, |
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Yesterday, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 25 2025, 09:55 AM) looking at the hardware bought by PMX cabinet..seems like going in the right direction BMX favourite vendor is Turkish.u see LMS under ahjib...cibai only 1 canon...WTFFF PMX bought LMS batch 2 complete 3 dimensional ship liaoo...anti air..anti ship and torpedo oso can...topkek FA-50 also seems good choice lor..if ahjib or some other goons probably bought tejas edi coz u know why..topkek |
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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Nov 24 2025, 11:24 PM) MB339 and HAWK not filled by FA50 in light attack/fighter/trainer role? Yes the LCA but the hawk actually can do more which is why the mudmovers is still operating. One of the best decision by the brast aircraft advance air combat with AIM missile firing capabilities. Mig29, need F18C/D from Kuwait. QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 25 2025, 12:00 AM) Given mof budget allocation and medium term risks assessment, anti ship capability should has higher priority than air superiority. MRCA - Multirole Combat AircraftSo they can do all task. |
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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Nov 24 2025, 11:25 PM) Not even cabinet has the power 🤦♀️ the power lies in decision making PM and supported by FM which coincidentally the same useless person now BMXArmy is only have the technical feasibility decision and recommendation only abc2005 liked this post
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Nov 25 2025, 06:57 PM) Not even cabinet has the power 🤦♀️ the power lies in decision making PM and supported by FM which coincidentally the same useless person now BMX And he leave it largely to mof staffs recommendation.Army is only have the technical feasibility decision and recommendation only |
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Biar betik Panglima Tentera Udara MY 😁
QUOTE PTU mentioned F-35, F-22, Su-57, J-20 and TF-X to name a few Betul ke dia mau juai F22 kat kite, and can we really afford? |
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 25 2025, 11:10 PM) Typo countingcrows liked this post
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F22 is no longer in production, even USAF wants to get more units also can't without extreme cost to restart an upgraded line.
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No money lah, later also can't maintain. 😅Just buy some drones will do.
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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Nov 25 2025, 08:41 AM) ROC did not get because because of risk of RedChina spying We dont have this problem. If Sinkie can get F35, no reason RMAF can not get provided we have enough funds. Maybe can get discount also The amount of free stuff the US gave us (long range radar, Boeing drones, patrol aircraft upgrade) we can get it Just need to say the magic words. We act as first line of defense against RedChina |
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Hal Tejas is absolutely king of sky
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Nov 26 2025, 07:17 AM) ROC did not get because because of risk of RedChina spying Singkie is loyal us allyWe dont have this problem. If Sinkie can get F35, no reason RMAF can not get provided we have enough funds. Maybe can get discount also The amount of free stuff the US gave us (long range radar, Boeing drones, patrol aircraft upgrade) we can get it Just need to say the magic words. We act as first line of defense against RedChina F35 is for ally only... Kekwa |
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Nov 25 2025, 11:10 PM) F22 impossible lolEven ally also don't get this Don't dream countingcrows liked this post
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Nov 26 2025, 07:17 AM) ROC did not get because because of risk of RedChina spying We dont have this problem. If Sinkie can get F35, no reason RMAF can not get provided we have enough funds. Maybe can get discount also The amount of free stuff the US gave us (long range radar, Boeing drones, patrol aircraft upgrade) we can get it Just need to say the magic words. We act as first line of defense against RedChina QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 26 2025, 07:26 AM) Even if f35 is offered to rmaf, is unlikely to have allocations from mof. Besides, pn and bn politicians avoid buying from the u.s. |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Nov 25 2025, 05:50 PM) Yes the LCA but the hawk actually can do more which is why the mudmovers is still operating. One of the best decision by the brast aircraft advance air combat with AIM missile firing capabilities. How about postpone 5th Gen purchase until got more choicesMRCA - Multirole Combat Aircraft So they can do all task. Proceed with F15EX as new MRCA. Indon sudah sign MOU so we have a neighbour that can cross support |
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Malaysia need 5th gen jet fighters to fight against a bunch of tree people with sumpits.
Just buy hundreds of Suicide drones lah |
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