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China PhD students can now graduate with products, instead of thesis
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TS30624770
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Nov 24 2025, 06:53 PM, updated 5w ago
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China’s top defence university is piloting a scheme that allows PhD students to graduate with a product or design instead of a thesis in an effort to solve “bottleneck” engineering problems amid the tech race with the United States. Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT) – dubbed one of China’s “Seven Sons of National Defence” because of its contributions to defence research and technology – is exploring new approaches to fostering engineers. These include removing traditional academic papers as a mandatory degree requirement, according to a report by the China Science Daily last week. In September, Wei Lianfeng, an engineer-turned-doctoral candidate, became the university’s first PhD student to successfully pass his oral defence and obtain his degree based solely on practical results. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/art...aIDa_YgYQtcZqtQ
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pobox
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Nov 24 2025, 07:40 PM
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China ni memang suka bikin benda yang lain daripada yang lain
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SUSipohps3
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Nov 24 2025, 07:50 PM
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DarkNite
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Nov 24 2025, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 24 2025, 06:53 PM) China’s top defence university is piloting a scheme that allows PhD students to graduate with a product or design instead of a thesis in an effort to solve “bottleneck” engineering problems amid the tech race with the United States. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT) – dubbed one of China’s “Seven Sons of National Defence” because of its contributions to defence research and technology – is exploring new approaches to fostering engineers. These include removing traditional academic papers as a mandatory degree requirement, according to a report by the China Science Daily last week. In September, Wei Lianfeng, an engineer-turned-doctoral candidate, became the university’s first PhD student to successfully pass his oral defence and obtain his degree based solely on practical results. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/art...aIDa_YgYQtcZqtQMeanwhile in Malaysia,......
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g5sim
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Nov 24 2025, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 24 2025, 07:50 PM) But here we got garbage PhD?? We still win right??
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neutronproton
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Nov 24 2025, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 24 2025, 08:17 PM) But here we got garbage PhD?? We still win right?? here got phd cerita kool storey
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azarimy
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Nov 24 2025, 08:33 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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Well, we already have EngD (Engineering Doctorate) where it combines academic research with real world engineering solutions. So why not product oriented PhD?
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JohnLai
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Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:33 PM) Well, we already have EngD (Engineering Doctorate) where it combines academic research with real world engineering solutions. So why not product oriented PhD? Spirit of invention is long dead. There is no actual inventor any longer. Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation.
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maxpudding
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Nov 24 2025, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM) Spirit of invention is long dead. There is no actual inventor any longer. Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation.  Same thing as your money Your money is actually gomen’s money
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anakkk
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Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM
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while in US, some of the boss never graduated already got product and company running
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azarimy
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Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM) Spirit of invention is long dead. There is no actual inventor any longer. Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation.  Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name. Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing  .
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neutronproton
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Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM) Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name. Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing  . create useless products also can patent, topkek, malaysian academics are too free.
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kopiride
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Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM
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Whao..this is gonna be good. A really good step into the world of practically
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neutronproton
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Nov 24 2025, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM) Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name. Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing  . you can litteraly type bullshit and copyright it
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SUSHasukiiXrd
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Nov 24 2025, 08:55 PM
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Here no need la, we already have xde hap buat Hal culture I'm sure even non Bach ppl can come out of a xde product buat product
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malz89
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Nov 24 2025, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM) create useless products also can patent, topkek, malaysian academics are too free. Well, this applies not only to msia. Now everyone tries to patent anything they can even if the thing they are patenting is useless.
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hjh87
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Nov 24 2025, 09:45 PM
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Haha, meanwhile in Malaysia, some PhDs can graduate based on pure imagination — shit you not.
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i5warior
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Nov 24 2025, 09:46 PM
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Need more money then lol developing product even at prototype will cost a lot depend on scope but could be infinitely better than thesis
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neutronproton
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Nov 24 2025, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 24 2025, 09:40 PM) Well, this applies not only to msia. Now everyone tries to patent anything they can even if the thing they are patenting is useless. yes the difference is things comming out of msia are mostly rubbish while commercial useful products comes mostly from overseas.
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azarimy
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Nov 24 2025, 11:00 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM) create useless products also can patent, topkek, malaysian academics are too free. Shhhh people who never contributed anything and just whine and whine can just shut up lel.
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neutronproton
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Nov 28 2025, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 11:00 PM) Shhhh people who never contributed anything and just whine and whine can just shut up lel. yea, a big assumption with no proof you made there, typical of local subpar academics.
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Chowda
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Nov 28 2025, 03:07 PM
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Makes sense, fields like engineering is more practical based anyway. Focusing on thesis more likely become anjing liar
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Redhunt
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Nov 28 2025, 03:34 PM
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sigh, can please spend less money on trying to kill each other or not ?
This post has been edited by Redhunt: Nov 28 2025, 03:34 PM
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azarimy
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Nov 28 2025, 04:10 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Nov 28 2025, 02:37 PM) yea, a big assumption with no proof you made there, typical of local subpar academics. That's the most insult you can bring after a few days? That's sad.
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neutronproton
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Nov 28 2025, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 28 2025, 04:10 PM) That's the most insult you can bring after a few days? That's sad. Are you that free as an academic? That's why the standard is so low? I am not trying to insult you, local academics are very much capable in insulting themselves.
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azarimy
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Nov 28 2025, 06:06 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Nov 28 2025, 05:13 PM) Are you that free as an academic? That's why the standard is so low? I am not trying to insult you, local academics are very much capable in insulting themselves. Oh I can always find time for some random internet troll.
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