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post Nov 24 2025, 06:53 PM, updated 5w ago

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China’s top defence university is piloting a scheme that allows PhD students to graduate with a product or design instead of a thesis in an effort to solve “bottleneck” engineering problems amid the tech race with the United States.

Harbin Institute of Technology (HIT) – dubbed one of China’s “Seven Sons of National Defence” because of its contributions to defence research and technology – is exploring new approaches to fostering engineers. These include removing traditional academic papers as a mandatory degree requirement, according to a report by the China Science Daily last week.

In September, Wei Lianfeng, an engineer-turned-doctoral candidate, became the university’s first PhD student to successfully pass his oral defence and obtain his degree based solely on practical results.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/art...aIDa_YgYQtcZqtQ
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post Nov 24 2025, 07:40 PM

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China ni memang suka bikin benda yang lain daripada yang lain
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post Nov 24 2025, 07:50 PM

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post Nov 24 2025, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 24 2025, 06:53 PM)
China’s top defence university is piloting a scheme that allows PhD students to graduate with a product or design instead of a thesis in an effort to solve “bottleneck” engineering problems amid the tech race with the United States.

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Meanwhile in Malaysia,......
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 24 2025, 07:50 PM)
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But here we got garbage PhD?? We still win right??
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Nov 24 2025, 08:17 PM)
But here we got garbage PhD?? We still win right??
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here got phd cerita kool storey
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:33 PM

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Well, we already have EngD (Engineering Doctorate) where it combines academic research with real world engineering solutions. So why not product oriented PhD?
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:33 PM)
Well, we already have EngD (Engineering Doctorate) where it combines academic research with real world engineering solutions. So why not product oriented PhD?
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Spirit of invention is long dead.
There is no actual inventor any longer.
Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation. wink.gif

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post Nov 24 2025, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM)
Spirit of invention is long dead.
There is no actual inventor any longer.
Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation. wink.gif
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Same thing as your money

Your money is actually gomen’s money
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM

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while in US, some of the boss never graduated already got product and company running
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Nov 24 2025, 08:38 PM)
Spirit of invention is long dead.
There is no actual inventor any longer.
Anything invented by its owner simply owned by states or corporation. wink.gif
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Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name.

Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing wink.gif.
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM)
Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name.

Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing wink.gif.
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create useless products also can patent, topkek, malaysian academics are too free.
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM

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Whao..this is gonna be good. A really good step into the world of practically
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 24 2025, 08:43 PM)
Well I have 2 patents pending, and several other copyrights under my name.

Sure, I don't know how to commercialize it (yet), but I wont stop designing/inventing wink.gif.
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you can litteraly type bullshit and copyright it
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post Nov 24 2025, 08:55 PM

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Here no need la, we already have xde hap buat Hal culture
I'm sure even non Bach ppl can come out of a xde product buat product
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Nov 24 2025, 08:52 PM)
create useless products also can patent, topkek, malaysian academics are too free.
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Well, this applies not only to msia. Now everyone tries to patent anything they can even if the thing they are patenting is useless.
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:45 PM

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give him phd


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Haha, meanwhile in Malaysia, some PhDs can graduate based on pure imagination — shit you not. brows.gif
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post Nov 24 2025, 09:46 PM

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Need more money then lol developing product even at prototype will cost a lot depend on scope but could be infinitely better than thesis
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Nov 24 2025, 09:40 PM)
Well, this applies not only to msia. Now everyone tries to patent anything they can even if the thing they are patenting is useless.
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yes the difference is things comming out of msia are mostly rubbish while commercial useful products comes mostly from overseas.

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