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steering rack, help
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Nov 16 2025, 12:09 AM, updated 2w ago
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I wanted to replace the oil seal for my steering rack as it is leaking but when i tried disassembling the steering rack i found a 8 point bolt securing the preload. i tried searching inline to buy but couldnt find any for sale. so i chisel it. it tooks 1 hour to chisel 1 full round so i resulted to welding a bolt. but the bolt couldnt stick to it so i am lost whether to just buy a new steering rack.
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Nov 16 2025, 07:02 AM
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Rather go to any aftermarket steering rack restoration shop or aftermarket steering rack brand if like this. Original price for rack is killing for most brand max_cavalera liked this post
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Nov 16 2025, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 16 2025, 07:02 AM) Rather go to any aftermarket steering rack restoration shop or aftermarket steering rack brand if like this. Original price for rack is killing for most brand well i dont like buying recon or aftermarket steering rack as they dont feel the same as the original. i had to change 2 recon steering rack because the handing was tight and dangerous at high speeds. plus nothing is wrong with this rack. the oil seal is just leaking due to not changing the boot. |
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Nov 16 2025, 09:06 PM
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What car is this? My 2 cents worth. The question of whether to get a brand new steering rack or a used/recond unit is very much dependent on two aspects as follows; 1. How long do you intend to keep the car 2. Can you accept a reduced performance and unknown reliability You are quite hands on to be able to change the steering rack of your vehicle yourself. I'm not sure how you can do that as you need a machine to jack the whole vehicle up. To me, only an experienced good mechanic is recommended for this job. My experience with the replacement of the steering rack on my Ford Focus (now sold) is not a pleasant one as it mirrors your experience with the reconditioned unit. Similarly I have gone with a recond steering rack, not once but twice , and both are unreliable. The first one showed minor friction sound when the steering wheel is turned, and it only lasted for about 8 months before it malfunctioned again. The second steering rack showed even louder friction sound when the steering wheel is turned. It just feels like a defective or damaged unit. I sold the car several months later as I don't want to go through the ordeal for the 3rd time. Most if not all recond steering racks are mostly in bad shape or damaged already, and what these workshops do is they just fix them to customers cars. As a result you will get a less perfect handling or performance and some friction noises with short lifespan. It's a safety issue as well depending on the type of vehicle. A faulty steering rack is dangerous when it fails with the Ford Focus. The steering rack can fail when you are driving the car, and when that happens you will not be able to turn the steering wheel easily as it will lock up and turn very stiff. Most young men will still be able to maneuver the vehicle to the side of the road with some effort but most ladies and seniors will not be able to turn the steering wheel and when that happens the vehicle will stop in the middle of the road. My advice is to go for a new steering rack is you can afford it even though it is expensive. A new steering rack for the Ford Focus used to be above RM10k, outside workshop was selling at 9.8k and the price went down to 7.5k the last time I inquired. If you can't afford a new steering rack, at least look for an experienced and reputable mechanic which can fix it nicely for you. However, it's not about the mechanic but the availability of these recond or used steering racks as most of the time they are hard to come by. Usually it's the bad mechanics or workshops which have stocks of these poor condition or damaged units while the good mechanics may not have stocks. It's about timing as well. This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Nov 16 2025, 09:10 PM capyjohn liked this post
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Nov 16 2025, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 16 2025, 09:06 PM) What car is this? My 2 cents worth. The question of whether to get a brand new steering rack or a used/recond unit is very much dependent on two aspects as follows; above 10k? That's insane. Price for my sonata steering rack is just 1.6k original1. How long do you intend to keep the car 2. Can you accept a reduced performance and unknown reliability You are quite hands on to be able to change the steering rack of your vehicle yourself. I'm not sure how you can do that as you need a machine to jack the whole vehicle up. To me, only an experienced good mechanic is recommended for this job. My experience with the replacement of the steering rack on my Ford Focus (now sold) is not a pleasant one as it mirrors your experience with the reconditioned unit. Similarly I have gone with a recond steering rack, not once but twice , and both are unreliable. The first one showed minor friction sound when the steering wheel is turned, and it only lasted for about 8 months before it malfunctioned again. The second steering rack showed even louder friction sound when the steering wheel is turned. It just feels like a defective or damaged unit. I sold the car several months later as I don't want to go through the ordeal for the 3rd time. Most if not all recond steering racks are mostly in bad shape or damaged already, and what these workshops do is they just fix them to customers cars. As a result you will get a less perfect handling or performance and some friction noises with short lifespan. It's a safety issue as well depending on the type of vehicle. A faulty steering rack is dangerous when it fails with the Ford Focus. The steering rack can fail when you are driving the car, and when that happens you will not be able to turn the steering wheel easily as it will lock up and turn very stiff. Most young men will still be able to maneuver the vehicle to the side of the road with some effort but most ladies and seniors will not be able to turn the steering wheel and when that happens the vehicle will stop in the middle of the road. My advice is to go for a new steering rack is you can afford it even though it is expensive. A new steering rack for the Ford Focus used to be above RM10k, outside workshop was selling at 9.8k and the price went down to 7.5k the last time I inquired. If you can't afford a new steering rack, at least look for an experienced and reputable mechanic which can fix it nicely for you. However, it's not about the mechanic but the availability of these recond or used steering racks as most of the time they are hard to come by. Usually it's the bad mechanics or workshops which have stocks of these poor condition or damaged units while the good mechanics may not have stocks. It's about timing as well. |
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Nov 17 2025, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Nov 16 2025, 09:53 PM) Well, that's a reason why the resale value of the Ford is so low. The steering rack of the Ford Focus is one of the costliest part to replace. The reconditioned (used) steering rack which I installed on the Ford Focus mk3 at RM2.5k is costlier than the new steering rack of your Sonata. I didn't know new steering racks can be so cheap though. I paid close to RM3k for the second used steering rack before I sold the car away. If I could turn back time, I would have gone with a new steering rack although it costs close to RM10k back then, the cheapest quoted price I could find. Having said that, it all happened for a reason and I'm glad the events had caused an early disposal of the vehicle. |
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Nov 17 2025, 07:47 AM
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Before I forget, unscrupulous workshops which deal with used or reconditioned steering racks such as the one I went to previously do not care much about quality and have poor work ethics. All they want is just money, that's all. For the 2nd steering rack replacement, they not only fixed a poor condition unit in my vehicle but a different model from another car to mine. My car is the Ford Focus mk3 but they took a steering rack from the Focus ST which is a different model and fixed it in my car. I only found out when I brought my car to my regular Ford specialist workshop for the routine maintenance. The experienced boss there showed me the difference - the steering wheel on the Focus mk3 has a 1 1/2 turn while the one on the Focus ST only has 1 turn. It's just terrible what these workshops can do as they couldn't care less about fixing a wrong unit on customers' vehicles.
In summary, as what I 've mentioned earlier, go for NEW steering rack for peace of mind. If you can't afford it, look for experienced and reliable workshop or mechanics which have stocks of used/reconditioned steering racks, though it's easier said than done as most good workshops only deal with new parts and not used/reconditioned parts. |
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Nov 17 2025, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 17 2025, 07:22 AM) Well, that's a reason why the resale value of the Ford is so low. The steering rack of the Ford Focus is one of the costliest part to replace. The reconditioned (used) steering rack which I installed on the Ford Focus mk3 at RM2.5k is costlier than the new steering rack of your Sonata. I didn't know new steering racks can be so cheap though. I paid close to RM3k for the second used steering rack before I sold the car away. If I could turn back time, I would have gone with a new steering rack although it costs close to RM10k back then, the cheapest quoted price I could find. Having said that, it all happened for a reason and I'm glad the events had caused an early disposal of the vehicle. I got mine from vanli auto parts. It is amazing how much margin workshops charge if you go through them. I'll just go directly to auto parts importer/distributor next time. ayamxxx liked this post
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Nov 17 2025, 09:59 AM
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Bro, just sent to steering rack repairer kaotim, they got plenty of special tooling to open these steering rack why the hassle? Just google steering rack repairer nearby or in facebook also can search few.
Regarding the bolt you ask machinist to custom made 1 tool also more cheaper then buying new steering rack. Most nut or rack nowadays are made from aluminum or cast composition, you cant weld using normal welding rod, you need special or similar material rod to weld. |
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Nov 17 2025, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 17 2025, 09:59 AM) Bro, just sent to steering rack repairer kaotim, they got plenty of special tooling to open these steering rack why the hassle? Just google steering rack repairer nearby or in facebook also can search few. same idea. and best to find those workshop/ steering rack specialists that are reputable or recommended or got good feedback from Google reviews. Rack can be repaired, same goes to Alternator, instead buy new at crazy price (for conti) can send restore and good as new back, can use 5 years without issue.Regarding the bolt you ask machinist to custom made 1 tool also more cheaper then buying new steering rack. Most nut or rack nowadays are made from aluminum or cast composition, you cant weld using normal welding rod, you need special or similar material rod to weld. |
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Nov 17 2025, 03:54 PM
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Had leaky oil seals at different parts on 3 of my cars; wira, BLM and honda. All 3 were solved by using rubber restorer called ATP AT-205 Re-Seal. INM, now it has been bought over by Lubegard and renamed to Seal Fixx.
Using it was simple, just mix a capful (estimated) of it into the PSF/ATF reservoir, and let the rubber restorer work its magic for a few days. If it is still weeping a little, add half a cap more. On BLM and Wira, it was the seals at PS pump that began leak. On honda, it was the PS hose crimps, well known to fail with age. |
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Nov 17 2025, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 17 2025, 03:54 PM) Had leaky oil seals at different parts on 3 of my cars; wira, BLM and honda. All 3 were solved by using rubber restorer called ATP AT-205 Re-Seal. INM, now it has been bought over by Lubegard and renamed to Seal Fixx. will not contaminate other fluids ?Using it was simple, just mix a capful (estimated) of it into the PSF/ATF reservoir, and let the rubber restorer work its magic for a few days. If it is still weeping a little, add half a cap more. On BLM and Wira, it was the seals at PS pump that began leak. On honda, it was the PS hose crimps, well known to fail with age. |
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Nov 17 2025, 11:31 PM
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Nov 18 2025, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 17 2025, 11:31 PM) It is sold under Ee lee auto. Got original and there sell oem like hl mando also. Then again, how can one be hundred percent sure?You can visit their fb page or physical shop at jln ipoh and tell me this ori or oem. https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1075864...075864604546533 This post has been edited by guest54321: Nov 18 2025, 12:51 AM |
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Nov 18 2025, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Nov 18 2025, 12:39 AM) It is sold under Ee lee auto. Got original and there sell oem like hl mando also. Then again, how can one be hundred percent sure? That picture is showing the shock absorber, not steering rack. Is this the part you have replaced on your car? The steering rack is different. You can visit their fb page or physical shop at jln ipoh and tell me this ori or oem. https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1075864...075864604546533 With the Ford Focus, there is an electronic or ECU box attached together with the steering rack as a complete piece of equipment. If the electronics inside that box are damaged, the whole steering rack would not work anymore. The picture below shows the steering rack for the Ford Focus mk3. ![]() |
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Nov 18 2025, 07:38 AM
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Another picture showing a used/reconditioned steering rack. Most if not all of these steering racks are in poor shape or damaged condition, likely salvaged from accident vehicles, and what the workshops which are in the steering rack business do is they will salvage these parts and fix them to customers' vehicles. It's not recommended to go with these used/reconditioned steering racks unless one is looking to quickly sell the car after fixing these parts on the vehicle.
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Nov 18 2025, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 18 2025, 07:23 AM) That picture is showing the shock absorber, not steering rack. Is this the part you have replaced on your car? The steering rack is different. Yes, I know that's a shock absorber. Just trying to show the other member some of the products advertised as genuine. In fact, they do carry a lot of stuffs not shown in their social media. With the Ford Focus, there is an electronic or ECU box attached together with the steering rack as a complete piece of equipment. If the electronics inside that box are damaged, the whole steering rack would not work anymore. The picture below shows the steering rack for the Ford Focus mk3. The steering rack that I got doesn't have that control unit. I think most steering racks come without it. |
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Nov 18 2025, 07:56 AM
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I'm not sure what are the symptoms when the steering rack begins to show signs of failure with other cars, whether they can still be driven like normal although the driver detects a peculiar or strange behaviour with the vehicle which may be contributed by a defective steering rack, or a steering rack which is about to fail.
With the Ford Focus, there are no signs. What you will get is a message like this which appears on the screen, and when you get this message, you won't be able to turn the steering wheel of the vehicle anymore. In other words, you can't control or drive the car already. The danger is it can happen when you are driving the car on the road at say 100km/h and the message suddenly comes up and you can't turn the steering wheel. Just imagine the danger of it. Well, I'm exaggerating a little with not being able to turn the steering wheel. One may still be able to turn the steering wheel but some strength from the arms would be required to accomplish this as the steering wheel will turn very stiff. Most ladies and seniors who are unable to manouvre the vehicle to the side of the road would be forced to leave it in the middle of the road whenever this steering assist malfunctions. ![]() This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Nov 18 2025, 07:57 AM |
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Nov 18 2025, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Nov 18 2025, 07:55 AM) Yes, I know that's a shock absorber. Just trying to show the other member some of the products advertised as genuine. In fact, they do carry a lot of stuffs not shown in their social media. Right, thanks for the clarification. That explains it. I'm not sure about other cars where the steering rack may be repaired as suggested by other people here. With the Ford Focus, it's not repairable and the only way is to replace the whole piece.The steering rack that I got doesn't have that control unit. I think most steering racks come without it. |
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Nov 18 2025, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 18 2025, 07:56 AM) I'm not sure what are the symptoms when the steering rack begins to show signs of failure with other cars, whether they can still be driven like normal although the driver detects a peculiar or strange behaviour with the vehicle which may be contributed by a defective steering rack, or a steering rack which is about to fail. Blame the auto manufacturer.With the Ford Focus, there are no signs. What you will get is a message like this which appears on the screen, and when you get this message, you won't be able to turn the steering wheel of the vehicle anymore. In other words, you can't control or drive the car already. The danger is it can happen when you are driving the car on the road at say 100km/h and the message suddenly comes up and you can't turn the steering wheel. Just imagine the danger of it. Well, I'm exaggerating a little with not being able to turn the steering wheel. One may still be able to turn the steering wheel but some strength from the arms would be required to accomplish this as the steering wheel will turn very stiff. Most ladies and seniors who are unable to manouvre the vehicle to the side of the road would be forced to leave it in the middle of the road whenever this steering assist malfunctions. ![]() It is just part of the scam with the industry as a whole. They made the power steering electric and attached it together with the steering rack. When we had hydraulic power steering, everything is separated and can be replaced separately. |
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