graphic card prices also affected because of it



u want to seek refuge with the slower ddr5 kits, those got jacked up as well

i see pc partpicker price history and my recent purchase in august. so barely escaped

bought 2 kits. 1 for my truenas and another for desktop pc. so i'm good for many years now


malaysia is also doing the AI stuff including providing power for it



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 14 2025, 02:59 PM

Can build a couple around Bakun dam, finally got some use now

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Nov 14 2025, 10:37 PM

buy now or wait? watch

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 15 2025, 10:40 AM

if u didnt watch any of the ddr5 news, i recommend watching this one at least. covers the whole story



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 17 2025, 08:54 AM

planning to build a new pc soon-ish. just wondering if the RAM prices here are also affected or not

i compared the prices for the 32 gb kit i bought a few months ago and the prices now. So yes. malaysia affected

so although most of those youtube vids reference amazon prices, but for shopee which most of you use, yes the price hike was noticeable there as well.

i don't know if prices on aliexpress were jacked or not. i order mine from local from reputable seller in case later need warranty.


for a gaming pc, i strongly recommend minimum 32gig (16gb x 2) kit.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 19 2025, 11:27 AM

ah man that sucks. 32gb klevv ones are still around the same prices but holy shit the kingston and corsair ones are over 1k thats insane.

even if u wanted to get a slower ram thinking u can get better prices, seems that wont save u much either.

if u really really need to upgrade, then just cough up the money (what choice do u have?). if not, i dont know how long u will need to wait. a while back, ram prices were high for quite a long time, and only many many years later did prices become saner again. so i sus it will be like that, or maybe not. problem is the AI data centers to be blamed for this

may want to test ur ram that no issues. 24 hours? or 3 days? should be more than sufficient. the default 4 pass test is not long enough for a proper test





This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 19 2025, 12:20 PM

i haven't looked around yet but have a feeling soon sellers will start bundling RAM with mobo + proc, just like how they did with some proc and gpu when first released. Some overseas retailers already start doing this

When global price hikes, Msia are immediately affected (even tho stocks are from pre hikes)
When global price drops, Msia will take the longest time to drop bcoz dstros say its stocks were bought when price here high.
This is Msia and this AI datacenter bubble wont burst so soon like crypto.

If your planning something soon, buy DDR5 RAM, SSD/HDD, maybe even GPU right now, as these are going up and up and still climbing by the day.

Supposedly if you just turn on XMP/EXPO and it just runs then it normally should no problems but if you do RAM tuning or see some instability you should do a thorough testing.

Here is what I did for mine RAM tuning https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=109967018

using AIDA64, MemTest86, TestMem5 with 1usmus, Absolut & Extreme profiles (yes 3 times), HCI MemtestPro & Intel BurnTest(can use for AMD too), OCCT RAM test (most hardest to pass), Windows Memory Diagnostics, Intel XTU RAM test(for Intel system). Even then after all pass I still had occasional glitch in Windows that went away when I up TRAS by 1. It was that edge case sensitive.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Nov 19 2025, 06:35 PM

actually i found this kingston with my motherboard very good

KINGSTON FURY BEAST 32GB (2X16GB) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL30 AMD EXPO RAM - KF560C30BBEK2-32

MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk Wifi


In the reviews this combination of motherboard and ram kit was very stable. I even put setting to tightest no issue. But i kept it at 6000 mhz.

For bios i also did undervolt with PBO enabled. all cores undervolt -20 (-30 was instant crash. but -20 stable for many months no issues even during loads. tested with OCCT and the other benchmark)

that said the wifi drivers for this msi motherboard including the NIC ethernet 5g is BAD. so i can't recommend this particular motherboard to others

Surprising you have wifi problems as its using Qualcomm NCM865 wifi/BT chipset which is the best that AM5 can get (since Intel better Wifi7 module only works with Intel mobo). And yes its more the wifi brand thats causing problems rather than mobo (unless your talking about accessing features from bios). If it works poorly for you I doubt other mobos with the crappier Realtek wifi chipset can do better.

i did a dump log, i specifically flagged the qualcom fastconnect drivers for the motherboard wifi causing bsod crash after waking from sleep.

at one point i managed to get it to work without crashing, with the driver installed.

but now it's back to crashing after i removed old drivers causing errors in event viewer (different drivers, not the wifi). So after that, the wifi drivers starts bugging out again. a bit frustrating






bluetooth still works at least. for wired, i bought an addon card for sfp+ 10g, i use fiber to my switch. So i bypass the bad 5gbe realtek nic.

the particular motherboard also doesn't do x8 and x16 for the spare pcie slots. so i had to buy a sfp+ pcie x4 that worked on this motherboard. I tested a sfp+ pcie x8, that didn't work.

some people said the X870E for this tomahawk is more stable, but i donno, since i don't have it.


anyway as for ram, on hardware unboxed they did a bunch of testing comparing how well ram ran on those motherboards. this x870 tomahawk got the ddr5-8000 expo validation to pass. I don't use 8000 but they did the test saying it would work with this motherboard, so thats how well ddr5 would work with it is what i meant.




oo this motherboard people also complained aboit the audio dac being not the best. but i use edifier usb speakers which uses it's own internal dac, so that's how i bypassed that particular issue. i heard though that the latest realtek audio drivers solved whatever audio issue it had. i just didn't confirm it myself.


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Nov 20 2025, 06:56 AM

"flagged the qualcom fastconnect drivers for the motherboard wifi"
Thats on Qualcomm tho. I believe their driver stack isnt playing well with others, of course you should run with drivers installed. I did heard network implementation on Ryzen isnt as smooth as on Intel, but at least your not facing the more problems with Realtek or Mediatek chipsets.

For Ryzen I see less point going higher than 6200/6400 even as your IF ratio will go to heck. Whatmore X3D isnt as sensitive to mem speeds but latency so it more beneficial to keep IF 1:1 and do RAM tuning to lower CL timings.

Its audio chip is not bad, mid range level. But then theres no onboard audio will suit audiophiles (this is true since when audio started integrating on mobos).

after 7 hours, my 32GB DDR4 stick got 106 errors.

planning something but after seeing those ram prices, might as well build am4 and wait until it goes back to normal. might not be able to recover so fast since all storage are at low stock will take years to

Rocketlake well known to have poor IMC to RAM, even poorer than previous gen Cometlake. 32GB DDR4 indicates either 16GB sticks or 4x 8GB, both which lean heavy on CPU IMC, so you will have to reduce RAM bus speed or try loosen timings. Otherwise it may be hardware failure.

FYI my 12700 nonK 32GB DDR4 took less than 4hrs to complete.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Nov 20 2025, 04:01 PM

DDR4 prices also getting ridiculous as due to the rise of RAM prices plus the phasing out of DDR4 production. I think new chips only Samsung doing now, every others have switch to DDR5.

Imho buy the cheapest DDR5 6000 CL30 32GB kit right now you can find and lock in the while you build the rest of your system. You might also wanna get a decent cheap SSD (or a throaway Gen3 1TB SSD as temporary) cause SSD prices will go up next.

i already have 2 SSDs that i will be bringing over. some generic skhynix one from laptop and a samsung 980pro. only aiming to be a 2tb hdd. as for am4 or am5 honestly not sure, the 5700x3d is still expensive and i was aiming for the 7700