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Mezlin90
post Oct 30 2025, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 30 2025, 11:02 AM)
This is another pond and is now full of glass. I dunno what glass is this and if I can take some and throw to other ponds
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This pond has about 3-5 feets deep and very big. Then the glass grow from beginning till the end until you can't see the water anymore.
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Think i'm fortunate enough in my case that the closest main road from my farmland is roughly several kilometres away, requiring an off-road vehicle to gain entry.

One method is that you can leave it as it is, TS? That'll bring some wildlife in and may deter trespassers. But if you do visit the place regularly, then have no choice: typical electrical fence + signs to deter them from entering or hire a groundskeep.

Trying to go with lethal force means is highly troublesome. I went down that route once. (Eg. previous groundskeep fucked up the situation, I took over his work holistically as the farmland steader, then I GET warned instead with coercion of jail + fine) not worth it IMHO.
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post Oct 30 2025, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 30 2025, 08:12 PM)
The bold part - I dont understand. You meant you gave warning to the trepassers and then you got warned and jail+fine?
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My previous groundskeep had a firearm. Specifically for deterring wild animal (we have families of wild boars and boa constrictors typically 2m long, etc) some things happened and for some reason, shots were fired into the air. But not in the hands of groundskeep's hand, it's from ANOTHER person in the scuffle.

Suffice to say the lawyer fought tooth and nail and lengthy court time for half a year (this is mid 2023 to 2024. Lengthy process). And since the weapon is tied to the farmland rather than the person, I was the legal successor to handle it since im the farmsteader.

So I swag around my farmland with it slung behind my back, never used it. Never loaded, Never primed. But it was on my back. Some days, some rando druggies come and despite our warning on trespassing AND electrical fence, they overcome those (they literally PUT selimut on the fences, weigh it down and climb over), and these druggies bring weapons. Machete and such.

I was at the front of the conflict. I had the weapon on my back. No punches or brawls, just heated argument and 'mak kau hijau' and 'induk kau janek' kind of insults when finally the police + civil defense come. Remarkably the druggies were let go with stern warning and I get detained instead.

in my OWN farm, in which I did NOTHING. I WAS 'guilty'. Why? Because the firearm happened to be on my back.

So it ended with more time wasted on court and the firearm confiscated, and now and then I have issue with one of the rookie members whenever we meet at nearby town just because of that incident.

According to an insider from my family lawyer, just because of prior court issue before o gained the firearm they already flag it internally and keep record of any incident. So when it's time even at the slimmest of opportunity, some of these police branches would actively confiscate it to make things easy for their paperwork.

Edit: fixing some sentence. It was a long day laugh.gif

Edit edit: fixing some more. Bear with me, sirs.

This post has been edited by Mezlin90: Oct 30 2025, 08:54 PM
Mezlin90
post Oct 30 2025, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 30 2025, 09:43 PM)
Your case is more complicated than me.

That is why, the world is unfair and good person is treated this way. Same as me, I own the land but outsiders come in to do their stuff as what they like and ignored all warnings. But we can't do anything to settle them down and terpaksa to telan our air liur from mouth to the perut.
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Agree 100%. Not to be a downer but this is pretty much ethnocentricism and oppression is all around, and sometimes some puak DESERVES MORE than a SLAP because they dont know how complacent and granted they are in their life compared to others.

Now I only have a over-modded dart zone / monkeemods' worker blaster on my back to deter lizards. But if some janek tunggal the size of a moped comes along, no foam dart can help me with that laugh.gif

That said... Maybe you should try CCTV, TS? TP-link Tapo series have solar powered types, and I actually use these in my farmland and linked to an outdoor wifi booster. Worth a try to keep surveillance on your land when you're not there.

Either that, or up your defenses some more with multiple electricity fences. It's your property, and despite trespassing, damage can still be considered minimal. Worth the time to try and experiment.
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post Oct 30 2025, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 30 2025, 10:10 PM)
i have several CCTVs installed and that why I know what they are doing daily from day to night.

Unfortunately, I dont have police friends to backup me. Else, it is much more easy to settle my issue (actually not my own created issue, but someone that creates for other without knowing they created)
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Have you ever confronted them? A bit on the tough side, but if a stern warning doesn't deter them then having an aggressive dog or two like others suggested would ease your mind, after meeting them and knowing their disposition and their respect to your property in person. Let them deal with the pain, lesson learned.

But in this respect, i'm worried if the dog gets the other end of the stick instead. hmm.gif then you should get 3-5, dont settle on one!

A more long-winded but potentially fruitful for you in future, bring it up with the locals and the community. Maybe in a way, they can help you deter the usual suspects in your stead.

Worth a try either way.
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post Nov 1 2025, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Oct 31 2025, 04:22 PM)
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this as well
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 31 2025, 04:32 PM)
they dont scare one.

I believe so far no one has brought up trespassers to the court or legal case.
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Reminds me of one time when I was going through the old road from melaka to Port dickson, one of the Sime Darby Guthrie plantation land had their DJI Agras drone being potshot target practice by the local brats with their slingshots.

That thing costs 60k and above per unit, I think?

You'd have to wonder what was in their mind at the time; do they not aware of how expensive it is? No wait- do they not even AWARE that it's someone else's drone they're FAFO-ing about?

Guess in your case TS, you have to go the hard and laborious way. No choice there sad.gif

If the community ain't helping, elevate to court level as per other's replies and advise on this thread.

Also, maybe different by state or district but in my case, it's easier for me to get a swift response from the civil defense compared to the local police.

Had a case at my farm where one of the workers mistaken a lost water buffalo calf to a babi hutan. Called the civdef and less than an hour (40 mins maybe?) they came over, four of them in a fully equipped head-to-toe and a truck that is meant to handle a more dangerous target. They didn't even berate us for the mistake, just gave them a jug of hot tea for their trouble coming over. smile.gif

 

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