All the best and don't give up! You will land one eventually
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I Feel Suicidal 40, male, zero experience, young-at-heart, why do I feel miss read and out of sync?
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Sep 29 2025, 08:44 PM
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Continue meeting people through the dating apps, you might just find one who has been focused on career and is looking to settle down. Like a forumer above said, discuss what you're looking for before meeting up or at the first date itself to save you the trouble. If both are willing to work on the differences to move forward, you are already on the right path. All the best and don't give up! You will land one eventually This post has been edited by silverwave: Sep 29 2025, 08:44 PM Fabrication liked this post
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Sep 29 2025, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 29 2025, 04:59 PM) Do I hate my current self? No. I’m content and still growing Would I date me? Yes! Growth areas: firmer boundaries and shorter explanations. What I’m looking for Warm, respectful, low-drama partner who wants long-term and teamwork. (And no, I’m not looking in clubs.) This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 29 2025, 09:02 PM |
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Sep 29 2025, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 29 2025, 05:28 PM) Thanks for asking the hard questions Positive so far—it’s just a matter of translating the thought into action. Genuinely welcome any blind-spot checks On time & age You’re right about the math. My philosophy is different: raising children isn’t about them taking care of me later. I don’t believe in “养儿防老” Even with my precious fur daughter (dog), I raise her well because I love her, not expect a return in the future. On job stability You’re right about job stability isn’t permanent, I have seen a lot in my career. My philosophy is different: I’ve been a bit of a workaholic and, being single, I’ve saved aggressively. If I lose my job, I’ll be okay. That said, I still plan for downturns rather than assuming they won’t happen On “burdening” a younger partner You’re right about a partner isn’t a life jacket. It’s someone to share life with. My philosophy is different: We are in different life stages, but my stability gives me flexibility to shoulder more when needed Eg. I’d actively encourage and support her pursuing her career dreams if that’s important to her this could be discussed upfront, but having flexibility, I can do more in life to support the unexpected On being “me-centered” Point taken. My philosophy is different: Live my way, keep personality without losing responsibility I’m young at heart, not casual about consequences. I’d rather be upfront and move intentionally than rush into something romantic now that reads like a warning later. If we were not happy, could not come to an agreement, the trade-offs don’t add up, that simply means we’re not a match, and I’ll walk away If you spot gaps in this framework, I’m open to concrete tweaks One more possible hidden setback from the girl’s point of view: if you are already in your 40s, it’s very likely that her parents-in-law will already be quite old. After marriage, the responsibility of caring for them may immediately fall on the wife. This could feel like a contradiction to the very point of not “burdening” a younger partner. This is a question I think many couples may never have the chance to discuss. Come, let’s see—what is your philosophy in addressing it? |
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QUOTE(nihility @ Sep 29 2025, 10:18 PM) Positive so far—it’s just a matter of translating the thought into action. parents-in-law = my parents?One more possible hidden setback from the girl’s point of view: if you are already in your 40s, it’s very likely that her parents-in-law will already be quite old. After marriage, the responsibility of caring for them may immediately fall on the wife. This could feel like a contradiction to the very point of not “burdening” a younger partner. This is a question I think many couples may never have the chance to discuss. Come, let’s see—what is your philosophy in addressing it? sad or good, there is nothing to worry |
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Sep 29 2025, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 29 2025, 08:28 PM) I’m not here to prove myself I literally showed you the behaviorI am an engineer, I know what net worth is If you see something concrete, name the behavior and I’ll address it. Otherwise, let’s skip the projections Look at how that person is talking, not what he is saying. Especially the last bit.. you're giving off similar vibes. Saying feel good words, without anything backing those words, just feels like empty talk. Remember, you're the one who said you're being labeled immature. Not idealistic, not fun, but immature. People usually associate youthfulness with fun, and idealism with naivety, but neither of which are typically seen as immature, especially when you seemingly have the mature aspects of adulthood nailed down. Just like people who call themselves "nice guys" normally aren't really nice guys, saying you're "young at heart" doesn't mean you are. There's something else signalling immaturity to other people. |
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Sep 29 2025, 10:35 PM
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Sep 29 2025, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 29 2025, 10:29 PM) I literally showed you the behavior I’m not here to prove assets/net worth—that’s off-topicLook at how that person is talking, not what he is saying. Especially the last bit.. you're giving off similar vibes. Saying feel good words, without anything backing those words, just feels like empty talk. Remember, you're the one who said you're being labeled immature. Not idealistic, not fun, but immature. People usually associate youthfulness with fun, and idealism with naivety, but neither of which are typically seen as immature, especially when you seemingly have the mature aspects of adulthood nailed down. Just like people who call themselves "nice guys" normally aren't really nice guys, saying you're "young at heart" doesn't mean you are. There's something else signalling immaturity to other people. I used their word “immature” because that’s the label I’ve heard—not because I think playfulness = immaturity. For clarity: I used to over-explain instead of setting short, clear boundaries. That’s why I listed my growth areas as firmer boundaries and shorter explanations. That’s what I’m practicing now. On “young at heart”: I’m describing temperament (playful/optimistic) plus adult follow-through—not a slogan If something else reads as immature, please quote the exact line so I can address it This post has been edited by Fabrication: Sep 29 2025, 10:55 PM |
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Sep 29 2025, 10:47 PM
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Oh it took me like 2 years+ to find her ya and it was because I gave her flower (being a paid customer let me gift flower). If I was not paying customer yeah I won't meet her at all. TOS2, Skylinestar, and 1 other liked this post
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Hi, TS. From what I've read, I get the feeling that you understand life's complexities, but you choose not to dwell on them too much because your philosophy is to keep things simple and remain positive. That makes you young at heart. You don’t hold grudges or take on unnecessary burdens, but you plan and act wisely when needed. You have the brain and body of a man, but the heart of a boy. That’s a precious quality because it isn’t easy to meet men who maintain their youthfulness in middle age.
When it comes to dating, some women will value you exactly as you are, while others may expect you to turn up as a serious man who only does serious talks upfront. In those cases, it’s less about you being “immature” and more about a mismatch in expectations. Some people equate seriousness with age and life experience, so your youthful vibe might not align with them, but that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with you. The key is finding someone whose energy complements yours, someone who appreciates your optimism and lightness while respecting your steadiness and integrity. You don’t need to change who you are. Just be clear about your intentions early, act consistently, and let your values shine through. That combination usually signals maturity far more than a solemn or overly serious demeanour ever could. Of course, when it comes to serious talks about commitments like marriage, family, children, and retirement, that’s the time to shift gears, plan carefully, and show your partner that you can balance youthful energy with practical responsibility. |
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Sep 29 2025, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 29 2025, 10:46 PM) I’m not here to prove assets/net worth—that’s off-topic Why are you still stuck on this? I'm asking you to look at that person's behavior, the networth topic is irrelevant. QUOTE I used their word “immature” because that’s the label I’ve heard—not because I think playfulness = immaturity. I know, that's why they didn't label you fun/playful. They labelled you immature. QUOTE On “young at heart”: I’m describing temperament (playful/optimistic) plus adult follow-through—not a slogan You said in your first post that you're being labeled immature because you're young at heart. I'm telling you, that is not why you're being called immature. QUOTE If something else reads as immature, please quote the exact line so I can address it I can already see why people think you're immature, this quoted line is the perfect example. Can you see the immaturity in it? |
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 29 2025, 10:25 PM) Yes, your parent. Every answer is a valid answer—even no answer is still an answer.The earlier highlights mainly outlined the disadvantages of marrying late and having a large age gap. I believe that for informed decision-making, both the pros and cons must be made known. That said, having a different opinion does not mean being totally against the idea. Each of us walks a different path. Pointing out the “sinkholes” ahead does not mean the listener must take a detour or that the road cannot be crossed. What the present or past generation could not achieve does not mean the future generation cannot. They may “jump” over, “fly” over, or “float” over the sinkhole. The most important thing is this: once the potential risks are made known, if we choose that path, we must be accountable for whatever outcome comes our way. The true misery in life lies in making choices without considering the consequences—and in refusing to accept the outcome, even when we knew clearly where that choice would lead. So, I sincerely wish you the best. Fabrication liked this post
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that's a better scenario if you could appear immature sometimes and loosely goofy cause most people in their later age are stiff as fuck when it comes to personality bring the aliveness and energy onto the exterior It's one of the ways for you to be enlightened and flow no sexual history is fine because if you truly enjoy your own accompany, girls will want to fuck you it's inevitable the matter is when you open this thread you already pre programmed to be a judgmental person and nobody wants to associate themselves with a highly judgemental person It's okay to be self introspective but over analyzing without taking much actions is pretty senseless If you want to be success with women go out and take multiple actions face your fears, insecurities and come to a newer conclusion This post has been edited by -mystery-: Sep 30 2025, 10:54 AM Fabrication liked this post
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QUOTE(Ralna @ Sep 29 2025, 11:14 PM) Hi, TS. From what I've read, I get the feeling that you understand life's complexities, but you choose not to dwell on them too much because your philosophy is to keep things simple and remain positive. That makes you young at heart. You don’t hold grudges or take on unnecessary burdens, but you plan and act wisely when needed. You have the brain and body of a man, but the heart of a boy. That’s a precious quality because it isn’t easy to meet men who maintain their youthfulness in middle age. Thank you, this really resonates. You captured my intent better than I did: keep life simple and positive, but plan and act wisely when it matters. I appreciate you seeing the “heart of a boy, steadiness of a man” as a strength. That’s just who I amWhen it comes to dating, some women will value you exactly as you are, while others may expect you to turn up as a serious man who only does serious talks upfront. In those cases, it’s less about you being “immature” and more about a mismatch in expectations. Some people equate seriousness with age and life experience, so your youthful vibe might not align with them, but that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with you. The key is finding someone whose energy complements yours, someone who appreciates your optimism and lightness while respecting your steadiness and integrity. You don’t need to change who you are. Just be clear about your intentions early, act consistently, and let your values shine through. That combination usually signals maturity far more than a solemn or overly serious demeanour ever could. Of course, when it comes to serious talks about commitments like marriage, family, children, and retirement, that’s the time to shift gears, plan carefully, and show your partner that you can balance youthful energy with practical responsibility. Ralna liked this post
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Sep 29 2025, 11:17 PM) Why are you still stuck on this? ok, i do over-explain thing sometimesI'm asking you to look at that person's behavior, the networth topic is irrelevant. I know, that's why they didn't label you fun/playful. They labelled you immature. You said in your first post that you're being labeled immature because you're young at heart. I'm telling you, that is not why you're being called immature. I can already see why people think you're immature, this quoted line is the perfect example. Can you see the immaturity in it? |
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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Sep 30 2025, 10:52 AM) that's a better scenario if you could appear immature sometimes and loosely goofy cause most people in their later age are stiff as fuck when it comes to personality Appreciate the encouragementbring the aliveness and energy onto the exterior It's one of the ways for you to be enlightened and flow no sexual history is fine because if you truly enjoy your own accompany, girls will want to fuck you it's inevitable the matter is when you open this thread you already pre programmed to be a judgmental person and nobody wants to associate themselves with a highly judgemental person It's okay to be self introspective but over analyzing without taking much actions is pretty senseless If you want to be success with women go out and take multiple actions face your fears, insecurities and come to a newer conclusion I opened this to check my blind spots and get grounded feedback. I’m taking action, keeping the vibe light, and staying clear about my intentions. Here’s to meeting my “her” when the fit and timing are right |
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Sep 30 2025, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 30 2025, 05:53 PM) That's not the issue, its a small part of an issue but if you fix your core problems it will no longer be an issue. QUOTE(Fabrication @ Sep 30 2025, 06:02 PM) I opened this to check my blind spots and get grounded feedback. I’m taking action, keeping the vibe light, and staying clear about my intentions. Here’s to meeting my “her” when the fit and timing are right So far, I'm the only one who's actually highlighting your blind spots, but you refuse to address it. Its as though you cannot accept/see yourself in a negative light, you need to somehow put a positive spin on it e.g. "I'm not immature, I'm young at heart" or "i do <negative thing> sometimes". Just like that guy in the video I linked. I even point blank, quoted your sentence and pointed that the immaturity is apparent in the sentence; asked you if you could see it, and you completely ignored it and chose to deflect with "I over-explain sometimes" which had nothing to do with what I asked you. Do you see the problem? |
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