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hoonanoo
post Sep 22 2025, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 22 2025, 07:54 AM)
So yesterday after church I went to lunch with friend. He told me that his wife and him are in rough patch. It was so bad that he had a meltdown and went bat shit crazy. What trigger the meltdown was years of bottling emotion and stress. He have no family, his mother is biased towards him as the rest of his siblings are more successful. His family went to family dinner once a month at the sister's house, and no one invited him. So the only family he have now is his wife and kids, and he put all his soul into it. He mentioned that when we had a meltdown, his daughter was scared and cried, and that stopped his meltdown instantly, but after that he went drive somewhere alone to clear his mind. He also mentioned that his wife is not the same women he knew back then. According to him, his wife is more complacent now, have no ambition, knowing that he will provide for everything they need. He also mentioned that during the meltdown, his wife asked for divorce/separation right in front of the kids.

He wanted to make things good again, or at least working for them. So he had a talk with his wife. While he was proposing a solution, the wife keep on pointing mistakes. He proposed for couple counseling, but the wife is against it. She say what is the use of talking to other people about family affair. His wife is a bit on kampung side, not well educated, just high school cert. While he gives out reasons why couple therapy is the solution, the wife keep on pointing mistake, and a simple talk turn into fight again. Finally the wife agreed to go for counselling, but knowing his wife, he is very positive that the wife will just go for the sake of going, and will not take any advice or willing to change. It had been that way since they were married.

Honestly speaking, I went to therapist too to solve my issue, and for me, it only work if u are willing to open up, talk and listen. In his wife case, she is willing to talk, but never listen. They used to be happy family. The kids are well mannered too.

Any of u here went for couple therapy, or at least  encountered the same issue? I really want to help them, I pity the kids. I grew up in broken house, so I know the feeling growing up without a father. Even my friend agree for co-parenting, knowing the wife, she will take everything in her own hand and will screw up everything.

Please help.
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I never went for couples therapy before but I did go for therapy for my highly ADHD child.

I think your friend should be glad what he has: a JOB. I know his problem is entirely a different matter. Just this year alone, I almost lost my job, I was so distressed, I think its even worse than arguing with wife. Thank goodness I strung a couple of deals with Head Office, and I got transferred back avoiding a toxic working environment at the subsidiary.

Your friend and wife should just try couples therapy...you will never know...they got nothing to lose anyways, they already in this position.

Who knows? it may work, just get your friend to tell wife to be positive about it.

normal lah for wife to keep nagging....but why keep account of mistakes? Dun macam ni lah...

Your friend must be quite high strung or bad tempered. Argue with wife also can scream at kids. I am complete opposite, when I am stressed I just too busy to even scold my kids.




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post Sep 22 2025, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Sep 22 2025, 03:33 PM)
14 years old.
refuses to attend weekly assembly and bacaan yaasin. caught walking about the school mulitple times. kept doing it even though warned by the teachers many times. he also lies often. his lying is what made his teachers angry with him. because it makes it seem like he just doesnt care at all about what the teachers are advising him.

he has seen a psychologist and is suspected of having adhd where he finds it very difficult to sit still and is constantly looking for stimulation and he lies because he is afraid of getting into trouble if he told the truth. its hard to explain but basically, he has skewed logic.

at home, he is constantly pacing back and forth and he gets agitated if he cant check crypto market prices every 5 minutes.

my wife feels like he is the way he is because of overexposure to smart phones. she blames me for letting him keep the smart phone after he left boarding school.
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every 5 min see crypto currency?

he what? gamble in crypto ?

You didn't notice the ADHD symptoms as early as 5yo ? 14yo is quite late man.

The psychologist would usually see the parents after a few initial rounds with the kid, because you guys are the caretakers. Psychologist would teach and guide the parents how to handle your kid. No point for psychologist to see your kid all the time.

If you guys are serious about resolving his ADHD, you should not send him to boarding school. Its the worse place to resolve his issues. He could either mix with bad people or he himself kena bully kaw kaw. YOu should keep him at home and attend a nearby school.

Yes smart phones are also a bad influence and one of the major reasons for kids bad attitude.


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post Sep 22 2025, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 22 2025, 09:49 AM)
He is quite wealthy tbh. He owned his own company, earning close to 15mil per year (company earning lah, not him personally). His house also quite big and spacious, they even have their own reading room. So money is not an issue for him. His kids goes to Alice Smith, and if u know anything about private school, u will know how expensive is that school.
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So why his siblings issue affects his marriage?

why they don't invite him? Is it because they are even more successful.
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post Sep 22 2025, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 22 2025, 04:45 PM)
Come to think of it, yes it is. Housewife is one of the worst job in the world.
Kind of bad tempered person, easily triggered. I saw him nag at people for leaving the restaurant door open, or not saying thank you for holding the door of lift. I advised him on that, he told me he was raised in a well mannered family, so he expected everyone to do the same. at least basic P's and Q's. Told him not everyone was raised that way, he told me those things can learn one. Hard to win with that guy too yawn.gif
Not directly affecting. I also donno why, but based on what he said, his family is quite materialistic. He is richer than me, but his siblings is richer than him.
Memang no friend pun. I am his only friend at the church. His workplace also no friend. He sees human as dispensable.
I think same goes for the husband too.
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Then he is the problem. If his family have values of fairness, and expects everyone to apply the same then why does it run contradict to why they didn't invite his family over?

You say he is christian, but it appears he has huge ego, he must submit to his wife also not just expect his wife to submit to him.

How can he proclaim to go church but the way he treats his staffs as dispensable? I thought christians are thought to be like servanthood even to their own workers. My christian friends told me that their lord jesus last time in ancient times, goes around wash people feet to show his spirit of servanthood.

Your friend, if he thinks going to psychologist to solve his wife issue, he is so dead wrong. He appears to contribute 80% of the problems.

In fact, your friend reminds me of my neighbor who is a christian, very successful as he is a director. He sends his kids to international school similar to Alice Spring but not that one, though the fees are around the same annually. The wife also housewife, but complains that the husband neglects her and not appreciate her contributions. Sometimes when I go eat at their house, the wife would break down and cry in front of the guests.

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post Sep 22 2025, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 22 2025, 06:09 PM)
Being a christian have nothing to do with this. Sure, we met at church, but being a christian got nothing to do with it. All your point shows only him being a cristian, go to church, and when u talking about your neighbour, u also pointed out him being a cristian. Mind you, this is serious k. The only things u dont mentioned being a chistian is only your 4th paragraph, and that the only thing u said that make sense.

Im a christian too, and I have no such problem. Focus on the problem here, and dont focus on christian.
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nothing to do?

So he goes to church but he is not a christian?

I am pointing out that this friend of yours is all ego...first he thinks he is always right all the time, he is bad tempered. And he goes to church, but he doesn't seem to be paying attention to what he is listening there.

Before he goes to psycologist, it is useful to point out that he needs to change himself first as he doesn't practice what he preaches. If he had been listening at church, his wife wouldn't behave this way because church teaches christians to submit to each other, husband submit to wife, wife submit to husband. If they both do this, then all these conflicts would reduce to bare minimum.

So I am telling you this: it has all to do with this.

Psycologist wouldn't work if he continues with his stubborness.

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Sep 22 2025, 06:33 PM
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post Sep 23 2025, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Sep 22 2025, 07:16 PM)
Yes, being a cristian have nothing to do with it. Its his personal problem. And all u pointed out was him being a christian. A lot of people go to mosque or temple too, and not all practice what their religion taught them to. Religion and people doesnt work that way. All religion taught peace, but all the followers follow it. If they do, then we achieve world peace already.

Keep your hatred towards other religion to yourself. The topic is about seeing a psychologist, and u turned it into a christian problem.
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It has everything to do with his problem.

1) Christian teaches husband to submit to wife, wife submit to husband. If he had paid attention to the basic tenets of christian marriage, this wouldn't have happened. His wife wouldn't complain of wanting divorce.
2) He goes to church but seem like the person living a different lifestyle from christian. He looks like a person who don't practice or listen at church. So he does have a problem at home, seems he don't listen to wife also.
3) He can't even pay attention to the teachings of his church, what makes you think he pay any attention to the psychologist? Unless he thinks the psychologist is to resolve his wife issue. But its about both of them: not just him. Already one poster pointed this out. Even he can see captain obvious.
4) What has this to do with hatred of religion? Are you him?
5) if you say people don't practice religion, then what is the point of going to church? just for the paper to say you are christian? You are wasting your time. Just because other people don't practice, you must follow them ah? so religion is about herd mentality?

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post Sep 23 2025, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 23 2025, 10:14 AM)
You mean you dont believe in PAYING FOR PROFESSIONAL HELP.

the free resources online some are probably produced by psychologists as well  ,dangling bits of content, to promote their (paid) services.
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It does help..for eg my child's ADHD issues, there was something I didn't spot out that the psychologist spotted.
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post Sep 24 2025, 08:43 AM

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My conclusion is this: By all means he and wife goes to psychologist to resolve their marriage problems.

However he needs to be ready to accept big part for his fall. He cannot push the blame all to his wife.

There are also church counselling that he can try to attend.

From here, the thing he needs to change no.1 is his ego. He needs to treat his staffs as if what his church teaches. He needs to be forgiving and be nice to his family; it may not auto mean they invite him to their house next time. He needs to embrace his weaknesses and be proud of his weaknesses. He goes to church after all; needsless to say he should know why. I don't need to tell him here. One last thing, he should stop shouting at his girls. Girls are vulnerable, sensitive. Thank goodness he didn't have boys, can't imagine he would explode.

All the best to him for his marriage. Hope it all works out. Again, please attend counselling and psychologist.

 

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