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Those after 50yo in danger job zone
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 15 2025, 04:11 PM, updated 3 months ago
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I have 2 friends
1) guy in 50s....kena retrenched, can't find job but managed to do some free lance business. When then suddenly he was struck by an illness and needed a lot of money for long term operation. Had to ask for money. Don't know how he can support 2 children.
2) woman in her 50s. Got retrenched when she as late 40s, lucky found a job, but then into 50s, cannot tahan new boss, had to resign. Managed to find a job, but at 60% of her current pay. She still has young children to support.
3) guy in 50s...he kena PIP...near MCO, then joined a bankrupt co, in the end also had to leave, then joined another co at 1/3 his pay.
some of you maybe young but when you reach 50s....you feel like walking on glass.....that's gonna crack.
that next 10 years is crucial.
don't ever take any risks to get new job or take up transfers.
you will never know - retrenchment, suddenly co results go south, change of boss
This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Sep 15 2025, 04:12 PM
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 15 2025, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Sep 15 2025, 04:22 PM) how is your PiP going on? asking... doesn't mean kena
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 15 2025, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 15 2025, 04:20 PM) If you're not in leadership position or in a position where decision making or strategic thinking is value or where experience commensurate with your output, then yes, after 40s you're pretty much in danger. I heard a 50 yo director punya contract not renewed end up have to grab driver with his vellfire
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 15 2025, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 15 2025, 05:04 PM) Have to see what was his value added proposition he was a director in the first place. A lot of people in directorship position is because of their connection, rather than their strategic know how. Last time I got one guy being made into director simply because he used to work with a major customer. Company hoping he can use his connection to maintain the contract. Mana tau the customer has a major revamp and nuked all the director's contract. Following year no longer a director. well because this director wasn't hitting his target. big boss not happy. well not easy lah...being in sales. you know lah, if given a product, can you sell it due to its specs not meet customer requirement or it does but there are better ones out there?
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(bcombat @ Sep 15 2025, 05:29 PM) Yes. It is you who kena.🤠whatever lah you want to think
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 15 2025, 05:40 PM) That’s why I plan for 50 years old anytime kena retrench. I see my colleagues 40 yo all still spend like they can work till 65 lol but at the same time start worry about job market Liao. anything can happen but the luckiest guy I know was retrenched at 55yo got paid 550k. he goyang...all the way to 60
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE(NinG @ Sep 16 2025, 07:24 AM) So much of anxiety in this thread. TS. How old are you actually to have this kind of anxiety. it is not anxiety, it is a fact you reach 50yo you see whether you can find job or not in spore the age is 40
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 16 2025, 11:21 AM) In short, by >50 after almost 25y in the ranks and you still don't have the moni and portfolios working, gearing enough for you and you still fear not drawing a pay cheque then you sendiri yg carik susah lo. its not as easy as you think. skillsets and system knowledge can get obsolete very quickly. Could be that the person also being transferred to a dead end role. For eg, my friend took up the role thinking that it is good for his future, mana tau kena con by employer then work dead end role... then MCO came a few months later..could not move after 3 years, market slow and bad then Russia-Ukraine war then Tariff war suddenly 50yo already
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Sep 16 2025, 07:30 PM) Another guy I knew working for a Ang Moh MNC, sometimes he gets sent to overseas means he gets two salary at once with over 5 figure a month. When mid 40s kena fry sotong, now open furniture shop to support himself. huh? furniture shop can make money meh? how he got the connections and exprerience ?
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Sep 16 2025, 02:19 PM) Friend Maybank manager in his 40s was fried sotong during MCO. Another working at high keras hotel also fried sotong, now driving grab 40s is dangerous zone for ordinary kulis hotel and airline industry are high risk during MCO.
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Sep 16 2025, 10:35 AM) Been thru that episode 17 years ago, nothing to scare if you prepared well ahead. From a 20k salary, it took me a week to finally launch my second option life career. what is that?
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 16 2025, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Sep 16 2025, 10:06 AM) when youre at age close to 40s youre already expected to get jobs via connection, not direct applications i have alot of ex colleagues whom i see move here there often, all because they are constantly being referred to by their friends/colleagues internally. and these arent low level roles too depends on the industry. HR and Accountancy don't have much connection to introduce My friends in the construction and machinery maintenance field have more opportunity in this.
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Sep 17 2025, 12:25 PM) Dunno what to say... My friend got VSS and got rehire by the same comp after 1 yr.... She very lucky she 50yo ?
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 19 2025, 06:40 PM) my company still regularly hires people over 65yo.  I have a few 70yo coworkers. it depends where you are some engineering and construction specialist can work after retirement for eg, my dad worked until 73yo due to his expertise. for some fields like HR and Finance can say bye bye. This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Sep 20 2025, 07:28 PM
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(poooky @ Sep 19 2025, 10:36 AM) Only because the msian labour market visa requirement not easy. Visa is tied to employer and many conditions. But don't know how long this can last, once they relax requirements plenty of PRCs, Indians, Indons, Pinoys will come and work for cheap and no more company loyalty when can hire them 50% lower than locals. Plenty of case in SG as they visa requirement much easier compare to us, people work same company ~10 - 20 years hit manager earn SGD5-8k. Suddenly SME lay him off hire Msian for 25% less. And this is not including older ppl who get taken advantage of pay RM1.7k minimum wage because boss know they got no choice. Loyalty my foot. This loyalty you talk of is illusion. Maybe for those companies where boss himself build business from scratch they value their long time employee, but once next generation take over especially if they have never worked there they will restructure and fire the those expensive old timers. CCP co set up MNC here, usually hire 50% of the staffs to be their own people, most top management are their own people. Our Msia immigratin also never check one.
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Sep 17 2025, 01:32 PM) This is why when /ktards make fun of KKM seringgit or raise the payment to higher, they fail to see that there are some people who have fallen on hard times who will need healthcare from the government. this friend of mine, after retrenched he was able to do some business, sustaining lah. But after 3-4 years suddenly he was struck with cancer. He didn't want to admit it, but the cancer sure affected his business as he wasn't able to go out to see his clients.
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Sep 20 2025, 07:32 PM) rehired at same pay???
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Sep 20 2025, 09:13 PM) Yup...she was very happy and satisfied Got few hundred thousand compensation, enjoy life for 1 yr, comp come rehire her back same pay same position wah co so stupid one.
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TShoonanoo
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Sep 20 2025, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Sep 20 2025, 09:13 PM) Yup...she was very happy and satisfied Got few hundred thousand compensation, enjoy life for 1 yr, comp come rehire her back same pay same position wah co so stupid one.
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