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TShoonanoo
post Sep 16 2025, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Sep 16 2025, 07:30 PM)
Another guy I knew working for a Ang Moh MNC, sometimes he gets sent to overseas means he gets two salary at once with over 5 figure a month. When mid 40s kena fry sotong, now open furniture shop to support himself.
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huh? furniture shop can make money meh?

how he got the connections and exprerience ?
TShoonanoo
post Sep 16 2025, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Sep 16 2025, 02:19 PM)
Friend Maybank manager in his 40s was fried sotong during MCO.

Another working at high keras hotel also fried sotong, now driving grab

40s is dangerous zone for ordinary kulis
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hotel and airline industry are high risk during MCO.


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post Sep 16 2025, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Sep 16 2025, 10:35 AM)
Been thru that episode 17 years ago, nothing to scare if you prepared well ahead.
From a 20k salary, it took me a week to finally launch my second option life career.
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what is that?
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post Sep 16 2025, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Sep 16 2025, 10:06 AM)
when youre at age close to 40s youre already expected to get jobs via connection, not direct applications

i have alot of ex colleagues whom i see move here there often, all because they are constantly being referred to by their friends/colleagues internally. and these arent low level roles too
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depends on the industry.

HR and Accountancy don't have much connection to introduce

My friends in the construction and machinery maintenance field have more opportunity in this.
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post Sep 16 2025, 10:21 PM

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Job security is a thing of the past and there is no guarantee in life. One should live within means and not trying to over commit i.e. high maintenance life style, sports car, big banglo.. ofc unless these are just less than 10% of total asset.

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post Sep 16 2025, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 16 2025, 08:59 PM)
depends on the industry.

HR and Accountancy don't have much connection to introduce

My friends in the construction and machinery maintenance field have more opportunity in this.
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actually can wan, just how buddy2 you are to whoever who moved to another company and whether they can influence the HR to hire you
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post Sep 17 2025, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 15 2025, 04:11 PM)
I have 2 friends

1) guy in 50s....kena retrenched, can't find job but managed to do some free lance business. When then suddenly he was struck by an illness and needed a lot of money for long term operation. Had to ask for money. Don't know how he can support 2 children.

2) woman in her 50s. Got retrenched when she as late 40s, lucky found a job, but then into 50s, cannot tahan new boss, had to resign. Managed to find a job, but at 60% of her current pay. She still has young children to support.

3) guy in 50s...he kena PIP...near MCO, then joined a bankrupt co, in the end also had to leave, then joined another co at 1/3 his pay.
some of you maybe young but when you reach 50s....you feel like walking on glass.....that's gonna crack.

that next 10 years is crucial.

don't ever take any risks to get new job or take up transfers.

you will never know - retrenchment, suddenly co results go south, change of boss
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That's why I live frugally so that in the event I got no job, I got passive income coming in.

Having your own income stream is a kind of protection for oneself.
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post Sep 17 2025, 03:41 AM

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with AI replacing senior workers risk zone is already become 30's
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post Sep 17 2025, 06:23 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 16 2025, 08:55 PM)
huh? furniture shop can make money meh?

how he got the connections and exprerience ?
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He selling imported USA brand furniture

QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 16 2025, 08:57 PM)
hotel and airline industry are high risk during MCO.
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I also kena fry during MCO, from 2019 to 2023, used up 100k savings just to lead a normal life, buy food, buy groceries, car petrol road tax insurance, Shopee shopping etc
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post Sep 17 2025, 07:40 AM

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At 50, one should already established oneself in ones industry. Experience, knowledge and connections.

Im in early 50s, just got an offer with a 20% salary bunp.

Like Liam Neeson character in Taken, I have a particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career.
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post Sep 17 2025, 08:04 AM

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I really dont want to work over 50yo..
But i took a mortgage with my company until retirement age (60). Need to save fast enough to get out of the loan before my target retirement year
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post Sep 17 2025, 08:06 AM

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Ok. I will start worrying after 1 decade.
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post Sep 17 2025, 08:12 AM

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>50? After 45, you are no longer competitive enough liao; worse if you are still stuck in mid level. LOL.
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post Sep 17 2025, 08:20 AM

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At 40s, only purchase a house / property on loan if you already have that amount in your investments. Don't stress yourself with 'potential future income' to cover the loan. Chances of retrenchment, role being obsolete / redundant is pretty high the older you get. You might be the best employee in the company today, but down the road there is always a younger, cheaper version of yourself going to fill that role of yours.
There is no such thing as 'company needs you to survive'. The moment you are a burden, off you go.
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post Sep 17 2025, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Sep 17 2025, 08:20 AM)
At 40s, only purchase a house / property on loan if you already have that amount in your investments. Don't stress yourself with 'potential future income' to cover the loan. Chances of retrenchment, role being obsolete / redundant is pretty high the older you get. You might be the best employee in the company today, but down the road there is always a younger, cheaper version of yourself going to fill that role of yours.
There is no such thing as 'company needs you to survive'. The moment you are a burden,  off you go.
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We used to have this saying when working in MNC ‘you are as good and successful as your last achievement!’…..
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post Sep 17 2025, 11:15 AM

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if you is sacked or lose job by 50 you can retired already... EPF money sudah dapat, then just living a simple life only..

apa lagi mahu kejar?
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post Sep 17 2025, 12:25 PM

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Dunno what to say... My friend got VSS and got rehire by the same comp after 1 yr.... She very lucky
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post Sep 17 2025, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Sep 16 2025, 12:16 PM)
Perfectly said. In kopitiam, you can see many delusional ktards looking forward to earn 4m in their EPF by the time they retire.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Sep 16 2025, 03:02 PM)
Well said 👍🏻
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There is another pattern forming in silence, one that escapes most people. A generation before us often chanted: “Don’t be loyal, loyalty doesn’t pay off.” This advice was passed down to their younger generation.

Because of this conditioning, today’s workforce does not easily stay loyal. The cause and effect of the past is shaping the cause and effect of the present. Now, due to the scarcity of loyalty, SMEs and some corporations have come to value loyalty, especially from capable people—more than anything else. Under current market conditions, those who have remained loyal for 15–20 years find their positions deeply anchored.

What dumbfounds me is how this notion of “loyalty” has crossed over into personal human relationships. You can see the same trend running in parallel: modern relationships are no longer as loyal and faithful as in the old days—they mirror the same conditioning we see in the workplace.


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post Sep 17 2025, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Sep 15 2025, 04:11 PM)
I have 2 friends

1) guy in 50s....kena retrenched, can't find job but managed to do some free lance business. When then suddenly he was struck by an illness and needed a lot of money for long term operation. Had to ask for money. Don't know how he can support 2 children.
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This is why when /ktards make fun of KKM seringgit or raise the payment to higher, they fail to see that there are some people who have fallen on hard times who will need healthcare from the government.
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post Sep 17 2025, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(nihility @ Sep 17 2025, 12:55 PM)
There is another pattern forming in silence, one that escapes most people. A generation before us often chanted: “Don’t be loyal, loyalty doesn’t pay off.” This advice was passed down to their younger generation.

Because of this conditioning, today’s workforce does not easily stay loyal. The cause and effect of the past is shaping the cause and effect of the present. Now, due to the scarcity of loyalty, SMEs and some corporations have come to value loyalty, especially from capable people—more than anything else. Under current market conditions, those who have remained loyal for 15–20 years find their positions deeply anchored.

What dumbfounds me is how this notion of “loyalty” has crossed over into personal human relationships. You can see the same trend running in parallel: modern relationships are no longer as loyal and faithful as in the old days—they mirror the same conditioning we see in the workplace.
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I wouldn't say conditioning, people are just simply reacting to the environment.

They saw how loyalty did not matter during retrenchment. They saw even corporate giants can fail. They saw the consequences of putting all eggs in one basket, and they adapt accordingly.

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