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From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
I just bought CX30 full spec last year, not because I dont like China cars or EV but give maybe another 5 more years see how. Next car probably will be an EV
Also Bermaz is very slow to react to market. CX60 tease so long to launch but end up 2.5 engine when all prospect buyers are looking forward to 3.3, Mazda 3 2.0 sell so expensive even if CBU now desperate bring in 1.5 with much lower price to gain some sales. CX5 facelift CKD they take out the larger screen which other markets get, same for CX30 still on 2nd refresh when other markets already on 3rd or 4th refresh. Same story for Kia, after taking over from Naza for like 5 years so far only 3 models? Wtf
This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 12 2025, 01:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 12 2025, 02:02 PM)
medicore car market it with premium price, complain that other medicore car market at cheaper price taking their sales..
Problem is Bermaz still think they are at early 2010s or 2020s when their only competition is T and H. Mazda does drive and feels better than T and H (and its still better than many C brands), that time people dont mind spending a bit more to get it
Now with so many choices which give more for less, that strategy obviously not gonna work anymore. T and H could care less since they have the brand loyalty, but not Mazda since its always seen as just an alternative, and it's not the only alternative anymore in the current market
This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 12 2025, 02:10 PM
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From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 12 2025, 02:11 PM)
You tell that to their management see what happens. They will say I eat salt more than you eat rice. I sell Mazda that time you still wearing diapers.
As a former Kia owner under Naza i thought Bermaz would be better when they took over. Manatau just left pocket masuk right pocket.... (Not surprising also lah looking at the family connection)
This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 12 2025, 02:27 PM
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From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 12 2025, 02:34 PM)
mazda is in a weird position. T and H not just brand loyalty, but they are targeting different customers. those who looking for fuel saving, practical daily car (those are what they sell most). Mazda on the other hand like what u say, ppl maybe buy it for say "drive better", yes, still fuel saving, but they lose out on spaciousness of the interior and the confortness on uneven road due to suspension is aim "to drive better". then there are also tech stuff they missing out. as ppl age, their priority change, they may opt for more spacious and comfort related cars.
an for new gen, there is now option like EV and etc around those price range, can the car market is more dynamic with diff manufacturer having car aim for different markets.
Mazda is a small brand and its unrealistic for them to match the volume of T and H. They do have the answer for these issues (newer models like CX60, EZ6, EZ60 etc), but as always Bermaz is the problem. Slow to react and take action. By the time they launch the model people already flock to other brands
This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 12 2025, 02:43 PM
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From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Sep 12 2025, 03:14 PM)
you r right, mazda bermaz are so out of touch with reality .
gib u 1 example
in a land where city and vios dominate in B segment, complete with ADAS below 100k mark, they decided to put their mazda 2, above 100k and WITHOUT ADAS . THeir main selling point is , "drives better", "a driver's car" or those crap .
they are dreaming if normies want to buy it . without economies of scale, its a matter of time before they tutup kedai.
Won't tutup lah. Not every brand needs economies of scale. If want say tutup, probably Subaru will tutup first without any CKD plans
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From: KL - Cardiff - Subang - Sydney
QUOTE(TheOnly @ Sep 12 2025, 04:30 PM)
Oh finally Madza fanbois dah wake up izzit.
Firstly, ownself shiok sendiri thinking it’s a conti grade or jap premium grade car. (No, it’s not, it’s not even close. Lexus’s or even Harrier is much closer to it)
Afterthat shiok sendiri thinking BMW lv handling. (No, not even close, a vw tiguan or golf is practically the benchmark of handling in their class, and not priced out of the general population range)
End up, only geng geng Madza themselves that suck each other cock, while everyone else stay far away and laugh at them.
Harrier is another siok sendiri car for Toyota fans who can't afford Lexus. pay so much for 2.0 NA + CVT
VW not priced out of general population range? They selling CKD base spec 1.4TSI Tiguan @ 200k wtf.... but nowadays can get very high discount since not many people buying
if anything, some VW fans even more siok sendiri by thinking they are driving some premium conti padahal it's just a Toyota from Germany
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