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 Mazda sales laosai lagi, blame cheap CCP cars

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ZeneticX
post Sep 12 2025, 01:52 PM

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I just bought CX30 full spec last year, not because I dont like China cars or EV but give maybe another 5 more years see how. Next car probably will be an EV

Also Bermaz is very slow to react to market. CX60 tease so long to launch but end up 2.5 engine when all prospect buyers are looking forward to 3.3, Mazda 3 2.0 sell so expensive even if CBU now desperate bring in 1.5 with much lower price to gain some sales. CX5 facelift CKD they take out the larger screen which other markets get, same for CX30 still on 2nd refresh when other markets already on 3rd or 4th refresh. Same story for Kia, after taking over from Naza for like 5 years so far only 3 models? Wtf

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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 12 2025, 09:24 AM)
Read Bermaz straight realize who's the problem.
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BAuto said group revenue declined by RM354.9mil (-41.9%) largely due to lower sales volume in the domestic operations for certain Mazda and Kia vehicles, which are nearing their end of product life cycles and aggravated by the highly competitive market conditions such as the influx of Chinese-made vehicles with their low pricing strategy.



eh eh , but them cbk also bring in XPENG what? why they blame chyna cars?

buy yes, see who behind bermaz also , know already what's the main problem whistling.gif

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They got Xpeng Deepal distributorship also what

Itu Deepal nowhere to be seen LOL

Sendiri selow je

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 12 2025, 01:52 PM)
I just bought CX30 full spec last year, not because I dont like China cars or EV but give maybe another 5 more years see how. Next car probably will be an EV

Also Bermaz is very slow to react to market. CX60 tease so long to launch but end up 2.5 engine when all prospect buyers are looking forward to 3.3, Mazda 3 2.0 sell so expensive even if CBU now desperate bring in 1.5 with much lower price to gain some sales. CX5 facelift CKD they take out the larger screen which other markets get, same for CX30 still on 2nd refresh when other markets already on 3rd or 4th refresh. Same story for Kia, after taking over from Naza for like 5 years so far only 3 models? Wtf
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post Sep 12 2025, 02:02 PM

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medicore car market it with premium price, complain that other medicore car market at cheaper price taking their sales..
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 12 2025, 02:02 PM)
medicore car market it with premium price, complain that other medicore car market at cheaper price taking their sales..
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Problem is Bermaz still think they are at early 2010s or 2020s when their only competition is T and H. Mazda does drive and feels better than T and H (and its still better than many C brands), that time people dont mind spending a bit more to get it

Now with so many choices which give more for less, that strategy obviously not gonna work anymore. T and H could care less since they have the brand loyalty, but not Mazda since its always seen as just an alternative, and it's not the only alternative anymore in the current market

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QUOTE(Mixxomon @ Sep 12 2025, 09:24 AM)
Read Bermaz straight realize who's the problem.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 12 2025, 02:07 PM)
Problem is Bermaz still think they are at early 2010s or 2020s when their only competition is T and H. Mazda does drive and feels better than T and H, that time people dont mind spending a bit more to get it

Now with so many choices which give more for less, that strategy obviously not gonna work anymore. T and H could care less since they have the brand loyalty, but not Mazda since its always seen as just an alternative, and it's not the only alternative anymore
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You tell that to their management see what happens. They will say I eat salt more than you eat rice. I sell Mazda that time you still wearing diapers.

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 12 2025, 02:11 PM)
You tell that to their management see what happens. They will say I eat salt more than you eat rice. I sell Mazda that time you still wearing diapers.
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As a former Kia owner under Naza i thought Bermaz would be better when they took over. Manatau just left pocket masuk right pocket.... (Not surprising also lah looking at the family connection)

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 12 2025, 02:07 PM)
Problem is Bermaz still think they are at early 2010s or 2020s when their only competition is T and H. Mazda does drive and feels better than T and H (and its still better than many C brands), that time people dont mind spending a bit more to get it

Now with so many choices which give more for less, that strategy obviously not gonna work anymore. T and H could care less since they have the brand loyalty, but not Mazda since its always seen as just an alternative, and it's not the only alternative anymore in the current market
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mazda is in a weird position. T and H not just brand loyalty, but they are targeting different customers. those who looking for fuel saving, practical daily car (those are what they sell most). Mazda on the other hand like what u say, ppl maybe buy it for say "drive better", yes, still fuel saving, but they lose out on spaciousness of the interior and the confortness on uneven road due to suspension is aim "to drive better". then there are also tech stuff they missing out. as ppl age, their priority change, they may opt for more spacious and comfort related cars.

an for new gen, there is now option like EV and etc around those price range, can the car market is more dynamic with diff manufacturer having car aim for different markets.
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Wta, those mazda owners especially older generations, easy to find spare parts? How expensive compared to T H?
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hmmm they got old stock can give me 30% discount or not ?
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 12 2025, 02:34 PM)
mazda is in a weird position. T and H not just brand loyalty, but they are targeting different customers. those who looking for fuel saving, practical daily car (those are what they sell most). Mazda on the other hand like what u say, ppl maybe buy it for say "drive better", yes, still fuel saving, but they lose out on spaciousness of the interior and the confortness on uneven road due to suspension is aim "to drive better". then there are also tech stuff they missing out. as ppl age, their priority change, they may opt for more spacious and comfort related cars.

an for new gen, there is now option like EV and etc around those price range, can the car market is more dynamic with diff manufacturer having car aim for different markets.
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Mazda is a small brand and its unrealistic for them to match the volume of T and H. They do have the answer for these issues (newer models like CX60, EZ6, EZ60 etc), but as always Bermaz is the problem. Slow to react and take action. By the time they launch the model people already flock to other brands

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Sep 12 2025, 02:36 PM)
Wta, those mazda owners especially older generations, easy to find spare parts? How expensive compared to T H?
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In KL and Selangor easy, can find specialist workshop for Mazda also (not SC). Parts slightly more exp than T and H unless OEM
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Sep 12 2025, 01:56 PM)
They got Xpeng Deepal distributorship also what

Itu Deepal nowhere to be seen LOL

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next year tarak CBU EV tax exemption, i don't know how they can sell their XPeng

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Sep 12 2025, 02:50 PM)
next year tarak CBU EV tax exemption, i don't know how they can sell their XPeng
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A lot of CBU EV also die wor.... unless they CKD
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 12 2025, 02:40 PM)
Mazda is a small brand and its unrealistic for them to match the volume of T and H. They do have the answer for these issues (newer models like CX60, EZ6, EZ60 etc), but as always Bermaz is the problem. Slow to react and take action. By the time they launch the model people already flock to other brands
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if they can't match T and H volume. how can they match CCP brand volume (worldwide)
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 12 2025, 02:58 PM)
if they can't match T and H volume. how can they match CCP brand volume (worldwide)
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They will remain a niche brand just like Subaru and a lot of Stellantis brands like Peugeot and Citroen

Anyway they are doing well in US market where CCP brands are banned

https://newsroom.mazda.com/en/publicity/rel...08/250828a.html

In CCP market itself they have JV with Changan which resulted in EZ6 and EZ60. Last I read EZ60 is selling not bad

https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/04/mazda-e...tions-reported/

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 12 2025, 03:01 PM)
They will remain a niche brand just like Subaru and a lot of Stellantis brands like Peugeot and Citroen

Anyway they are doing well in US market where CCP brands are banned

In CCP market itself they have JV with Changan which resulted in EZ6 and EZ60. Last I read EZ60 is selling well

https://carnewschina.com/2025/08/04/mazda-e...tions-reported/
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Manatau Bermaz bring in EZ60 to satisfied the CCP lovers.. brows.gif

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