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TSOnePiece999
post Sep 11 2025, 02:33 PM, updated 3 months ago

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Myr20 for a piece.

What can be the low cost elements in this made to dump on landfill junk? May be can explode.

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TSOnePiece999
post Sep 11 2025, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Sep 11 2025, 02:38 PM)
even sold at RM99

MR.DIY has a very very strict policy.
CHEAP is top and only priority.
they dont even sell energizer/duracell/enerloop/panasonic at most of their store.

you wont found bosch
you wont found nippon paint
you wont found logitech
you wont found tupperware

f... in instant noodle section.....
you cant find most premium instant noodle brand too.
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I mean, the material cost to this already far exceeding the actual goods, they are mispricing by a whole lot, something is not matching in this thing. It is also can be found on any store btw.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:42 PM)
this is the most basic powerbank. 5v2a
other brand also rm25 only.

not suprised.
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It is highly suspicious to whether they are legitimate. Probably dishonest in the states capacity.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:47 PM)
Just a heads-up, on a slight tangent:

Xiaomi recently issued a recall of powerbanks here, potential fire hazard.

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/364858/xiaomi-r...ah-in-malaysia/
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It is legitimate powerbank. With genuine quality i believe.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Sep 11 2025, 02:45 PM)
how you know material cost already far exceeding??
10000mah battery,

cost to malaysia can be as low as RM15. ( supplier import cost + OEM white label )

RM20 for much better quality 1
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The basic way should be compare the rated capacity to the price. Like compare the price of memory i believe. 1gb for a dollar etc. 1000mah for a dollar etc.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:57 PM)
10kmah is standard. can always open up and test the capacity (3.7v)

china is selling this at crazy quantity, eg those rental powerbank
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Do you think it can go even much lower price? To a point even cheaper than electricity bill in the household.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Sep 11 2025, 02:58 PM)
the catch is fire

it will catch fire
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When it catch fire, can be use as fuel to boil water.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(lj0000 @ Sep 11 2025, 03:18 PM)
china sell at rmb20 or RM18
now clearing stock because dont have CCC cert
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With a cert to higher the price by a one half, it is still very impressive feat.
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post Sep 11 2025, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 11 2025, 03:34 PM)
even pineng brand is cheap what. you may got decent product with rm20.
https://my.shp.ee/xyEGX3p
though there is still chance of explosion even with known brand. use at your own risk
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There is fake powerbank that is made to deceive people such as 5000 capacity battery cell which turn out to be 800 mah at best, but at very low price. But I can’t tell whether there is a catch in this one.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 11 2025, 03:34 PM)
even pineng brand is cheap what. you may got decent product with rm20.
https://my.shp.ee/xyEGX3p
though there is still chance of explosion even with known brand. use at your own risk
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Probably a used goods, but for a brand new goods? That is outrageous.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Sep 11 2025, 04:06 PM)
5000mah powerbank with no fast charging.
So yes the pricing actually is correct for that product.
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The label is 3.7v at 10k, and 5v at 5100. Translate to 10k powerbank just like any other marketing for other branded one.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(destee88 @ Sep 11 2025, 04:25 PM)
if you think is junk what for you buy ?? rememeber this , cheap things no good , good things no cheap
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Need it so i buy it, branded one is far too unattainable. Unbranded one and cheap one is too suspicious, to a point safety might be questionable.
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post Sep 11 2025, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Sep 11 2025, 04:30 PM)
Its goes to show that the efficiency of that powerbank is bad if it drops by half the capacity of the battery after conversion.

So yeah padan dengan harga.
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It is pretty standard for most powerbank to convert just half of the rated capacity, even the branded one, nothing look sketchy here.
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post Sep 11 2025, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Sep 11 2025, 05:13 PM)
usually cheap powerbanks are quite straightforward to identify

1. they dont have good certifications
2. the battery capacity doesnt live up to its numbers, good powerbanks have close to 80% efficiency rating (8k mah/10k mah). the pic says 5k despite 10k mah capacity
3. the charging ports are basic low powered 5W-10W charging (no PD support)
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Not so linear, battery is 3.7v, yet the usb port is 5.3v. Which is close to 70% disparity. Your best bet is get near 70% conversion given zero energy loss in the process. Some energy still get loss from battery to the cable and also to your phone, either way we just ignore some marginal loss that is unavoidable.
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post Sep 11 2025, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Sep 11 2025, 04:49 PM)
If its ok for you then no problem. whistling.gif:

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May be yours is li-polymer not li-ion cells.
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Unboxed, everything look fine so far, nothing broken or damaged…user posted image
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post Sep 11 2025, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 11 2025, 05:51 PM)
The thing about cheaper powerbanks are that they dont last very long. Maybe the cells they use are lower grade, and often times, no where near the rated and advertised capacity.

I've had 5 pineng ones that failed after a year or 2 (some become pregnant), while my 3 xiaomi ones are ALL still working after 3-5 years. Those 20k mah 45W ones weren't cheap when they were new in the market (160) but I've just ordered another one for 70 recently.
Given decent xiaomi ones arn't that much more expensive than chap ayam, no point in saving money there.
I find for powerbanks, just as long as you charge them up before you fully drain them, they tend to last longer. If you have completely drained them, sometimes they dont charge up properly anymore or worst, fireworks when charging.
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Pineng has bad reputation of having low grade product, never get their stuff in the right direction once. All other brand too have their own unique flaws and perks. But overall didn’t get close to completely unusable hot mess products.
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post Sep 11 2025, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 11 2025, 07:06 PM)
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buy low, sell high
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1000 power bank of 10k mah you can get:
39000wh = 39kwh

A household power consumption is:
877 kWh per month
Or
19.973kwh Energy Required per day

Basically you can power your entire house already with this renewable energy. But would cost you 20k myr to setup.

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post Sep 11 2025, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Sep 11 2025, 06:59 PM)
Why upload 2 times
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Which one upload twice?
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post Sep 11 2025, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Sep 11 2025, 07:33 PM)
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Power a EV car is accessible, but power an entire house is next level of achievement. Wait to see when it can even slash by another half of the price.

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