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 Malaysia’s jobless rate stays at decade-low

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empyreal
post Sep 11 2025, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 10:15 AM)
The age breakdown is ~10m population for those age 0-19. Its 3.1m for those 20-24 and ~2.7m population for those age 65 and above.

34-10-2.7 = 21.3m should represent the full labour force (20-64).

Even if minus 3.1 assuming everyone doesn't work until age 25 in bolehland and no one works beyond 64, there is still an under-accounting of the labour force of ~2m.

The housewife segment should be pretty big, otherwise people retire very early.

I wouldn't pat the back just because someone only record 0.5m as unemployment.
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Labour force has a specific meaning, and excludes those who are not seeking work (including housewives, people on sabbaticals, those living off otger incomes etc). It's not just based on age.
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 11 2025, 10:42 AM)
Labour force has a specific meaning, and excludes those who are not seeking work (including housewives, people on sabbaticals, those living off otger incomes etc). It's not just based on age.
7.2+ million people can work but not seeking work in Bolehland.....

Only 0.5 million people can work and seeking work in Bolehland.....

Clearly a lot of unemployed on sabbatical.

funny how some people want pat on back for only 0.5m looking for work.

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thats because of gigwork la bodo

alot of ppl don't have a proper employed, stable job and is furiously searching.

i know 2, TWO dudes who got layout, last time pay 15k+ nett, now still doing grab+shopee deliveries
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post Sep 11 2025, 01:57 PM

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Thanks for gig economy
Everybody can have a job
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:02 PM

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Having a job and having a job with decent salary is 2 different things, unemployment rate can be low but if the pay is not good in general, then…
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 01:31 PM)
7.2+ million people can work but not seeking work in Bolehland.....

Only 0.5 million people can work and seeking work in Bolehland.....

Clearly a lot of unemployed on sabbatical.

funny how some people want pat on back for only 0.5m looking for work.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:02 PM)
Having a job and having a job with decent salary is 2 different things, unemployment rate can be low but if the pay is not good in general, then…
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our inflation and minimal salary still leads vs thailand & indonesia .

its fair benchmark since - the world is suffering from high inflation over recent years.


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post Sep 11 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 01:31 PM)
7.2+ million people can work but not seeking work in Bolehland.....

Only 0.5 million people can work and seeking work in Bolehland.....

Clearly a lot of unemployed on sabbatical.

funny how some people want pat on back for only 0.5m looking for work.
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Not just on sabbatical

There are people who are full time housewives (especially in states like Kelantan and Terengganu), raising the 13 kids that /k believes they pop out

There are people who can't work

I know 2 people who live off their parents pencen while taking care of them with long term medical conditions. It is not a luxurious life, but doable when the house is paid off

2 million sounds like a large number, but that is about 6% of the population


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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 01:31 PM)
7.2+ million people can work but not seeking work in Bolehland.....

Only 0.5 million people can work and seeking work in Bolehland.....

Clearly a lot of unemployed on sabbatical.

funny how some people want pat on back for only 0.5m looking for work.
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It's literally how the labour force is calculated internationally. What youre referring earlier is the working-age population.

The labour force participation rate is the figure that connects the two. Malaysia's (70.8%, as reported in the article) is comparable to Singapore and higher than China.
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Jobless rate don't count the gig jobs la.

Those don't have EPF which is needed to do the rate calculation.
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:30 PM

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if no one's looking for work because ada mysara then how?
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post Sep 11 2025, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Sep 11 2025, 02:30 PM)
if no one's looking for work because ada mysara then how?
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Maximum rate of MySARA is RM2100/year. And that is only for "isi rumah" (read: married couples with kid(s))

If they can live on RM2100/year with at least 3 mouths to feed, more power to them.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 11 2025, 02:26 PM)
It's literally how the labour force is calculated internationally. What you're referring earlier is the working-age population.

The labour force participation rate is the figure that connects the two. Malaysia's (70.8%, as reported in the article) is comparable to Singapore and higher than China.
Labour force participation rate is the percentage of the labour force to the population aged fifteen years & over.

Malaysia population 15 y/o onwards is 26.4 million.

70.8% means labour force of 18.7 million.

12.71 million +3.21 million + 0.5 million = 16.5 million. Still missing 2.2 million.
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:47 PM)
Labour force participation rate is the percentage of the labour force to the population aged fifteen years & over.

Malaysia population 15 y/o onwards is 26.4 million.

70.8% means labour force of 18.7 million.

12.71 million +3.21 million + 0.5 million = 16.5 million. Still missing 2.2 million.
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Not sure why you want to do your own calculations (which miss out things like employers (which are diff than own account workers) and unpaid family workers), when dosm has already done the work for you.

https://www.dosm.gov.my/portal-main/release...stics-july-2025

The dataset is linked at the bottom of the page.
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 02:47 PM)
Labour force participation rate is the percentage of the labour force to the population aged fifteen years & over.

Malaysia population 15 y/o onwards is 26.4 million.

70.8% means labour force of 18.7 million.

12.71 million +3.21 million + 0.5 million = 16.5 million. Still missing 2.2 million.
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Labour force participation rate among Malay women is around the 55% mark:
https://doi.org/10.1080/23311983.2023.2259663
http://www.statistics.gov.my/uploads/conte...41218122140.pdf

Yes there are a lot of women (who make up half the population) who are not in the workforce, despite being in the 15-64 age range

This post has been edited by haya: Sep 12 2025, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 11 2025, 09:06 AM)
There are also Japanese families with 13 kids; this doesn't mean they don't have population decline problems








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Seeing 1, 2, 10, families with 13 kids doesn't counterbalance the wider macro trend
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post Sep 11 2025, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Sep 11 2025, 09:55 AM)
statistics can be easily massaged.

Do a simple count.

employees - 12.71m
own account - 3.21m
unemployed - 0.5m
Total - 16.42m

Where is the balance of the 34m population?

There are still an additional 7.2+m people who are categorised as "outside labour force".

Why some people focus on the 0.5m but miss 7m?

In comparison, sinkieland register 4m labour force on a 6m population (with unemployment 0.1m).
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:10 PM

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post Sep 11 2025, 08:23 PM

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Lol malaysia have so much job even bangla come here and make a living .

So many 3r jobs / factories alot wanna hire -

ALL SALARY 2.5/3k above

U know how lucky malaysian are ? To sit at where we are and complain the job too boring and only bangla can do such job and have the option to pick.

While a bunch of u guys here say gig economy save these unemployed people - LOL - they did it coz they wnt freedom ma -

Ask them go find factory job or convenience store la -

Every day ada vacancy -

Or work for starbucks la - they pay 3k plus lodging

Alasan banyak - coz gig worker can do part time rempit and rompak also kot.

Coz they cant discipline kot-

Lol we are one of those countries can export so much foreigners- that the entire KLCC on weekends belong to them .


And yet the local we breed r there whining -

Nowonder their woman prefer bangla / pakistani people more and more .

Coz they r hardworking and didnt whine like a bitch. Easily have more money that the rempit boys we always see on the road

All their life - they only know how to blame blame blame - semua salah tuhan dan kerajaan- spoiled

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