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post Sep 11 2025, 08:03 AM, updated 4 months ago

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Five Iranian nationals face multiple charges in Penang, including stealing from tourists
Wednesday, 10 Sep 2025 5:06 PM MYT

GEORGE TOWN, Sept 10 (Bernama) -- Three men and two women from Iran were charged in separate Magistrates’ Courts here today with various offences, including theft, drug possession and overstaying in the country.

Tarfi Ghader, 33, pleaded not guilty to two counts of stealing RM400 in cash from a foreign tourist at a convenience store at 9.40 pm on August 1 and US$260 from another foreign tourist at Gurney Drive at 7.45 pm on July 30.

Deputy Public Prosecutor Ahmad Danial Amir Saad prosecuted both charges under Section 379 of the Penal Code, which carries a maximum jail term of seven years or a fine, or both, upon conviction.

Tarfi, along with his four compatriots, Fazeli Payam, 33; Dinarvand Siavash, 28; Zahra Hasani, 30; and Sara Ghiyas, 19, also pleaded not guilty to a charge of possessing 5 grammes of cannabis at an apartment in Batu Ferringhi at 12.30 am on August 3.

The charge, framed under Section 6 of the Dangerous Drugs Act 1952 and read together with Section 34 of the Penal Code, provides for a fine not exceeding RM20,000 or imprisonment for up to five years, or both.

Meanwhile, Tarfi, Fazeli and Zahra also pleaded not guilty to overstaying in the country without valid reasons, an offence under Section 15(1)© of the Immigration Act 1959/1963, which carries a fine of not less than RM10,000 or imprisonment of up to five years, or both.

The charges were read in Persian before Magistrate Nadratun Naim Mohd Saidi, who denied them bail and fixed October 9 for case mention.

In a separate court, Dinarvand pleaded not guilty before Magistrate Muhammad Amzar Ismail to stealing RM1,000 in cash from a foreign tourist at a shopping mall at 9.20 pm on July 30, under Section 379 of the Penal Code.

Tarfi and Fazeli also claimed trial to drug abuse charges under Section 15(1)(a) of the Dangerous Drugs Act, which carries a maximum fine of RM5,000 or up to two years’ jail.

Muhammad Amzar denied bail to all the accused and fixed October1 for case mention.

Before Magistrate Siti Nurul Suhaila Baharin, Dinarvand and Sara also pleaded not guilty to overstaying in the country without valid reasons, under Section 15(1)© of the Immigration Act. Both of them were also denied bail.

The prosecution was conducted by Deputy Public Prosecutor Lau Shavin, while lawyer R. Thandayuthabany Pillay represented all the accused. — Bernama

Source: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...tourists/190671
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:07 AM

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Why are these people allowed here anyways
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:08 AM

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and we don't like black tourist instead
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 11 2025, 08:08 AM)
and we don't like black tourist instead
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Don't you know? Being black carries the mandatory death penalty in Malaysia

Being white means you're rich and better than the locals
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:11 AM

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Why are these people allowed here anyways
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Tourists or student visa I suppose. There are a lot of Iranians in the British Embassy studying TESL.

It seems many of our tourists are bringing their bad habits to Malaysia. The tourists here are regardless of nationalities, race or religion. Need to nip all these in the bud to prevent Malaysia as a destination for the ‘bad tourists’ etc.
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It seems there are over 100k Iranian residing here.

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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 11 2025, 08:10 AM)
Don't you know? Being black carries the mandatory death penalty in Malaysia

Being white means you're rich and better than the locals
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i don't think we malaysians are racist but our immigration officers are

they prefer these people over black people not knowing some africans are actually rich AF
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QUOTE(Satori 14118a @ Sep 11 2025, 08:07 AM)
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Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Malaysia
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How do you deny overstaying charges? Authority read their wssport wrongly izit??
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:11 AM)
It seems many of our tourists are bringing their bad habits to Malaysia.  The tourists here are regardless of nationalities, race or religion.  Need to nip all these in the bud to prevent Malaysia as a destination for the ‘bad tourists’ etc.
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Some Japanese, Spanish, and Portuguese, would say the same thing too.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 11 2025, 08:19 AM)
How do you deny overstaying charges? Authority read their wssport wrongly izit??
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Now the prosecution need to prove the whole case of overstaying. So make more work for the prosecution

Its not as simple as showing their passport

As many problems as Malaysia has, Evidence law still exists
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 11 2025, 08:19 AM)
Some Japanese, Spanish, and Portuguese, would say the same thing too.
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Thais, Bali etc.
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post Sep 11 2025, 08:33 AM

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There are very skinny middle eastern types also roving around bukit bintang, asking people if they can speak english, claiming to need airfare back to Iran. I told one who looked like a druggie to go find his embassy and he'd get NO HELP from me, very loudly. he wisely moved along.

Outside KL Pavilion there are also bands of other middle eastern types who claim to be from palestine/israel depending on who they ask for money from. They got the same response from me.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 11 2025, 08:19 AM)
How do you deny overstaying charges? Authority read their wssport wrongly izit??
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It is standard MO, from what I experienced. The lawyers will advise their clients to plead not guilty.

I know cos many years ago, one of the company I worked for exceeded the schedule B effluent (before I joined the company, of course). As I was also in charge for ESH, it falls under me to attend the court. Met with the lawyer from a very reputable law firm in KL. the first thing the lawyer told me was don’t admit guilt. I argued with him that the data showed the effluent exceeded plus my internal investigation showed there are some ‘issues with the flow of waste water form the lines’. He still insisted no admission on guilt. Then later, he admitted cannot argue and I attended the SA court. In the end, kena fine close to 50k… maybe those in the law industry can advise…
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 11 2025, 08:33 AM)
There are very skinny middle eastern types also roving around bukit bintang, asking people if they can speak english, claiming to need airfare back to Iran. I told one who looked like a druggie to go find his embassy and he'd get NO HELP from me, very loudly. he wisely moved along.

Outside KL Pavilion there are also bands of other middle eastern types who claim to be from palestine/israel depending on who they ask for money from. They got the same response from me.
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Not only Middle Eastern. Someone posted that in Genting, you have the mainland Chinese. Then you have the back packers who put a can at roadside and hope for donations to fund their travels… 😂😂😂😂😂
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Who among you were surprised to hear this?
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:33 AM)
It is standard MO, from what I experienced.  The lawyers will advise their clients to plead not guilty. 

I know cos many years ago, one of the company I worked for exceeded the schedule B effluent (before I joined the company, of course).  As I was also in charge for ESH, it falls under me to attend the court.  Met with the lawyer from a very reputable law firm in KL. the first thing the lawyer told me was don’t admit guilt.  I argued with him that the data showed the effluent exceeded plus my internal investigation showed there are some ‘issues with the flow of waste water form the lines’.  He still insisted no admission on guilt.  Then later, he admitted cannot argue and I attended the SA court.  In the end, kena fine close to 50k… maybe those in the law industry can advise…
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loya buruk just want to make more money!
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 11 2025, 08:33 AM)
There are very skinny middle eastern types also roving around bukit bintang, asking people if they can speak english, claiming to need airfare back to Iran. I told one who looked like a druggie to go find his embassy and he'd get NO HELP from me, very loudly. he wisely moved along.

Outside KL Pavilion there are also bands of other middle eastern types who claim to be from palestine/israel depending on who they ask for money from. They got the same response from me.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:35 AM)
Not only Middle Eastern.  Someone posted that in Genting, you have the mainland Chinese.  Then you have the back packers who put a can at roadside and hope for donations to fund their travels… 😂😂😂😂😂
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Almost as if begpackers aren't limited to one nationality
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:35 AM)
Not only Middle Eastern.  Someone posted that in Genting, you have the mainland Chinese.  Then you have the back packers who put a can at roadside and hope for donations to fund their travels… 😂😂😂😂😂
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There is also a guy who claims to be from Syria begging away in Genting; he's approached me at least 3 times at the car park outside Genting Grand hotel. China beggars exist in Georgetown and KL too. Over the past 3 or 4 years I have encountered the same beggars here and there. Life must be good here for them to stay so long. They all get the same loud response from me.
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QUOTE(thunderkingkong @ Sep 11 2025, 08:45 AM)
loya buruk just want to make more money!
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Yang ni, no comment cos they are supposedly be expert in their fields. But u disagree cos I know the facts vs the lawyer who just came in and retort ‘ don’t admit guilt a. I can help you! ‘ or something of that meaning. Looomg time ago! 😂
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 11 2025, 08:48 AM)
Almost as if begpackers aren't limited to one nationality
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Agree. Back packers are from everywhere. Luckily we are not hosts to a lot of backpackers like Thailand, Bali or Philippines.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 11 2025, 08:53 AM)
There is also a guy who claims to be from Syria begging away in Genting; he's approached me at least 3 times at the car park outside Genting Grand hotel. China beggars exist in Georgetown and KL too. Over the past 3 or 4 years I have encountered the same beggars here and there. Life must be good here for them to stay so long. They all get the same loud response from me.
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Such tourists re everywhere and from all over the world. We must attract better ‘quality’ tourists that can spend a lot to boost our economy, like those in Singapore. Those that are willing to spend at least usd500/pax/nite type.

I suppose that’s why the Thais has a ruling that you must have a minimum amount of cash to enter the kingdom, if not mistaken. These are targeted at some tourist from certain countries only.

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:59 AM)
Such tourists re everywhere and from all over the world.  We must attract better ‘quality’ tourists that can spend a lot to boost our economy, like those in Singapore.  Those that are willing to spend at least usd500/pax/nite type.
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BolehLand is very unique, and the majority love to host illegals in the name of "brotherhood" and then they start demanding territory in Selayang.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Sep 11 2025, 09:01 AM)
BolehLand is very unique, and the majority love to host illegals in the name of "brotherhood" and then they start demanding territory in Selayang.
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I suppose you are correct.
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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 08:33 AM)
It is standard MO, from what I experienced.  The lawyers will advise their clients to plead not guilty. 

I know cos many years ago, one of the company I worked for exceeded the schedule B effluent (before I joined the company, of course).  As I was also in charge for ESH, it falls under me to attend the court.  Met with the lawyer from a very reputable law firm in KL. the first thing the lawyer told me was don’t admit guilt.  I argued with him that the data showed the effluent exceeded plus my internal investigation showed there are some ‘issues with the flow of waste water form the lines’.  He still insisted no admission on guilt.  Then later, he admitted cannot argue and I attended the SA court.  In the end, kena fine close to 50k… maybe those in the law industry can advise…
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So the defense I left the conyry but your immigration never stamp my passport n updated the system. Then I came back again. Also no system update n passport stamping. Such a great defense for these Aryans white middle easterns
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 11 2025, 08:13 AM)
i don't think we malaysians are racist but our immigration officers are

they prefer these people over black people not knowing some africans are actually rich AF
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nono, racism is in our blood
we everyday type c type m type i type g, tell me wat tht is if its not racism
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Geng middle East start active di negara Malaysia. Bawa Toyota Peti Sejuk kemudian pecah masuk rumah mewah.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 11 2025, 09:07 AM)
So the defense I left the conyry but your immigration never stamp my passport n updated the system. Then I came back again. Also no system update n passport stamping. Such a great defense for these Aryans white middle easterns
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Show air tickets….😂
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Sep 11 2025, 08:13 AM)
i don't think we malaysians are racist but our immigration officers are

they prefer these people over black people not knowing some africans are actually rich AF
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QUOTE(chinti @ Sep 11 2025, 09:10 AM)
nono, racism is in our blood
we everyday type c type m type i type g, tell me wat tht is if its not racism
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Guess it was Malaysian immigration that put up these banners and notices in private apartments?

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Sep 11 2025, 09:17 AM)
Show air tickets….😂
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Oh maybe the stole private jet. Flew home n came back from a long padang bole sepak somewhere.
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 11 2025, 09:20 AM)
Guess it was Malaysian immigration that put up these banners and notices in private apartments?

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i'm referring to tourist, not those who come here to live long term
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 11 2025, 09:07 AM)
So the defense I left the conyry but your immigration never stamp my passport n updated the system. Then I came back again. Also no system update n passport stamping. Such a great defense for these Aryans white middle easterns
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If you have left Malaysia in the last 6-7 years, immigration take a photo of everyone when they exit the country.

The take photos of non-Malaysian passport holders that enter Malaysia. (Malaysian passport holders, somewhat inconsistently: sometimes they do, other times they don't)

 

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