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post Sep 10 2025, 10:58 AM, updated 3 months ago

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Investment-Linked Health Insurance Cut Coverage To Below 65 Years: Sim
By CodeBlue | 8 September 2025

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Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin says two policyholders, currently in their 40s, had bought investment-linked health insurance plans in 2018 with RM2.1mil coverage and riders until age 100, but now face cuts in coverage period until age 64 and 59 respectively.


Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin speaks at a press conference in Parliament on September 8, 2025. Photo from Sim's office.
KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 8 — Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin has targeted investment-linked health insurance plans, citing consumer complaints that their coverage period was cut to below 65 years.

The PKR lawmaker cited three complaints involving plans purchased in 2018. The first involved a 47-year-old man who bought a plan with RM2.1 million medical coverage and riders until age 100.

Despite staggered premium increases under Bank Negara Malaysia’s (BNM) interim measures from RM4,000 to RM5,600 annually in five years, his coverage period was cut until age 64.

“When he complained to BNM and the insurance company, the insurer explained that the projection was merely a ‘sales illustration’ and even the most optimistic assumption at purchase (9 per cent returns for the first 20 years) could only sustain coverage until age 68,” Sim said in a statement today.

The second case involved a 45-year-old woman who also purchased a medical plan with RM2.1 million coverage and riders until age 100.

Her premium increases of 40 per cent were staggered (RM300 to RM420 annually over five years), but coverage was cut to age 59.

“Even after trying to negotiate a reduction in coverage to RM1 million, the insurer only lowered her premium by RM2.40. This forced the customer to accept unfair terms,” said Sim.

The third case involved a 59-year-old man who received notice that his new RM3,600 annual premium would only last two years. He was asked to top up drastically, paying RM8,580 (138 per cent increase) for coverage until age 81 or RM10,800 (200 per cent increase) until age 90.

Sim said these three cases showed insurers’ overly optimistic profit projections when selling investment-linked products.

“Many plans assume returns of up to 9 per cent annually for 20 consecutive years. In reality, actual returns were much lower than projected, leaving funds insufficient to cover protection costs. As a result, insurers drastically shortened coverage periods,” he explained.

“This means when policyholders retire in their 60s, when medical coverage is most needed, they are ‘abandoned’ by insurers.

“In fact, BNM issued a circular in July 2019 to regulate these investment-linked products. However, problems still affect policyholders who bought their plans before 2019. Therefore, I urge BNM to find solutions for pre-2019 cases.

“Under Section 155(b) of the Financial Services Act 2013 (FSA), Bank Negara must issue directives if a company conducts business in a way that harms the interests of depositors, policyholders, participants, consumers, creditors, or the public at large.”

The Pakatan Harapan MP warned that failure to resolve these issues could cause more T20 income earners to shift to public hospitals.

Kuala Lumpur Hospital (HKL) director Dr Harikrishna KR Nair told Berita Harian in an interview that HKL, the country’s biggest hospital, was seeing a rise in T20 and VIP patients, who had shifted from private hospitals to HKL over the past 10 years when their treatment exceeded insurance coverage.

He attributed this to an increase in medicine prices.

Another reason for wealthier people shifting to HKL was to seek oncology services in the government hospital with robotic technology. HKL receives two million patients a year and has 2,300 beds.

Health Minister Dzulkefly Ahmad told reporters yesterday that rising health insurance premiums could be a reason why T20 income earners are increasingly seeking treatment in public hospitals.
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that issue is the unprofessional agent using 9% return p.a and coverage up to 100 years old in the insurance premium calculation which is totally no logic at all, btw BNM also should review the return % calculation and the high % return

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that is why life insurance agent driving BMW and Benz.
People loves sweet talk + bonus miniskirt pretty agent.
While I sell traditional medical policy without all this sweet talk sweet projections people don't want to buy.
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:07 AM

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Those that think they will be insured up to 100 years, think again. Even if yes, your premium will cost you a fortune.
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:13 AM

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"Life" insuran is not for life?? I always have impression it covers you until you die or 100 years old, whichever comes first.

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Main beneficiaries of insurance are the agents first.
Company second.
Policy holder third.

Mainly due to policy holder not understanding the fine print of what they signed up for.
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my agent keep asking me topup to 100 years old for my medical :S
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ILP = siapa bodo create investment scheme just to enrich the selling agents and fcuk the insurance company
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 10 2025, 12:44 PM)
Main beneficiaries of insurance are the agents first.
Company second.
Policy holder third.

Mainly due to policy holder not understanding the fine print of what they signed up for.
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can sue the agent? and hodl the accountable till the day they died? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Sep 10 2025, 11:04 AM)
that is why life insurance agent driving BMW and Benz.
People loves sweet talk + bonus miniskirt pretty agent.
While I sell traditional medical policy without all this sweet talk sweet projections people don't want to buy.
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Any recommended traditional standalone medical policy?
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:30 AM

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boomer still buy the scam lol
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Sep 10 2025, 11:24 AM)
can sue the agent? and hodl the accountable till the day they died? whistling.gif
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No chance.
Wanted to say better to increase financial literacy along the population but that also looks impossible. Most of my friends who have invesent linked products cannot explain the investment portion. All the know is covered until xxx years, which is not the case in the document as it is stated as a projection.
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Sep 10 2025, 10:58 AM)

“When he complained to BNM and the insurance company, the insurer explained that the projection was merely a ‘sales illustration’ and even the most optimistic assumption at purchase (9 per cent returns for the first 20 years) could only sustain coverage until age 68,” Sim said in a statement today.

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This is like go to restaurant, see nice display and menu, order but come something else, and when complain says "FOOD ILLUSTRATION ONLY".

Niama punya benda macam ini is why I avoid investment link products like the damn plague.

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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Sep 10 2025, 11:07 AM)
Those that think they will be insured up to 100 years, think again. Even if yes, your premium will cost you a fortune.
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It's only a gimmick, nothing else. Most people by 80+ will say bye-bye already. Only those 1% will ever reach 100, like Thanos.... oh wait.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 10 2025, 01:01 PM)
No chance.
Wanted to say better to increase financial literacy along the population but that also looks impossible. Most of my friends who have invesent linked products cannot explain the investment portion. All the know is covered until xxx years, which is not the case in the document as it is stated as a projection.
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wonders if AI can be used to "make accountable" the ILPs agent.

And the money been ILP be refunded...

this gonna be good FAFO whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Sep 10 2025, 11:43 AM)
wonders if AI can be used to "make accountable" the ILPs agent.

And the money been ILP be refunded...

this gonna be good FAFO whistling.gif
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My take is insurance keep it at insurance.
Investment keep separate.

It's when combine both, doesn't benefit the customer.
That's why insurance companies and agents pushing ILP.
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> the insurer explained that the projection was merely a ‘sales illustration’

wow nice excuses for my arsenal
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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 10 2025, 11:13 AM)
"Life" insuran is not for life?? I always have impression it covers you until you die or 100 years old, whichever comes first.
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Any recommended traditional standalone medical policy?
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got many options out there. depends on your budget.
like the one i'm selling, got 500k limit per year, 1m, 2m.
premium, if u got MBB, PBB or CIMB c.card, can opt for 12 months 0% interest free installment.


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should ILP be banned? term insurance is better?
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So curious, what age do ktards cover their med card until ?
I only go up to 80.
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The advantage of an ILP over a standalone medical card is that the investment returns can offset future premium increases, as shown by actual historical data though you do need to pay more upfront

you may cross check if have close people who working at insurance company's product development
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insurance kompeni: you need to topup so we can maintain your account for longer.
customer: no, i wont, your agent promise the earlier i enter, the lower amount of insurance i should pay. i pay the same amount now.
insurance kompeni: okay suit yourself (term reduced to 59yo)

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And another thing old ILP have very bad coverage.
I decided to shop for Standalone, online, agentless insurance. Bought in on Kaotim and gonna surrender my ILP soon, get the remaining investment portion and put in EPF mayb
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Sep 10 2025, 11:56 AM)
So curious, what age do ktards cover their med card until ?
I only go up to 80.
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up to 80 is sufficient based on malaysia data

AI Overview

The overall average life expectancy in Malaysia was 75.2 years in 2024, with females living longer at 77.8 years and males at 73.0 years. This figure shows a general increase in lifespan over the years, though a temporary decline occurred between 2020 and 2022 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Breakdown by Gender (2024):
Overall: 75.2 years
Female: 77.8 years
Male: 73.0 years
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QUOTE(ornehx @ Sep 10 2025, 12:00 PM)
And another thing old ILP have very bad coverage.
I decided to shop for Standalone, online, agentless insurance. Bought in on Kaotim and gonna surrender my ILP soon, get the remaining investment portion and put in EPF mayb
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good luck if you need the pre & post hospitalization reimbursement later.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Sep 10 2025, 11:54 AM)
should ILP be banned? term insurance is better?
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no doubt that ILP is better than term insurance
the problem now is the unprofessional agent provide the incorrect info to consumer while the consumer just depend on agent to spoon feed
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Sep 10 2025, 02:06 PM)
hansem dude
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is he wild? i like wild and hard. biggrin.gif blush.gif
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He is definitely your type
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i guarantee Madani gomen will protect the insurance companies
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Sep 10 2025, 11:59 AM)
insurance kompeni: you need to topup so we can maintain your account for longer.
customer: no, i wont, your agent promise the earlier i enter, the lower amount of insurance i should pay. i pay the same amount now.
insurance kompeni: okay suit yourself (term reduced to 59yo)
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actual scenario is gomen protect insurance company, so talk cock, take as much money as possible, then kill contract once they need to cover claims. Extra bonus if can kill contract before claim made.

gomen protect cause insurance companies have hundred of billions in the stock market. (ahem, GLCs)

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 10 2025, 11:13 AM)
"Life" insuran is not for life?? I always have impression it covers you until you die or 100 years old, whichever comes first.
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No la. Life insurance is to cover your "life", aka pay you when you mati, or cacat.
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https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2025/09/in...w-65-years-sim/

Investment-Linked Health Insurance Cut Coverage To Below 65 Years: Sim
By CodeBlue | 8 September 2025

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Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin says two policyholders, currently in their 40s, had bought investment-linked health insurance plans in 2018 with RM2.1mil coverage and riders until age 100, but now face cuts in coverage period until age 64 and 59 respectively.
Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin speaks at a press conference in Parliament on September 8, 2025. Photo from Sim's office.
KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 8 — Bayan Baru MP Sim Tze Tzin has targeted investment-linked health insurance plans, citing consumer complaints that their coverage period was cut to below 65 years.

The PKR lawmaker cited three complaints involving plans purchased in 2018. The first involved a 47-year-old man who bought a plan with RM2.1 million medical coverage and riders until age 100.

Despite staggered premium increases under Bank Negara Malaysia’s (BNM) interim measures from RM4,000 to RM5,600 annually in five years, his coverage period was cut until age 64.

“When he complained to BNM and the insurance company, the insurer explained that the projection was merely a ‘sales illustration’ and even the most optimistic assumption at purchase (9 per cent returns for the first 20 years) could only sustain coverage until age 68,” Sim said in a statement today.

The second case involved a 45-year-old woman who also purchased a medical plan with RM2.1 million coverage and riders until age 100.

Her premium increases of 40 per cent were staggered (RM300 to RM420 annually over five years), but coverage was cut to age 59.

“Even after trying to negotiate a reduction in coverage to RM1 million, the insurer only lowered her premium by RM2.40. This forced the customer to accept unfair terms,” said Sim.

The third case involved a 59-year-old man who received notice that his new RM3,600 annual premium would only last two years. He was asked to top up drastically, paying RM8,580 (138 per cent increase) for coverage until age 81 or RM10,800 (200 per cent increase) until age 90.

Sim said these three cases showed insurers’ overly optimistic profit projections when selling investment-linked products.

“Many plans assume returns of up to 9 per cent annually for 20 consecutive years. In reality, actual returns were much lower than projected, leaving funds insufficient to cover protection costs. As a result, insurers drastically shortened coverage periods,” he explained.

“This means when policyholders retire in their 60s, when medical coverage is most needed, they are ‘abandoned’ by insurers.

“In fact, BNM issued a circular in July 2019 to regulate these investment-linked products. However, problems still affect policyholders who bought their plans before 2019. Therefore, I urge BNM to find solutions for pre-2019 cases.

“Under Section 155(b) of the Financial Services Act 2013 (FSA), Bank Negara must issue directives if a company conducts business in a way that harms the interests of depositors, policyholders, participants, consumers, creditors, or the public at large.”

The Pakatan Harapan MP warned that failure to resolve these issues could cause more T20 income earners to shift to public hospitals.

Kuala Lumpur Hospital (HKL) director Dr Harikrishna KR Nair told Berita Harian in an interview that HKL, the country’s biggest hospital, was seeing a rise in T20 and VIP patients, who had shifted from private hospitals to HKL over the past 10 years when their treatment exceeded insurance coverage.

He attributed this to an increase in medicine prices.

Another reason for wealthier people shifting to HKL was to seek oncology services in the government hospital with robotic technology. HKL receives two million patients a year and has 2,300 beds.

Health Minister Dzulkefly Ahmad told reporters yesterday that rising health insurance premiums could be a reason why T20 income earners are increasingly seeking treatment in public hospitals.
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funny la these agents. my agent herself say no point cover until 100, so mine only until age 70 kek.
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QUOTE(ornehx @ Sep 10 2025, 12:00 PM)
And another thing old ILP have very bad coverage.
I decided to shop for Standalone, online, agentless insurance. Bought in on Kaotim and gonna surrender my ILP soon, get the remaining investment portion and put in EPF mayb
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last I check standalone the premium will increase 25% every 5 years?
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 10 2025, 06:25 PM)
last I check standalone the premium will increase 25% every 5 years?
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so no difference with ILP as well?
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Sep 10 2025, 06:29 PM)
so no difference with ILP as well?
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ILP not locked in premium until 70 meh?
Mine does.

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insurance company auto cancel your medical card when you need it the most
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QUOTE(coyouth @ Sep 10 2025, 06:29 PM)
so no difference with ILP as well?
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got different what,
ILP - you give me extra money, i invest for you, charge management fee, if insurance cost increase i just take from your investment balance. if i need more money, i tell you
term insurance - you pay me, you got coverage. price is decided by me, i inform you if there is price increase, you dont want to pay, you got no coverage.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 10 2025, 06:32 PM)
ILP not locked in premium until 70 meh?
Mine does.
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but if you didnt topup when they inform you (you decided to pay lower amount as previous), your insurance will mature faster.
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Lol Salah Agen ni.

Btw nowadays bnm force all insurance companies to standardize projection to 5% only.
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 10 2025, 06:32 PM)
ILP not locked in premium until 70 meh?
Mine does.
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nothing is locked.... mine went up this year.... by 10%.
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Sep 10 2025, 11:04 AM)
that is why life insurance agent driving BMW and Benz.
People loves sweet talk + bonus miniskirt pretty agent.
While I sell traditional medical policy without all this sweet talk sweet projections people don't want to buy.
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Sep 10 2025, 11:50 AM)
> the insurer explained that the projection was merely a ‘sales illustration’

wow nice excuses for my arsenal
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Sep 10 2025, 12:58 PM)
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Sep 10 2025, 06:32 PM)
insurance company auto cancel your medical card when you need it the most
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ilp locked? lmao....
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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 10 2025, 07:48 PM)
funny la these agents. my agent herself say no point cover until 100, so mine only until age 70 kek.
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i also use ILP.. and its fine for me..
problem is unscrupulous agent give unrealistic projection,, with minimum starting premium
if using low risk fund.. get similar to EPF also good liao..

for me since year0 premium paid yearly is >50% higher than the life insurance + medical rider charge.. so touchwood.. now if no pay yearly also can sustain next ~15-20 years, even with medical keep increase

though insurance also mau more untung then yearly e-mail u ask consider revise to higher premium in order to be "sustainable", why bother.. calculate also dont see any such "unsustainable"

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she transparent enough to tell me that coverage until age 100 is useless. if you really need topup insurance once you 70yo, then only do it. why burn so much money when you may not live until 100 anyway.
hubby engaged with her long ago, got health insurance for myself as well.
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most will advise medical rider portion until 70.
becoz medical will increase with age.. beyond 70 even more drastic.. and will quick become unsustainable unless u yearly paying high premium margin..

even my medical mine also ends 70, but life portion till 100
so after 70 if critical illness yolo la.. juz die and next of kin can cash out the death benefit...
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QUOTE(cooldog_777 @ Sep 10 2025, 11:04 AM)
that is why life insurance agent driving BMW and Benz.
People loves sweet talk + bonus miniskirt pretty agent.
While I sell traditional medical policy without all this sweet talk sweet projections people don't want to buy.
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Can pm ??
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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Sep 10 2025, 08:09 PM)
most will advise medical rider portion until 70.
becoz medical will increase with age.. beyond 70 even more drastic.. and will quick become unsustainable unless u yearly paying high premium margin..

even my medical mine also ends 70, but life portion till 100
so after 70 if critical illness yolo la.. juz die and next of kin can cash out the death benefit...
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i rather take term insurance until 100 years, but its going to progressive premium increase, so every few years premium increase.
if i felt cant afford anymore (it can be another 10 years, 15 years, 20 years or more) then let go of the insurance.
ornehx
post Sep 10 2025, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 10 2025, 06:25 PM)
last I check standalone the premium will increase 25% every 5 years?
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Depending on age, for example for Kaotim Medikad there is a chart here https://kaotim.my/wp-content/uploads/2025/0...EN-22082025.pdf

My ILP 2 years ago increased 20%. This year wanna increase 30% before BNM warning. Summore the coverage is very poor.

At least standalone better coverage and current premium starts lower. Yes it will increase almost similar to ILP, but better coverage and lower starting point.

The agentless part. Same la. My agent used to be my mom's fren thats why buy and keep adding rider and stuff. Now she resigned and lost contact d. Some random agent assigned to me, keep messaging me asking me to add more stuff nia.
Pain4UrsinZ
post Sep 10 2025, 09:19 PM

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my medical also gg, From age 99 cut until 69, im age 35 now. should get the medical from new agency with new pool ?

This post has been edited by Pain4UrsinZ: Sep 10 2025, 09:20 PM
westernkl
post Sep 10 2025, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 10 2025, 11:14 AM)
Main beneficiaries of insurance are the agents first.
Company second.
Policy holder third.

Mainly due to policy holder not understanding the fine print of what they signed up for.
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Dafak???
TScoyouth
post Sep 11 2025, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(ornehx @ Sep 10 2025, 08:57 PM)
Depending on age, for example for Kaotim Medikad there is a chart here https://kaotim.my/wp-content/uploads/2025/0...EN-22082025.pdf

My ILP 2 years ago increased 20%. This year wanna increase 30% before BNM warning. Summore the coverage is very poor.

At least standalone better coverage and current premium starts lower. Yes it will increase almost similar to ILP, but better coverage and lower starting point.

The agentless part. Same la. My agent used to be my mom's fren thats why buy and keep adding rider and stuff. Now she resigned and lost contact d. Some random agent assigned to me, keep messaging me asking me to add more stuff nia.
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this is very interesting to know, in terms of the better coverage thingy.

 

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