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post Aug 31 2025, 10:29 PM, updated 4 months ago

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quick question, there is one prospect requested me to install 2 new airconds. My property is landed. Rental RM 2500

Tenure just 1 year. If I increase my asking rent by RM 500, is it too little or too much>?

by considering the cost of airconds, hacking the wall to "pull" the new wiring , installation , and the changing of the new fuse box etc etc as the power consumption is increasing.

and the hassle.

Takut nanti after few months MIA, the deposits cant even cover.

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post Aug 31 2025, 10:59 PM

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Kek. Landed with no aircon pre installed before rent out
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Buy china brand aux or Hisense request for affordable option
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QUOTE(kesvani @ Aug 31 2025, 10:59 PM)
Kek. Landed with no aircon pre installed before rent out
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don't understand "2 NEW airconds" ? use brain before use hand to type any reply. doubt you have it.
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kswee @ Aug 31 2025, 11:20 PM)
Buy china brand aux or Hisense request for affordable option
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oh ok. But the installation cost a bomb sweat.gif
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 1 2025, 12:25 AM)
oh ok. But the installation cost a bomb sweat.gif
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Market for installation is around 300-400 haven't include length of copper and wiring . 1 feet is around rm25-35


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post Aug 31 2025, 11:35 PM

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Why requested to change? Existing unit too weak or non-inverter type and prospect concern of higher electrical consumption?
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(dylan_chng @ Aug 31 2025, 11:35 PM)
Why requested to change? Existing unit too weak or non-inverter type and prospect concern of higher electrical consumption?
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My unit got 4 airconds. she want another 2 more. total 6. my electrician say need to check the main fuse. later cannot tahan the whole house explode. ahahaha.
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(kswee @ Aug 31 2025, 11:29 PM)
Market for installation is around 300-400 haven't include length of copper and wiring . 1 feet is around rm25-35
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sorry. I mean the process of install. need hack the wall, extending the wiring, additional switch etc etc.... like mini renovation ady.
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:42 PM

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hw many hp?.. shud now like AUX or Gree (Daikin tech.) be ok .. around RM300 increase for another 12 months tenant staying hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 31 2025, 11:42 PM)
hw many hp?.. shud now like AUX or Gree (Daikin tech.) be ok .. around RM300 increase for another 12 months tenant staying  hmm.gif
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:47 PM

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dont install for them, if they dont have money to install themself, i am sure they dont have enough money to stay long if you raise the rental
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shud a firm agreement between both parties at first before installations too .. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 1 2025, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(rootbeer @ Aug 31 2025, 11:47 PM)
dont install for them, if they dont have money to install themself, i am sure they dont have enough money to stay long if you raise the rental
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ahh....that's what I thought too. I also got some feel want to tell them to fly kite. but think of rental money too. hahaha
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 1 2025, 12:33 AM)
ahh....that's what I thought too. I also got some feel want to tell them to fly kite. but think of rental money too. hahaha
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If I am in your situation, few consideration factors:

- What is the hp of aircond required
- how long is the new wiring and piping required
- must it be concealed or can do with external trunking if not too long the distance
- inverter or non inverter needed, which would depend on who pay the utilities bill

Also, need to factor in aircond with periodic services could last u at least 5yrs or the compressor usually has longer warranty period than tat. You could look at recuperating your cost in longer term and better prospects in attracting future tenants. Well, if the existing tenants ask for it, find out why they need extra aircond and tat could work out to become necessity in attracting future tenants.

Just my two sens.
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post Sep 1 2025, 07:49 AM

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Residential tenant comes with macam2 demand. A nicer word is 'request' 😅

Non residential tenants dont have these type of demand ... everything is diy.

Not sure why residential tenants are 'SPECIAL' that landlords have to ensure their comfort 😂

Gipping them the ac is not expensive with cheap brands BUT, BUT, BUT .... whether he can afford the utility bills that comes after the comfort.

Even if tenant wants to diy, U should increase the utility deposits to cover for unpaid bills 🤑

Alternatively, ask tenant to fix himself. At the end of TA, landlord buys the ac with agreed pricing after 1, 2 or 3 years tenancy, provided is in working condition. It saves landlord the headache with future tenants.

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QUOTE(swing123 @ Sep 1 2025, 12:45 AM)
If I am in your situation, few consideration factors:

- What is the hp of aircond required
- how long is the new wiring and piping required
- must it be concealed or can do with external trunking if not too long the distance
- inverter or non inverter needed, which would depend on who pay the utilities bil
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Also, need to factor in aircond with periodic services could last u at least 5yrs or the compressor usually has longer warranty period than tat. You could look at recuperating your cost in longer term and better prospects in attracting future tenants. Well, if the existing tenants ask for it, find out why they need extra aircond and tat could work out to become necessity in attracting future tenants.

Just my two sens.
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notes taken. Thank you so much!!!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 1 2025, 07:49 AM)
Residential tenant comes with macam2 demand. A nicer word is 'request' 😅

Non residential tenants dont have these type of demand ... everything is diy.

Not sure why residential tenants are 'SPECIAL' that landlords have to ensure their comfort 😂

Gipping them the ac is not expensive with cheap brands BUT, BUT, BUT .... whether he can afford the utility bills that comes after the comfort.

Even if tenant wants to diy, U should increase the utility deposits to cover for unpaid bills 🤑

Alternatively, ask tenant to fix himself. At the end of TA, landlord buys the ac with agreed pricing after 1, 2 or 3 years tenancy, provided is in working condition. It saves landlord the headache with future tenants.
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all the notes taken. Thank you so much!!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

ahh.... can buy back the aircond. never think of it. good insight thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Sep 1 2025, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 1 2025, 07:49 AM)
Residential tenant comes with macam2 demand. A nicer word is 'request' 😅

Non residential tenants dont have these type of demand ... everything is diy.

Not sure why residential tenants are 'SPECIAL' that landlords have to ensure their comfort 😂

Gipping them the ac is not expensive with cheap brands BUT, BUT, BUT .... whether he can afford the utility bills that comes after the comfort.

Even if tenant wants to diy, U should increase the utility deposits to cover for unpaid bills 🤑

Alternatively, ask tenant to fix himself. At the end of TA, landlord buys the ac with agreed pricing after 1, 2 or 3 years tenancy, provided is in working condition. It saves landlord the headache with future tenants.
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not really sure where your complain comes from. The market is always willing seller willing buyer. If you have the nego power of course squeeze to max, only naive ones will hand soft.
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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Sep 1 2025, 12:54 PM)
not really sure where your complain comes from. The market is always willing seller willing buyer. If you have the nego power of course squeeze to max, only naive ones will hand soft.
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Don't waste time with residential tenants. Squeezed till balls swollen when landlord desperate. After 6 months, open new thread say no pay rent and utility.🤣

Non residential tenants normally will rent as is basis. Not to say there will be no problems but not those chicken feet headache 😲
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Aug 31 2025, 10:29 PM)
quick question, there is one prospect requested me to install 2 new airconds. My property is landed. Rental RM 2500

Tenure just 1 year. If I increase my asking rent by RM 500, is it too little or too much>?

by considering the cost of airconds, hacking the wall to "pull" the new wiring , installation , and the changing of the new fuse box etc etc as the power consumption is increasing.

and the hassle.

Takut nanti after few months MIA, the deposits cant even cover.
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ask them go fly kite
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post Sep 1 2025, 02:01 PM

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Raise the rental 250 for let's said aircon cost RM2500. You will ROI within a year.

Or else

Ask tenant to install by themselves (with no raise rental)
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post Sep 1 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(giftfre @ Sep 1 2025, 02:01 PM)
Raise the rental 250 for let's said aircon cost RM2500. You will ROI within a year.

Or else

Ask tenant to install by themselves (with no raise rental)
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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Sep 1 2025, 12:54 PM)
not really sure where your complain comes from. The market is always willing seller willing buyer. If you have the nego power of course squeeze to max, only naive ones will hand soft.
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Next time start the rental with basic fittings, then increased according to special request. See got soft hand 🤑

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Tell them..
Want 2 additional AC...

Then better pay up 3k rental or more...


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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 1 2025, 08:21 PM)
Tell them..
Want 2 additional AC...

Then better pay up 3k rental or more...
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ok. I think I just tell them increase by Rm 800 / one month utility deposit. take it or leave it.

and look for not so demanding tenant. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Aug 31 2025, 10:29 PM)
quick question, there is one prospect requested me to install 2 new airconds. My property is landed. Rental RM 2500

Tenure just 1 year. If I increase my asking rent by RM 500, is it too little or too much>?

by considering the cost of airconds, hacking the wall to "pull" the new wiring , installation , and the changing of the new fuse box etc etc as the power consumption is increasing.

and the hassle.

Takut nanti after few months MIA, the deposits cant even cover.
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Tell them rent 3K, don't like then don't rent.
Willing buyer, willing seller. Can always look for new prospect tenant. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2025, 02:13 AM

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i probably would not do so much calculation
I might pay in advance, becoz that aircon still belong to the owner.
However, it must agree that, if Tenant end the Tenancy
- within 6 mths, They must pay RM1600 as compensation. RM800 each.
- within 1 year, They must pay RM1200, RM600 each
- within 2 years, they must pay RM800, RM400 each
(these number are jz giving an idea...you may lower the number)
**Take the compensation in adv, if u may

as mentioned. Aircons are still urs. They pay the electricity right? I see no harm

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post Sep 3 2025, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 3 2025, 02:13 AM)
i probably would not do so much calculation
I might pay in advance, becoz that aircon still belong to the owner.
However, it must agree that, if Tenant end the Tenancy
- within 6 mths, They must pay RM1600 as compensation. RM800 each.
- within 1 year, They must pay RM1200, RM600 each
- within 2 years, they must pay RM800, RM400 each
(these number are jz giving an idea...you may lower the number)
**Take the compensation in adv, if u may

as mentioned. Aircons are still urs. They pay the electricity right? I see no harm
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How many tenants will pay compensations to landlord after the end of tenancy other than forced deductions from security deposits, if there is any left to deduct 😂

Tenants are smarter now knowing some landlords won't refund security deposits and they just don't pay rent for the last 2-3 months.

Even the best tenant will argue till zebra stripes change to polka dot to pay any compensation. 🤣

Even the best worded contract can be breached, if there is intention.
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later aircon maintenance service etcs who pay?
normally rm200 per year per unit...
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post Sep 3 2025, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(vaksin @ Sep 3 2025, 08:16 AM)
later aircon maintenance service etcs who pay?
normally rm200 per year per unit...
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Who use who pay la. If they don't use all the Aircon, then status quo ma
QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 3 2025, 07:47 AM)
How many tenants will pay compensations to landlord after the end of tenancy other than forced deductions from security deposits, if there is any left to deduct 😂

Tenants are smarter now knowing some landlords won't refund security deposits and they just don't pay rent for the last 2-3 months.

Even the best tenant will argue till zebra stripes change to polka dot to pay any compensation. 🤣

Even the best worded contract can be breached, if there is intention.
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Then just take in advance lo. Return by stages in rental lor. Fair ma

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Due diligent first. Why need to add another 2? Current 4 not cold enough? How many people will stay there later? Later become bangla apartment with 30-50 person inside
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 3 2025, 11:18 AM)
Then just take in advance lo. Return by stages in rental lor. Fair ma
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Pay in advance is like asking the tenant to diy. Why the mafan lor ?
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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 3 2025, 11:18 AM)
Then just take in advance lo. Return by stages in rental lor. Fair ma
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Pay in advance is like asking the tenant to diy. Why the mafan lor ?
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 3 2025, 11:57 AM)
Pay in advance is like asking the tenant to diy. Why the mafan lor ?
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? Diy is tenant to pay
Take in advance, u are paying. The adv on Aircon is gonna flow back to tenant, somehow. Compensate will only happen only if tenant move out within 2 years
On top of this, you may ask RM10-RM30 extra on monthly rental thou if u bohsong.
At the end of the day, you can walk away with the deal. If not, The extra Aircon will become additional feature to the unit. Win win gua

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 3 2025, 12:21 PM)
? Diy is tenant to pay
Take in advance, u are paying. The adv on Aircon is gonna flow back to tenant, somehow. Compensate will only happen only if tenant move out within 2 years
On top of this, you may ask RM10-RM30 extra on monthly rental thou if u bohsong.
At the end of the day, you can walk away with the deal. If not, The extra Aircon will become additional feature to the unit. Win win gua
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Ask tenant to find another place. Don't have to deal with chicken feet problem.
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Aug 31 2025, 10:29 PM)
Tenure just 1 year. If I increase my asking rent by RM 500, is it too little or too much>?
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1 year, total RM6,000.00. That is too much. Tenant would be better off to install themselves and take it out when they leave. The downside is, you can't control how the installation is done.

As landlord, ultimately it is for long term. So, increase minimal for current tenant, example RM150. Make it known to current tenant, subsequent year it will be RM200. If he leaves at the end of tenancy, then next tenant you can increase or maintain. At the end of the day, look at your market demand of your neighboring units. Look at recovering your cost over a 2-3 year period.

If you install on your own, you can decide how neat and tidy you want it to be. If tenant sendiri pasang, then when tenant leaves and remove, you will have lots of holes in many parts of your wall.

 

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