Dayum… why europe like CCP EV scam?
BYD🚗sales TRIPLE in europe within a year😳
BYD🚗sales TRIPLE in europe within a year😳
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Aug 31 2025, 03:03 PM, updated 4 months ago
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Dayum… why europe like CCP EV scam? |
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Aug 31 2025, 03:24 PM
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AMDK NPC cant accept the truth.
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Aug 31 2025, 03:52 PM
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This guy's channel only harps on Chinese EVs. apa "truth" you talking about?
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Aug 31 2025, 04:00 PM
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But BYD revenue down for first time in past 3.5 years
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Aug 31 2025, 04:11 PM
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SemiBarbie : We don't throw prices here!
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Aug 31 2025, 04:15 PM
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If I got money I buy Camry 2.5 Hybrid...
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Aug 31 2025, 04:19 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 04:20 PM
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CCP scam already go big at eu scamming omputih
But still byd numba wan |
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Aug 31 2025, 04:24 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 04:25 PM
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how about their sales growth in last 3 months?
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Aug 31 2025, 04:28 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 04:52 PM
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Real sale or fake data from a known ccp agent. We know byd and some other manufacturer fake the sales number in Chyna with 0 miles second hand car
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Aug 31 2025, 09:33 PM
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ICEV legacy carmakers r struggling n gasping for survival. Temporarily saved by hybrid but eventually would be annihilated by EV & solar, just a matter of time.
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Aug 31 2025, 09:49 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 31 2025, 09:33 PM) ICEV legacy carmakers r struggling n gasping for survival. Temporarily saved by hybrid but eventually would be annihilated by EV & solar, just a matter of time. Will EVs be as reliable as ICEV though?like 15-20 years still can run? If not, then ICEV will still be around. |
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Aug 31 2025, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 31 2025, 09:51 PM) Will EVs be as reliable as ICEV though? in a big part, it doesn't matter if EVs are as reliable...like 15-20 years still can run? If not, then ICEV will still be around. the question is whether traditional ICE car makers can withstand the loss of sales and remain solvent for the immediate future... if any brand/maker go bust, its hard to come back. I hope they remain around forever, cos i really prefer ICE cars still. |
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Aug 31 2025, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Aug 31 2025, 10:00 PM) in a big part, it doesn't matter if EVs are as reliable... pretty sure ICE will still be around for another 30 yearsthe question is whether traditional ICE car makers can withstand the loss of sales and remain solvent for the immediate future... if any brand/maker go bust, its hard to come back. I hope they remain around forever, cos i really prefer ICE cars still. |
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Aug 31 2025, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 31 2025, 09:51 PM) Will EVs be as reliable as ICEV though? AI Overviewlike 15-20 years still can run? If not, then ICEV will still be around. Yes, EVs are generally more reliable and experience fewer breakdowns than Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles, according to 2024 and 2025 data from organizations like the German Automobile Club (ADAC). This higher reliability is attributed to EVs having simpler mechanical designs with fewer moving parts, such as no engine oil, mufflers, or complex transmissions, which reduces potential failure points compared to ICE vehicles. Why EVs are More Reliable: Fewer Moving Parts: Electric vehicles have significantly fewer mechanical components than ICE vehicles, which reduces the likelihood of wear and tear and potential breakdowns. Simpler Drivetrain: EVs do not require complex systems like engines, exhaust systems, or transmissions, which are common sources of problems in ICE vehicles. Reduced Maintenance: The absence of oil changes and other routine engine-related maintenance further contributes to EV reliability. Smoother Operation: The instant torque and lack of gear shifts in electric motors result in a smoother driving experience, which is a sign of fewer mechanical stresses on the vehicle. Data Supporting EV Reliability: ADAC Data: Analysis of repair service data by the ADAC in Germany found that EVs function more reliably and have fewer breakdowns than ICE vehicles. Reduced Breakdown Risk: Statistics show that the chance of breaking down in an EV is less than half that of an ICE vehicle. In summary, the inherent simplicity and robust design of electric powertrains make them a more reliable choice compared to the intricate mechanical systems of traditional gasoline and diesel engines. This post has been edited by MGM: Aug 31 2025, 10:20 PM |
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Aug 31 2025, 10:28 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 10:29 PM
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Aug 31 2025, 11:01 PM
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Not much improvement in ICEV tech n costing but EV n battery tech keep on improving n getting cheaper.
AI Overview +5 Electric Vehicles Are Way, Way More Energy-Efficient Than ... Electric vehicles (EVs) are significantly more energy-efficient than Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles (ICEVs), losing only about 15-20% of energy compared to the 64-75% or more lost in gasoline engines, primarily due to heat and mechanical friction. EVs convert a higher percentage of their stored energy into motion, and regenerative braking recovers additional energy, while ICEVs waste energy through incomplete combustion, exhaust heat, and idling. Energy Losses in ICEVs Heat & Friction: A substantial portion of the energy from gasoline is lost as heat and through friction within the numerous moving parts of the engine and transmission. Incomplete Combustion: The process of burning fuel in an ICE is not perfectly efficient, leading to some fuel energy not being converted into useful work. Mechanical Losses: ICEVs use a complex transmission with multiple gears to convert reciprocating piston motion into rotary motion, a process that inherently causes mechanical losses. Idling: When an ICE vehicle is idling, its engine is still running, consuming fuel without any forward motion, which is a complete waste of energy. Exhaust: The hot exhaust gases escaping the vehicle carry away a significant amount of the energy from the fuel. Energy Losses in EVs Electric Drive System: The primary source of loss in an EV is the electric drive system itself, but these losses (around 15-20%) are minimal compared to an ICE. Charging Losses: Some energy is lost during the process of charging the battery from the grid, though this is generally a smaller percentage of overall energy use. Auxiliary Components: Like ICEVs, EVs also have losses from auxiliary components such as lights, audio systems, and other electrical systems. Battery Management: Losses can also occur in the power electronics and battery management system. Why EVs Are More Efficient Simpler Powertrain: Electric motors are simpler and more direct, converting electrical energy into rotational motion with far less internal friction and fewer mechanical components than an ICE. Regenerative Braking: EVs can recapture kinetic energy during deceleration and braking, storing it back in the battery for later use. This energy would otherwise be lost as heat in an ICE vehicle. Instant Torque & Simpler Gearing: The wide RPM range of an electric motor allows for single-gear operation, eliminating the power losses associated with gear changes and traditional multi-gear transmissions found in ICEVs. No Idling: When an EV is stopped, its motor does not need to run, resulting in zero energy consumption while stationary. |
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Aug 31 2025, 11:35 PM
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Sohai AI anwer
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Sep 1 2025, 02:12 AM
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thank you europe. ccp everyday can spy liao.
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Sep 5 2025, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Aug 31 2025, 03:52 PM) niama TS maxcavalera only hisap ccp channel and open sohai scammer fake news tered like this .. hari hari ev until now sendiri still no buy ev ptuihhThis post has been edited by phunkydude: Sep 5 2025, 05:01 AM |
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