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Phoenix_KL
post Aug 30 2025, 04:51 PM

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Malaysian archaeological sites are sensitive because of the rapid pace of economic development, which poses a threat of destruction from construction projects like highways and housing estates.

Furthermore, the historical sites often involve non-Islamic monuments from previous Hindu and Buddhist civilizations, which can create cultural friction and objections from the predominantly Muslim local population, hindering conservation efforts for sites like the Bujang Valley. Limited resources, insufficient formal management plans, and a lack of skilled experts also present significant challenges to preserving these sites.

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post Aug 30 2025, 06:11 PM

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maybe we have ancient ruins but underneath all the forests.
gotta wait somebody spend money to LIDAR from air like they did in Amazon Forest.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-natu...-air-180980142/
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post Aug 30 2025, 06:49 PM

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Our land not fertile for supporting large civilization. Thailand and indochina have the big river basin like india, and indonesia have volcanic soil. Both type of soil very fertile and easy for agriculture. Malay peninsula mostly red clay soil very compact and low fertility, only support tropical forest. That's why most malay kingdom were near the shore and farm small2 only.
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post Aug 30 2025, 06:59 PM

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post Aug 30 2025, 07:20 PM

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Well, some people cannot accept the Malay origin history before Islam
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post Aug 30 2025, 07:47 PM

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There’s one in endau rompin that supposedly eclipses even Angkor Wat. But why it’s not revealed is soalan paling susah whistling.gif
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post Aug 30 2025, 08:03 PM

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Alliens never visited malaya to teach our ancestors how to build impressive structures maybe too low iq.
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post Aug 30 2025, 10:43 PM

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Just use logic and common sense. Enough said.
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post Aug 30 2025, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 30 2025, 12:44 PM)
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60000 TAHUN
WAY BEFORE ADAM
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they live with dinasour issit? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 31 2025, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Aug 30 2025, 10:50 PM)
they live with dinasour issit?  biggrin.gif
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last dinosaurs period is around 66 million years ago

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post Aug 31 2025, 03:50 PM

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Everywhere was covered in lush jungle. And that is not a bad thing. If a structure is abandoned, within a decade it would disappear from the map. See Mimaland.
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post Aug 31 2025, 04:37 PM

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Anything contrary to holier than thou teaching is destroyed and eradicated from history book.

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post Aug 31 2025, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Aug 30 2025, 01:07 PM)
Because the climate wasn't hospitable.

The largest civilisations tended to have wide open spaces to farm and build. The peninsular is heavily covered in jungle and that limits settlements to rivers, and also expose people to malaria. Even until the 19th century, very few roads connected the interior.

When people think malaysia is hospitable, they just mean its warm. Ironically the inhospitability resulted in the low population count, which then meant that there were no large wars.
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Then how you explain the Mayan ruins? Same climate
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QUOTE(kimochi ii @ Aug 31 2025, 04:49 PM)
Then how you explain the Mayan ruins? Same climate
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Same population? My Google gave really big differences between number of Mayan, Majapahit and (for example) Malaccan populations.
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post Aug 31 2025, 11:09 PM

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Our rain forest (including Borneo’s) is actually one of the oldest thou if I’m not mistaken.
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Aug 30 2025, 04:51 PM)
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Malaysian archaeological sites are sensitive because of the rapid pace of economic development, which poses a threat of destruction from construction projects like highways and housing estates.

Furthermore, the historical sites often involve non-Islamic monuments from previous Hindu and Buddhist civilizations, which can create cultural friction and objections from the predominantly Muslim local population, hindering conservation efforts for sites like the Bujang Valley. Limited resources, insufficient formal management plans, and a lack of skilled experts also present significant challenges to preserving these sites.
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currently there are some which are made public

1. Bujang Valley, Kedah
2. Sungai Batu Archaeological Site, Kedah
3. Lenggong Valley, Perak
4. Guar Kepah, Penang

source: https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...end-2024/134279

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An aerial view of the Guar Kepah Archaeological Gallery expected to open to public by end 2024. — Picture courtesy of Wong Hon Wai’s office

5. Bukit Choras, Kedah

source: https://www.optionstheedge.com/topic/cultur...t-choras-temple

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post Sep 1 2025, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Aug 30 2025, 10:48 AM)
I'm curious about this. Peninsular Malaysia is situated at the geographic center of the Malay archipelago and also the entire Southeast Asian region. The region is relatively safe from natural disasters. The climate is hospitable. We've not had destructive wars in our history.

Why does does Peninsular Malaysia have so little ancient ruins? You compare to Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam and Indonesia. We don't have anything notable compared to our neighbours to tie us back to ancient times. Why is that so?
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weather too hot and humid

nobody want to build big castles, nanti body overheat
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post Sep 1 2025, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Aug 30 2025, 01:07 PM)
Because the climate wasn't hospitable.

The largest civilisations tended to have wide open spaces to farm and build. The peninsular is heavily covered in jungle and that limits settlements to rivers, and also expose people to malaria. Even until the 19th century, very few roads connected the interior.

When people think malaysia is hospitable, they just mean its warm. Ironically the inhospitability resulted in the low population count, which then meant that there were no large wars.
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this, the assumption was that Malay peninsula had a large civilisation base which AFAIK from history we never had anything large

another would be that the jungles already overgrown and hide whatever things they built and remain undiscovered
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post Sep 1 2025, 01:35 PM

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learn geography first. with how dense the forest is, u expect candi here n there , kek
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post Sep 1 2025, 01:55 PM

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Read the Toba Eruption Theory.
And yes.. LIDAR would be amazing

 

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