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 So I fell for a scam...not an investment scam., (final update)

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TSTsubakiKira
post Aug 27 2025, 02:14 PM, updated 3 months ago

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Man it's been ages since I used lowyat forum, but I need to get this off my chest before my stress spirals over.

TLDR: Got misled by someone impersonating as police, got scammed into buying jewelry and pawning for cash and carrying out third party transfer, and awaiting the results of the police investigation.

Going to break this down into points for easier reading.

1. I got a call in mid-July from a handphone number with a person claiming that my info has been leaked and used to sell fake goods on Shopee, then I was directed to a balai polis Pahang. They claimed that they had some voice recording for purposes of court, and had a video call stating that there was an arrest order for me given by the court. In the same video call, there was a female police officer showing pictures of suspects, asking me if I know anyone of them. This then went up to a Tuan Inspector N**** (which i later checked to be an actual inspector in Pahang) and then subsequently to some a**hole named ACP Dato Fahmi (egoistic soab). They also asked me that I was to be a part of a police investigation in order to prove that my finances are clean. They also asked how much is the max credit given.

They made it very clear as this was under the secrets act, they did not want me to reveal details to anyone, not even my family members.

As they somehow knew that I had a kid, they asked me if I wanted to end up in prison. Given how I was emotionally, I didn't think twice about helping them out, so.....

2. They asked if I could take leave from work, and I did. They then called me, making sure that that I was not within earshot of anyone, and proceeded to tell me to
a) buy jewelry using my credit cards
b) pawn said jewelry
c) transfer to a third party bank account, they issued a document under Bank Negara Malaysia with some details
d) get proof of transfer.

And I stupidly went through all that. This took place again 2 weeks later, they claimed they were in court to assist and everything. They also reassured me that the auditing department will clear them as how it is when we are assisting the government. Yada Yada.....

3. They also asked me to apply for a personal loan, and I got 12k from AEON. Again this is transferred like in No 2.

After I was done with these tasks, there was barely anything which raised my suspicion (only now), and I asked the police near my workplace, they confirmed that it was a scam. Luckily being the recorder that I am, I took a record of all the transactions done, the loan applied, everything and filed a police report last Saturday. I already submitted the records of all the purchases and transfers as requested by the police, and went to all banks involved (credit card and savings account). From what I have heard, as the transaction was genuine, the banks are unable to dispute and I will have to bear the brunt of it one way or another. I can only remain hopeful that the inspector in charge of my case can retrieve most of the cash, but what I have heard was that if it was an online transfer, it can be very difficult. I did get their names and account numbers though.

4. After the whole incident, i called that person (directly, not whatsapp) who used another number to call me 2 weeks ago but truecaller and that is how I came to confirm that it was a scam.

The whole purpose of me writing this is to remind, and to remind myself that sometimes I need to be cynical instead of overly emotional. I'm finding my way to deal with this.

Update: my bank just called me and they told me that they are unable to retrieve the money from the scammers accounts, so the police will have to arrest these people. From what I know, the telephone numbers are prepaid, and bought by foreigners. Fuck I had hope of getting the money to settle the cards.

Update update: police can only issue arrest warrant, up to bank's jurisdiction on whether to give money or no. Yep I'm fucked.

Update*3: getting grilled from my dad about it. Everything just makes me want to puke at this point.

Last update: got some money from my dad, have to repay him back at some point. gonna bear the brunt of the personal loan and the other cc via instalment pay for the next 7 years altogether. get lucky and pay off slowly i guess. if got lump sum settle the other cc before loan.


PSA 1: Double and triple check the numbers using Truecaller. If Truecaller wasn't reliable (like the first round). then always ask for their officer number. Double check with police officers using your IC number if there is anything against you.

PSA 2: Don't let them fool you using your loved ones, like me.

PSA 3: Anything involving third-party transfers is a HUGE RED FLAG OK.

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All I can do is pray that I get to sort this out one way or another. And I still need to call AEON about possibly settling the personal loan earlier. Fuck.

This post has been edited by TsubakiKira: Sep 17 2025, 09:30 AM
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post Aug 27 2025, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(tataunama @ Aug 27 2025, 02:21 PM)
Have you contacted the National Scam Response Centre (NSRC) at 997 ?
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Called them but they did not pickup.
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post Aug 27 2025, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(taufoo @ Aug 27 2025, 02:27 PM)
Dang. Sorry to hear. Yes alot of ppl get scammed because they leverage on your emotions at that moment.

I previously got scammed by my high school classmate who used to work in bank. He secretly do insider trading for the purpose of scamming people.

I trusted him because back in school he's a genuinely nice guy. Seems like greed changes people.

Anyways I only lost 3k.
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Lucky for you, I lost 20k+
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post Aug 27 2025, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Aug 27 2025, 02:37 PM)
I would recommend all not to answer any calls not in your contacts.
Have a missed call then check truecaller, then check for whatapps in the truecaller feature.
If a mobile number dont have whatapps, ignore or block.
If the caller ID is no one you know, ignore or block.
It may be fun to pick up and play along, but Scammers are very creative and one day you might be fooled.
Even a recording of your voice can be used by AI for scamming.
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Learnt this the hard way.
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post Aug 27 2025, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Aug 27 2025, 02:41 PM)
sorry to hear that TS . stay strong . Hopefully you'll bounce back . A good thing is you have realized and spreading awareness here. Many out there are still oblivious to these scams.
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That is true. I didn't download any funny apps or click on any phishing links, but I still got good.
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post Aug 27 2025, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 27 2025, 02:50 PM)
Any one still need truecaller = waterfish ready to be scammed anytime anywhere.

The only thing that is solif bullet scam proof for every1 = IQ + Logical Sense + Confidence. Nothing else.
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I probably should be more cynical and ask for details all the way. That is my fault.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Aug 27 2025, 03:12 PM)
did i read wrong, They (inspector) also asked me to apply for a personal loan and transfer. sound like give money for settlement
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Again, under the pretext of ensuring finances are clear. Like I said everything went haywire the moment they brought up my family and kid. Fuckers.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Aug 27 2025, 03:15 PM)
losing 20k and if young can still recover ok la....
not end of the world
those retirees lost over 100k  all their retirement lifesavings got no way to recover if kena scammed

work hard and smart, hope they catch the scammers.
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That is true. Working for the money isn't my worry, it's actually the cards that are due payment next month....because accruing interest.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Aug 27 2025, 03:20 PM)
Is the first initial call using mobile phone?

If it is then should ignore
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The first call was under shopee manager, so I picked up without thinking twice.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 27 2025, 03:19 PM)
1. logical.  if you cant brain this, why cant ask a 2nd person to help you "clarify" this ?

2. even you dont have any friend who can trust, TRY CHATGPT. give it 30sec, it can fully explain why this is a "very common scam tactic" , and this is FREE consultation.

3. dont have lawyer friend? do you have extra RM500 to spend? 2 hour simple query, cost round this price. for a normal solicitator.. or even criminal lawyer.
You dont have to be HIGH IQ, but if your logical sense still working, you know, how to seek "extra opinion" for clarity.
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I already said that it was not with clear conscience as they brought up my kid and they warned me to not share with others. I know how stupid it was.

Thanks for making a point.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Aug 27 2025, 03:34 PM)
Just dont pick up any unknown number, did this for the past decade. If thing is really critical, u will received official letter or the authority will visit u directly
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Thanks for the advice, will take note of this in future.
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post Aug 27 2025, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Thebestscammer @ Aug 27 2025, 03:43 PM)
what was the thought process when u hear the part where they want u to buy jewelery then pawn it then transfer to the Bank acc?
like what did you think was gonna happen that you need to do that step?
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They came up with a document with Bank Negara Malaysia logo, the auditors details and some instructions on the necessity of the transaction. I was just stupid okay.
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post Aug 27 2025, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Aug 27 2025, 03:47 PM)
Last time when we are still using house phone and my mom receive a call telling her my brother have been kidnap and they play a kid voice calling mama for help and they ask her for ransom, luckily i was at home and end the call and go to school to look for my brother and he was at school

I also receive call before from pos office saying there is a parcel under my name and they actually give my correct full name + ic number and inform me they found other people ic in the packages i have send, during that time lucky i dint panic and then think of all these scam and i tell him to let me know he from which post office and i will personal go there and if he at other state i will lodge a polis repot. that fella say because i not co-operative so he will be logging a polis report and i tell him go ahead

Another scam is when receive a call and that somebody will say "hi friend long time no hear from you, how are you" and when you ask back him "who are you" that scammer will say "we friend so long you forget me already?" this scammer is waiting for you to give a name so he can pretend to be your friend and ask to borrow money

There are alot of scam and if you receive a call about anything regarding your self, you need to stay clam 1st don't panic and think too much. If you with your friend then open loud speaker so all people can hear and they might even alert you that this is a scam
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Again, something I will take note in the future. Thank you so much for the advice.

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post Aug 27 2025, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(hunt3r87 @ Aug 27 2025, 04:10 PM)
aduihiiiii, me kene 1k also feel sakit kapla. u 20k+ fuiyohhhhh. stay stonk brotherr. after this must be more carefull.
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Actually it really is just common sense like what one of the commentators said here.

Apa nak buat, nasi sudah jadi bubur. Hanya boleh doakan outcome of kes tu involve some money coming back to my end. Makes things less painful.
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post Aug 27 2025, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Aug 27 2025, 03:40 PM)
i lost 20k to a friend who stayed in same house literally living together in small island with interaction 24/7 7years. businessman n genuine nice also. then he ran away and my money also fly away till now.
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anything for greed actually. If it's painful for 20k to a stranger, I can't imagine what it's like for a friend.
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post Aug 27 2025, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 27 2025, 06:01 PM)
please talk to your partner about this.

You have bigger problem than the scam if u are unable to divulge this to your life partner.

If your partner choose to give u shit for this he/she is not a good partner.
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That is very true, there are a lot of other things involved as well that we're not been on the same page with and I fear will exacerbate the situation further moving forward with our lives. Going to wait for the bank/polis verdict in a few days before anything further.

Money aside, I actually took leave for these scammers bangwall.gif
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post Aug 27 2025, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 27 2025, 05:18 PM)
2. They asked if I could take leave from work, and I did. They then called me, making sure that that I was not within earshot of anyone, and proceeded to tell me to
a) buy jewelry using my credit cards
b) pawn said jewelry
c) transfer to a third party bank account, they issued a document under Bank Negara Malaysia with some details
d) get proof of transfer.


I already submitted the records of all the purchases and transfers as requested by the police, and went to all banks involved (credit card and savings account). From what I have heard, as the transaction was genuine, the banks are unable to dispute and I will have to bear the brunt of it one way or another.

sorry I don't get it...why need to do all this to get the whole transaction to become legit and bank can't take action?

after you pawned the monies, you still directly transferred to those scammer bank accounts.
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aku bodoh sebab impulsif dan tak terfikir dalam emosi yang terganggu, good enough?

I already know I'll get brickbats posting here.
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post Aug 27 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 27 2025, 06:42 PM)
no, I still don't understand why the scammer made you pawn stuff.

is it to avoid traceability or to raise money for you to pay them 20k ?

I can imagine a policeman asking me to pawn my watch to pay for a traffic fine. Highly unusual.
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avoid traceability. They are clever enough to delay the process so they can withdraw from the ATM once they got the money instead of asking for another transfer.
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post Aug 27 2025, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(bengang15 @ Aug 27 2025, 08:08 PM)
How much rugi wor
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20k++. lucky is not rugi outright from savings acc. but regardless am still fcuked depending on the bank and polis verdict on the case.
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post Aug 27 2025, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(gerald7 @ Aug 27 2025, 08:24 PM)
Im cynical and not really trusting esp when random ppl calling. last Nov I almost kena by this damn scammers. long story short I spent 1 hour on the line w/ them hooked all the way until they claim that there is a arrest warrant for me. Luckily that triggered me to wake up. And not get scammed.

I even submitted my voice recording to MCMC, to which they investigated and closed within 5 mins.

Stay strong OP, praying that its resolved soon.
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thanks for the wishes. I also want it to be resolved soon, whatever the outcome is.

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