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IT programmer in bank? Then no need think, terus go SG la...QUOTE(ByteKnight @ Aug 23 2025, 06:31 PM)
RM10k is also nothing in MY in 2025. Ayam serious.Dilemma: Malaysia Vs Singapore, Career choice in either SG or MY
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 23 2025, 03:22 PM) IT programmer in bank? Then no need think, terus go SG la...QUOTE(ByteKnight @ Aug 23 2025, 06:31 PM) RM10k is also nothing in MY in 2025. Ayam serious. |
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Aug 23 2025, 08:31 PM
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First thing u should consider is ur place of living at sg. The cost of rent vs ur msia. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 23 2025, 08:37 PM
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Go SG...your gf also there what? smokey and playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 23 2025, 11:13 PM
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Go SIngapore. You will learn a lot more things than working in a toxic environment based on skin colour. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 12:09 AM
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Aug 24 2025, 07:47 AM
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Ts... You say naik pangkat but tonwhat level? If naik to manager level then consider staying. Because getting manager level is a milestonenthat will unlock a lot of experience. If you go sg you still become Kuli. And in sg it's very hard to naik pangkat because it's competitive. Is say get manager level experience. Get the status in your resume first, then next time try again at job hopping also no problem. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 08:41 AM
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10k is nothing in malaysia go sg maybe can apply pr after few years playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 10:07 AM
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if you need resign to trigger their counter offer then i dont think they will automatically add you up to 20k in 5 years. echo-ing one of the reply here, we as a corporate slave are not important as we might think, although we might feel we are important after some words from the management. but once we quit, they can find other replacement in no time. what i m saying here is i would recommend to put that feeling aside when comparing 2 options. always compare what they offer now. regarding the comparison, i think you need to compare deeper into the lifestyle, whats the cost of stay there, what the rooms there feels like, whats the nett saving, whats the entertainment you need after tired work? rm10k is not much in 2025 but what kind of stay can you get with rm10k vs. 5.8k sgd in singapore? i think you can get more input from your gf . i dont think its simple as 5.8k*3. but if reputable good mnc then its good exposure. singapore also need to maintain high performance one, else why mnc pay you converted 18k+myr This post has been edited by NoobHacker: Aug 24 2025, 10:10 AM playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Emily Ratajkowski @ Aug 24 2025, 07:47 AM) Ts... You say naik pangkat but tonwhat level? If naik to manager level then consider staying. Because getting manager level is a milestonenthat will unlock a lot of experience. Assistant Manager level.If you go sg you still become Kuli. And in sg it's very hard to naik pangkat because it's competitive. Is say get manager level experience. Get the status in your resume first, then next time try again at job hopping also no problem. |
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Aug 24 2025, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 24 2025, 10:34 AM) Hmnn then up to you. Asst manager is still Kuli level. It just means youre considered for manager level. Manager really different level becaus youre in charge of a team. And that is usually a huge step up in responsibility and experience. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 11:57 AM
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Hi TS, As someone who have undergone similar path, I would advise you to go Sg based on your given pros and cons. Besides career and progression, you need to think on a macro level for your life, family and country. Would Malaysia be better off for you and your offsprings in the next decade or so? You will likely be jumping ships in Sg for higher salaries and all. Sg is still the better choice unless you are getting 20k in Malaysia vs 6k sgd in Singapore. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 12:19 PM
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TS, in your case I would remain in the current company in Malaysia. playnice96 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 23 2025, 03:22 PM) For IT related, I suggest going to SG if you intend to continue to go deeper into technical role. IT roles in Malaysia are somewhat more restrictive as Malaysia banks typically do not appreciate technical expertise as much. This is not limited to IT roles alone, specialised technical roles such as quants in Risk Management, structured product / derivative pricing and modelling roles are usually more valued in Singapore than in Malaysia, especially at the more senior levels. For management roles, I think Malaysia may offer a better path as effort to salary ratio is lesser. Plus, the salary gradient here is steeper when compared to Singapore. That is of course if you can get up to that level. playnice96 and rtk73 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 24 2025, 10:34 AM) AM at 10k? You must be at the top end of the salary band. The only AMs that I know that are at 10k are those who has been in the bank more than 15-20 years who has reached the salary cap based on union agreement.This post has been edited by DoomCognition: Aug 24 2025, 04:06 PM playnice96 and rtk73 liked this post
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Aug 24 2025, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 23 2025, 02:07 PM) Hi All, Singapore gives you regional and international exposure. My friend works for HP in Singapore but now is a local director and reports direct to US.Currently having a dilemma in my career choice. Tendered resignation after work passes approved in SG this week but got counter offer. Would like to seek opinions from sifus, which one would you all choose? Malaysia: MYR6,900 Banking industry Counter offer RM10,000 + 2 level promotion (which will increase my future increment) Benefits: 1) bank (iron rice bowl) 2) 3-6 mths bonus 3) 27 days annual leave 4) retirement benefit (last drawn salary X years worked) 5) 2% housing loan 6) very likely to reach 17k~20k & management level in 5 years time Consideration: 1) High tax bracket 2) economic/political concern? 3) less spending power compared to SG (vacation, gadgets) 4) need to maintain excellent performance due to high expectation Singapore: SGD5,800 Payment industry, MNC Benefits: 1) 1.5 mths bonus (can go up to 150% depending on performance) 2) 16 days annual leave, yearly +1 day until max 23 days 3) more spending power, x3.3 exchange rate 4) lower tax bracket 5) international exposure 6) reviews say more work life balance Consideration: 1) Told them the counter offer but they can't increase the budget due to salary being one of the main point for my work passes being approved 2) Career prospects unknown 3) GF is working at SG for 2 years already (3k SGD) 4) job security, seems like lots of SG MNC are moving their operations to SEA countries like Msia, Thai & Viet |
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KL need to rent? Is your family here? Any strong attachment to friends, family or gf ? playnice96 liked this post
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TS should map out the expenses MY vs SG and calculate future investments eg property, retirement etc Compare job package no use playnice96 liked this post
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QUOTE(playnice96 @ Aug 23 2025, 02:07 PM) Chinese? playnice96 liked this post
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Aug 24 2025, 04:15 PM) Singapore gives you regional and international exposure. My friend works for HP in Singapore but now is a local director and reports direct to US. Is a little too late in the gameNow 2025 All senior management positions so easy enter meh playnice96 liked this post
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 24 2025, 03:58 PM) For IT related, I suggest going to SG if you intend to continue to go deeper into technical role. IT roles in Malaysia are somewhat more restrictive as Malaysia banks typically do not appreciate technical expertise as much. This is not limited to IT roles alone, specialised technical roles such as quants in Risk Management, structured product / derivative pricing and modelling roles are usually more valued in Singapore than in Malaysia, especially at the more senior levels. This is one of the more astute and realistic posts in the thread.For management roles, I think Malaysia may offer a better path as effort to salary ratio is lesser. Plus, the salary gradient here is steeper when compared to Singapore. That is of course if you can get up to that level. TS could benefit by paying heed to DoomCognition's words. playnice96 liked this post
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