I'm debating if 5080 vs 5070, if its worth the extra dough. 10~20% inc for 2x the price 

Yup GPU beyond RTX5070ti is really not really worth it unless you have a lot of money to spend on half of your pc budget then sure go for it
Better spend the rest for CPU like 8700x3D.

5080 is about 30~40% more $$ then the 5070Ti?

High vram doesnt mean it will be use for gaming all the time, the advantage of having higher vram are when applying other setting like high texture on graphic setting usually will be consume a lot of vram or using for local AI stuff. Usually the cpu will start bottleneck first if you going for higher end gpu.

5070ti are good enough even for 4k gaming, because when you spend more money pass 5070ti price/performance are not really there if you have a budget tu spend. That why go for better CPU since GPU always the faster one to to be updating in future.

5090.... i only have 1 kidney left bro...  i need it 

So far end up with this, totalling about RM9,500.

Not very sure about the cooler, RAM, or PSU though. If need topup to 5080, thats another ~RM1700 (which frankly i might as well topup to 98003XD @ RM1k instead)

Specs
AMD 7800X3D
MSI B850M Gaming Plus
5070Ti GigaByte Windforce OC SFF 16G
FD Mestify 3 Black Solid
Jonsbo HX6280 Black
2 x 16 : Gskill Trident Z5 Neo (with AMD expo)
Corsair SF750 PCIE5.1 80+ Platinum SFX
Samsung 990 PRO (7.4/6.9)  2TB

then just get the cheapest case on shopee then. u get what you pay for 

i did try water cooling for myself using a monsta 360 radiator, but for me it wasn't worth it. primarily because u have to purchase the replacement water block for the graphics card and sometimes even for the cpu cooler.

fan cooler is just simpler. My fractal torrent at the time was the best fan cooling case (was it for 2021?). Just works and less complication.

when i did a stress test my own pc desktop,  max 75.5C, with a min of 52c. I use a frzn A720 cpu cooler in addition to the fractal torrent case (not even using an exhaust fan. just the default fans from front and bottom).
here is for more budget conscious users


interesting 2025 roundup by gamers nexus (dont worry he mentioned some budget varieties)

for myself when i'm looking at a case, i want to also know how it compare to other cases for cooling. example, gamers nexus did a comparison for my case. also the noise comparisons between cases (usually with the stock cooler fans)

i replaced my cpu, cpu cooler, ram and motherboard. but i didnt replace my fractal torrent case cause in 2025 it's still brilliant 

for the thermal charts it's indeed good for the price, but with some caveats (still ok unless the cons is an issue for you)
one difference between it and my case is where the hard drives get installed which is inside the case front side, just below the motherboard and beside the psu. whereas, mine has ample space BEHIND the motherboard, and i can install multiple 3.5'' and 2.5'' hard drives/ssds there. So unless you need the space to add more drives, then something like this lian li is not bad. Anyway typically these days there are few sata ports usually about 4. rest is usually for m.2 nvme ssd slots installed directly on the motherboard.

depends. not sure what u consider pricey. Also if u get a gen3 or gen4, it would be cheaper than a gen5. Then if you cap your purchase to 2tb at tops, then you can avoid those 4tb and 8tb ssds that are too expensive for most people.

500-1tb pricing not too bad. 2tb is somewhat ok. beyond that for m2 nvme e.g. 4tb is still premium  price.

for pricing, people either settle for gen3 or gen4 m2 nvme ssds. Gen4 run hotter than gen 3 fyi. And gen5 some reckon the speeds for these aren't really needed, so they drop back down to getting either a gen3 or gen4.

didnt search too hard but i saw this

ACER PREDATOR GM6 NVME M.2 PCIE 4.0 2tb listed for rm600
or alternatively the

ACER Predator GM7000 M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Gen 4x4 SSD with Heatsink (1TB/2TB/4TB/512GB) - 5 Years Warranty for RM669
doesnt seem to be on sale, so during a sale should be able to get it at even better prices.
for a typical pc, get a 2tb gen3 or gen4 m2 nvme ssd (ideally tlc) with a decent TBW.

then for storage get a HDD.

Done
pc game file sizes huge these days. so for boot drive and games i would recommend the 2tb.

for downloads use the cheaper hdd for bulk storage. ssd is for the OS, apps and games for latency and speed benefits for that application. Or if you have high speed broadband and you download a lot then ssd is a must.



in comparison, i saw this 8TB SSD

WESTERN DIGITAL WD BLACK SN850X 8TB NVMe INTERNAL SSD GAMING WITH HEATSINK - WDS800T2XHE

going for Rm 5.4k i DO NOT recommend buying it (unless you are rich then go ahead). too expensive, and it's a gen4 not gen5. not good value.
Dotatech is selling the 2tb version for this WD model for RM 919.00 which is a few hundred more than the Acer Predator GM6
when buying ssd pay attention to

- price
- capacity size (1-2tb though i recommend 2tb)
- gen (normally gen3 or gen4 is good enough. expected to pay more for gen5 but what do you get? nothing that would a big difference to you so why pay more for that)
- Sustained Write Performance and Cache Recovery (you can see how well it fares in sustained writes, whether it throttles or if there is some sort thermal issue during prolonged usage. This observation usually tells you if the ssd is any good or not).
- endurance TBW (this is how long your ssd will last. the bigger the TBW the better)
look for reviews that explain about the ssd u r lookin at, this one is good
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-p...m7-ssd-review/2
i recommend this to get a rough idea of prices

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive
cheapest ssd by brand i saw was this

Silicon Power A60P34 (1TB/2TB) PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD Solid State Drives

RM467.50

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silico...a60-m2-nvme-ssd

I'm not recommending this particular SP drive, because "Slow direct-to-TLC write speed " 

if you look around you may be able to find something that performs better with good tbw @ 2tb for rm500-600 i assume
for gen4 you can get between that and rm500-600. cheaper on sales (best time to buy)
SP i noticed pulled a bait and switch

it's not just SP, some other brands did it too, but the only reason i mentioned siliconpower since that one i know for sure. So even if the reviews say its good, you still need to search whether they pulled a bait and switch at some point, then the reviews becomes irrelevant.
dont bother with sata ssd they are already dated, especially when consider price, you can get a m2 nvme for similar or better. So UNLESS your machine is limited to saya, then dont get sata ssd. Last time for sata ssd i bought crucial MX500. Those were good ssds for that