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post Nov 14 2007, 02:51 AM, updated 19y ago

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Hey.. I would like to ask for my friend who is going to get a electric guitar.. His budget is around RM2.5k.. Prefer Gibson and ESP.. So any models would you guys suggest him.. He plays Sentimental and Metal.. Thanks alot rclxms.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 02:54 AM

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With that price range, I think you won't be able to get a Gibson or a ESP. sweat.gif


You can try getting their second line brands. Epiphone (Gibson) and LTD (ESP)
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Nov 14 2007, 02:54 AM)
With that price range, I think you won't be able to get a Gibson or a ESP. sweat.gif
You can try getting their second line brands. Epiphone (Gibson) and LTD (ESP)
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Epiphone and LTD would be okie icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:29 AM

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Actually it depends on what type of body shape/feel your friend likes. LesPaul, SG, Superstrat etc.
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post Nov 14 2007, 03:32 AM

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drool.gif Let's say every shapes are okie for him.. What he needs to know is hmm.. Which one has better review.. Which one last longer.. And the pickup and bridge thingy.. Oh yea he needs 24.75 frets
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post Nov 14 2007, 05:41 AM

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any guitar around that price range lasts a lifetime if you don't step on it or smash it on the floor. But if you really want 24 frets i think LTD is the way to go. Because i haven't seen and LPs or SGs or any gibsons for the matter with 24 frets. But maybe there are and i just havent seen them. But don't worry, the guitar sifus here will answer your question soon biggrin.gif

And then of course the usual question, what sound is he going for?
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 14 2007, 05:41 AM)
Because i haven't seen and LPs or SGs or any gibsons for the matter with 24 frets. But maybe there are and i just havent seen them.
my Gibson SG-90...24 fret ebony board biggrin.gif
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or how bout tony iommi SG? also 24 fret ebony rclxm9.gif
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but since he said 24.75 frets...i think he meant scale length...
and LTD for RM2.5k? i dont think you'll find any good ones here at that price range.
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:32 AM

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For 2.5K Consider used unit. Consider Ibanezes?
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post Nov 14 2007, 08:04 AM

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I think he meant 24.75 scale, not fret..... tongue.gif

And your friend, what music does he play? Why Epis or LTDs?

Oh wait..... he did say Sentimental and Metal doh.gif

I would go for an Epi LP, and then swap in EMGs.

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post Nov 14 2007, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 14 2007, 08:04 AM)
I think he meant 24.75 scale, not fret..... tongue.gif

And your friend, what music does he play? Why Epis or LTDs?
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because of humbuckers...well I guess rclxms.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 08:27 AM

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Well, did some research, most of the 24.75 scale guitars from LTD are either the Eclipse series (Cutaway like the Les Paul) or the Explorer........

And even those are going to cost more then the 2.5k mark.......
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:14 AM

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Thanks dude for the replies.. So here are his 3 choices..
1. Tony Iommi SG (Hope can get it below his budget here)
2. Ltd KH 602
3. Les Paul Black Beauty 3

Or any substitue ? Kindly let me know the model rclxm9.gif And which shop if a good choice to pick a Gibson or an Epiphone ?
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:16 AM

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but uhh...sentimental and metal?
nm, you'll look like a real man when you strum a love song on a iommi SG or LP.
no sissy wussy shit allowed tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:22 AM

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He can afford some lower ends LTD I think. To choose between Epis or LTD are really not that hard. Both of them offer similar shapes. If you're looking for the more traditional look and sound, get the Epis. LTDs generally are more extreme looking, fits well with metal playing.

Which one are better... or last longer.. they're subjective to different users..
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:34 AM

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None on the list dude.....
Rm2500 is just for the average guitar class.

those listed there are already on the premium side.

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post Nov 14 2007, 01:35 PM

 
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yeap. for rm2.5k range LTD's you can get their 250 series or signature 200 series. KH 202 is in that range, KH 602 is waaay off smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:49 PM

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Is the 24.75 scale a must? I'm just wondering why your friend would care about the scale length but not about the body shape (LP vs strat/superstrat etc) or manufacturer (other than it's got to be ESP or Gibson).

And I doubt the ESP KH series, even if it was within your friend's budget, comes with 24.75 scale. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:49 PM

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I guess he needs to confirm with the price first.. Catch ya'll back later.. Thanks
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post Nov 14 2007, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(FreakOnLeash @ Nov 14 2007, 01:49 PM)
I guess he needs to confirm with the price first.. Catch ya'll back later.. Thanks
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Erm. Is there a correlation between the scale length and the price? laugh.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:09 PM

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Just to confirm with you guys.. I mistaken the KH 602.. Should be KH 202 blush.gif And I got the price for them
1. Gibson Tony Iommi - RM2250 Retail
2. LTD KH 202 - RM2899 Retail
3. Epiphone Black Beauty 3 - Dont know yet =[

Cheaper than what you guys expected ? thumbup.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:14 PM

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EPIPHONE not Gibson.
if you can get a real Gibson tony iommi for RM2250, i'll buy from you right now tongue.gif

and the epiphone iommi some places can go cheaper...go look for some sellers in garage sales.
IIRC, RM1780 brand new.

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post Nov 14 2007, 07:22 PM

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Yeah... that's an Epi Iommi.
I'll be right behind Everdying when he buys that RM2250 Gibson Iommi too....
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:32 PM

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LTD shud b ok too smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 07:45 PM

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get la the Epiphone Iommi.
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see, i also got one tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2007, 08:46 PM

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OMG la everydying your breaking my heart =_=
6 SGs......5 of which are Gibsons -______-
how much did you fork out?

If i'm not mistaken you can go on a nego war with the woh fatt people and get around 2k or so for the black beauty? correct me if I'm wrong, but i vaguely remember my friend saying that. He has a black beauty.

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post Nov 14 2007, 08:59 PM

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I might get the Iommi too........ just too tempting to pass on a 24 fret SG!
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Why not getting a Viper instead? I don't see anyone here have it..

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post Nov 14 2007, 09:29 PM

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Oh it's an Epiphone blush.gif Now I see
QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 14 2007, 08:59 PM)
I might get the Iommi too........ just too tempting to pass on a 24 fret SG!
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Why dont we go get it together.. May get more discount icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(liew90kw @ Nov 14 2007, 08:46 PM)
OMG la everydying your breaking my heart =_=
6 SGs......5 of which are Gibsons -______-
how much did you fork out?

If i'm not mistaken you can go on a nego war with the woh fatt people and get around 2k or so for the black beauty? correct me if I'm wrong, but i vaguely remember my friend saying that. He has a black beauty.
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epiphone les paul black beauty...maybe, but gibson les paul black beauty no way it could be that cheap and knowing woh fatt they are selling their gibsons at insane prices
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post Nov 14 2007, 10:30 PM

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I don't even think a black beauty would cost 2k
last i remember a black custom cost 3.2k
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i know the black 2 pickup LP Custom is RM2k.
the triple pickup not sure, but definitely more expensive.
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post Nov 14 2007, 11:01 PM

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Check this link for epis.
This guy actually seems to have pretty good deals
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/519513
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QUOTE(liew90kw @ Nov 14 2007, 11:01 PM)
Check this link for epis.
This guy actually seems to have pretty good deals
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/519513
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only MIK models still being made now are signature series.


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QUOTE(liew90kw @ Nov 14 2007, 08:46 PM)
OMG la everydying your breaking my heart =_=
6 SGs......5 of which are Gibsons -______-
how much did you fork out?
actually only 4 gibsons...one of them is a 'orville by gibson'...so technically its sorta a gibson tongue.gif

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post Nov 15 2007, 01:36 AM

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try ask danlion for epi black beauty .. he got for rm2.2k if not mistaken ..
black beauty okay wat ? now wing meng from lovemebutch band used that guitar ..not bad at all
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QUOTE(aceejay @ Nov 15 2007, 01:36 AM)
try ask danlion for epi black beauty .. he got for rm2.2k if not mistaken ..
black beauty okay wat ? now wing meng from lovemebutch band used that guitar ..not bad at all
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I watched them played at Zouk last Sunday. They are AWESOME..
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louderthanlove ? lol i was there too ..
and yes ! they are AWESOME thumbup.gif

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biggrin.gif Yeah I went there to watch them actually. Waited so long for their slot .. and was freaking tired at the time Seven Collar played so I took off early. So are you one of the photographers there?

Anyway, Epi Tommy Iommi's pretty sweet guitar. I would like to get my hands on one. biggrin.gif
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Before Wing Meng use Gibson he was using a Ibanez guitar right ?What is the series ?How much it cost ?
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post Nov 15 2007, 03:10 AM

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aikkk I'm so outdated....now woh fatt is selling gibsons? since when?
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Um....... Since the beginning of time?
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post Nov 15 2007, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 15 2007, 06:21 AM)
Um....... Since the beginning of time?
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I mean seriously, the last time I was there was 1 year ago and they only sold epiphones and SXs and some other cheapo stuff. DIdn't see any gibsons. They hid it inside their store?
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Woh Fatt has been the official distributor for Gibson for donkey years...... heck, they even have a picture of a Les Paul for their logo......

Nowadays, they just display their "cheap" wares and hide the Gibsons as they are no longer the distributor for Gibson/Epiphone.
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post Nov 15 2007, 07:03 AM

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so do they sell any Gibson LP? Who's the official distributor for gibson ?
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A Gibson Les Paul Standard is generally in the range of Rm8k+++
(Musician's Friend lists the cheapest with the 60s neck at around USD 2k before taxes).

And as far as I know, no shops in KL currently stocks Gibsons. Beat Spot had a gibson Les Paul Supreme (which did NOT meet my expectations), but it was sold off.
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oi wtf? you all so short cannot see up the glass cabinets or wat?
woh fatt has at least 10 gibsons in stock in the glass cabinets above the amps, and a few more in the same row as the strings/picks etc but further down.


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Before Wing Meng use Gibson he was using a Ibanez guitar right ?What is the series ?How much it cost ?
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i think he has a few ibanez.
i sold him one of mine about 5-6yrs ago...RG470 in silver with mirror pickguard.

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Well, I haven't been to Woh Fatt since the stupid Pickup installation, so I wouldn't know.
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woh fatt...the glass cabinet on top of the amps has always had gibsons since the beginning of time tongue.gif
mostly the mid-high end LPs and SGs are up there.
at the back is where they put the cheaper gibsons...specials / studios etc.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 15 2007, 09:13 AM)
woh fatt...the glass cabinet on top of the amps has always had gibsons since the beginning of time tongue.gif
mostly the mid-high end LPs and SGs are up there.
at the back is where they put the cheaper gibsons...specials / studios etc.
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oh...I never bother to look up. Their price range for Gibson LP is like what blacktrix said? RM8k rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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yea...second hand...can get LP standards for RM5k.

i myself dont have a single gibson which i bought new...of all my guitars also i only have one which i got brand new...a SX strat SRV copy tongue.gif

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There's one Gibson hollow body at the back selling for more than RM11k rclxub.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 15 2007, 07:26 AM)
Beat Spot had a gibson Les Paul Supreme (which did NOT meet my expectations), but it was sold off.
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Wow, how much was that thing? The owner must be damn rich..
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Selling 13k if I remembered correctly. I could most certainly be wrong.
There was alot of whisky and beer along the way.....
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woh fatt has their gibsons in those glass cabinets

and blacktrix, the one at beatspot was a fake remember?
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yeah...... but have my doubts......
It still sounds like balls.
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i wish to have gib lp someday..
or anybody here want to sell 2nd hand gibby??
hehehe..
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Yeah, here we go with another year old thread being brought back up. doh.gif
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Yup. No more reason for this thread anymore.

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