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post Jul 31 2025, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jul 31 2025, 09:05 PM)
CCP killed mostly own people, with the aim of modernization.

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No lah.

1959-1961 Great Leap Forward = Mao's failed communist economic policies indirectly killed millions through starvation = Mao lost power = became a political figurehead.

1966-76 Cultural Revolution = Mao's power grab by stirring the gullible masses into a Revolution against his political opponents like President Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping resulted in millions of "counter-revolutionaries" like professors and teachers being killed or committed suicide, eg by the Red Guards. .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Guards
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Japan killed mostly outsiders, with the aim of robbing and enslaving.
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At that time, colonialism was widely practised by powerful nations to exploit weak nations's natural resources, eg spices ,tea, silk, tin, rubber, gold, silver, etc.. Japanese colonialists were only more ruthless than Western colonialists, esp since Kuomintang China resisted or fought back. The Malays in Malaya did not resist the Japanese during WW2 = the Malays were mostly left unscathed or unharmed.
....... WW2 was a war between the greedy colonialists = God's judgment or curse.
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post Jul 31 2025, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jul 31 2025, 09:11 PM)
The Jews tracked and punished a 97 year old lady, who was a Nazi secretary, cos wanted to make an example of someone weak. Kinda like how they bomb women and kids from the sky in Gaza now, but always get blown up when going mano-a-mano against real men in sandals.

Real Nazis, those that mattered, all got high ranking jobs in Nato and America.

Wernher Von Braun, director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Centre.
Walter Hallstein, former president of EU commission.
Kurt Waldheim, former secretary General of the UN.

Adolf Heusinger architecht behind the invasions of France Poland Norway and Denmark was made Chairman of the NATO military Committee from 1961-1964.

General Hans Speidel Erin Rommels, chief of staff during the Second World War, served in the West German army and became supreme commander of NATOs ground forces in Central Europe from 1957-1963.

Johanness Steinhoff luftwaffe pilot during the Second World War  and would later become a recipient of the Knights Cross of the Iron later became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee 1971-1974.

Johann Von Kielmansegg, General Staff officer, to the high command of the werhmacht 1942-44 later became NATOs commander in chief of allied forces Central Europe 1967-68.

Ernst Ferber was a major in the Werhmacht and group leader of the organizational department of the Supreme command of the army from 1943-45 and was a recipient of the Iron Cross.
He would later become NATOs commander in chief of forces Central Europe 1973-75.

Franz Joseph Schulze, chief of the 3rd battery of the Flak Storm regiment 241, was NATOS commander in chief of allied forces Central Europe 1977-79.
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In the Nuremberg trials, ten prominent Nazis were sentenced to death by hanging. These were: Hans Frank, Wilhelm Frick, Alfred Jodl, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Wilhelm Keitel, Joachim von Ribbentrop, Alfred Rosenberg, Fritz Sauckel, Arthur Seyss-Inquart, and Julius Streicher. Hermann Göring was also sentenced to death, but he committed suicide before the execution.
The executions took place on October 16, 1946, in the gymnasium of the Nuremberg courthouse. The bodies were then cremated at Dachau, and the ashes were scattered over a river.


All the Nazi leaders were court-martialled and some were executed. Apa lagi u mau.?

If also execute or jail all the Nazi underlings, ordinary members, followers, supporters, etc, millions of Germans would also be executed or jailed after WW2, eg the Nazi Party had 8.5 million members in 1945. .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
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post Jul 31 2025, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Jul 31 2025, 11:12 PM)
I really can’t fathom  hmm.gif why so many people here on Ktard seem to hate everything China does, while barely batting an eye when it comes to Western countries. For those who keep bashing China—mind sharing what exactly ticks you off? Was it something personal, like your great-great-grandfather being skinned alive by the Chinese or something? Or is it just the usual case of DENGKI— eye red and can’t stand seeing others doing better than you?
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CCP China is communist and communism is rooted in ungodliness/atheism, one-party rule of authoritarianism and evil/immorality or no-ethics.
....... Eg CCP China has been bullying/harassing its nearest neighbors with its 9-Dash Line in the SCS.

Eg the mostly Chinese communist terrorists, led by Chin Peng of the Malayan Communist Party/MCP and supported by CCP China, tried to grab power by creating havoc during the Malayan Emergency 1948-1960 and 1968-1989. If Chin Peng had won power, you would be like living in CCP China, Vietnam, Laos or North Korea, eg .......
- censored by the Great Firewall of China (= easy for the CCP to brainwash the masses/people, eg little pinks and wumaos),
- you need to register online with your Real Name ID (= easy for the CCP Police to arrest you if needed),
- required to register your hukou or residence permit (= you can't move your permanent rural/urban residence as you like),
- all your out-of-town movement monitored by the CCP (= easy for the CCP Police to arrest political dissidents if needed),
- mostly only CCP members can succeed in business or professional jobs or become govt officers bc of guanxi or cronyism,
- you can't join any labor unions (= easy for companies to exploit workers),
- you can't vote out the CCP or MCP,
- etc.
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SUSlurkingaround
post Aug 1 2025, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 1 2025, 06:58 AM)
Read your own AI-generated post, and try comprehension. 10 Nazi leaders = All Nazi leaders ar??

Hitler's Chief of Staff is not a Nazi leader?
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Fyi, ie Adolf Heusinger got a plea deal for cooperating with the US military prosecutors to testify against the real Nazi leaders above in the Nuremberg Trials..
....... Also, he had already paid for his "war crime" with 2 years' jail. Apa lagi u mau.? .......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
.... Heusinger made available all information that he had on the conspirators who had plotted against the Führer. He reaffirmed that he had not participated in the assassination plot since he still felt an obligation to fulfil his duty as a soldier of the German Reich, despite his personal view that the war had been lost.[4] After his release, he was placed into the Führerreserve, a reserve army of high-ranking German military leaders awaiting assignments, and was not assigned to another position until 25 March 1945, when he was made chief of armed forces mapping department (Chef Wehrmacht-Kartenwesen). He was later taken prisoner by the Western Allies in May 1945.

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An internee from 1945 to 1947, Heusinger testified during the Nuremberg Trials.
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SUSlurkingaround
post Aug 1 2025, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE((pornoman2128 @ Aug 1 2025, 06:58 AM)
Read your own AI-generated post, and try comprehension. 10 Nazi leaders = All Nazi leaders ar??

Hitler's Chief of Staff is not a Nazi leader?
user posted image

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 1 2025, 03:10 PM)
Oh, no now change story de hor....at 1st say "punished all Nazi leaders".....now its "punished all Nazi leaders that didn't make a deal with America".
So I guess if  wanna commit genocide, better hope and pray that you have military technology, human experimentation or anti-communist knowledge to trade for your life. Luckily Americans are so morally flexible post WW2.
Poor secretary, who's job was only to bring coffee and pass documents to the Nazi leader to rubber stamp....

You can bet if these Nazi bastards and the secretary surrender to the "evil Russians" instead, the secretary would be let go and the real decision-makers would be liquidated....valuable knowledge or not.
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Without Adolf Heusinger's testimony for the prosecution in the Nuremberg Trials, do you think the top Nazi leaders would have been convicted, with 10 of them sentenced to death.? Eg .......
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-defendant-c...ry?id=103610288 - One of former President Donald Trump's co-defendants charged in the Georgia election interference case is taking a plea deal in which he will agree to testify against others in the case.
- 30 Sep 2023


Was Adolf Heusinger Hitler's Chief of Staff when he was arrested by the US military in May 1945.? If not, why.?
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post Aug 1 2025, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Aug 1 2025, 04:14 PM)
Bro, they are Nazi top leaders and prisoner killers, they experimented and killed civilians, they "committed" genocide on the Jews. Why even let them plea-bargain? Imprison the lot of them.

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You're the one who started the argument with "All the Nazi leaders were court-martialed and some were executed", which is false but you still wanna argue and justify.

Its not even that they weren't all "court-martialed or executed".....its that they are then REWARDED with leadership roles in NATO, NASA, CIA, EU commission.....
Don't be a hypocrite.
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False is you la, eg falsely accusing and posting out-of-context about Adolf Heusinger being Hitler's Chief of Staff (not in May 1945) and not being punished or jailed/interned by the US military.

It's common sense or it goes without saying that Nazi leaders who had agreed to testify for the prosecution against top Nazi leaders in the Nuremberg Trials would be treated leniently by the court judges. doh.gif

Apa lagi u mau.?
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post Aug 2 2025, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Aug 2 2025, 01:04 PM)
Let’s debate a bit about the points you mentioned:
1. Regarding the 9-Dash Line, you said China is harassing and bullying other countries. But should we also consider whether “might makes right” applies here? Some people argue that in a “winner-takes-all” world, the strongest often assert their claims—just as others have done throughout history.
2. When comparing China with other communist countries, it’s fair to say that China has done relatively well. Economically and socially, they are far more successful and stable than most other communist regimes.
3. On censorship, take a look at what’s happening in our own country. The government is also increasingly moving toward censorship—targeting critics and suppressing dissent. Doesn’t this suggest that even our government is starting to follow in China’s footsteps?
4. About real-name registration and movement tracking: While the media often portrays China as overly restrictive, people there can still move around freely. In fact, monitoring systems can help deter crime. In Malaysia, many criminals with long histories of offenses are still free to roam. So maybe some form of monitoring could help reduce this.
5. On politics and democracy: Is democracy really working here? It seems to mostly benefit elites, many of whom do more harm than good. To this day, not a single major figure involved in corruption has been properly punished. Is this the “freedom” we want? Those who fear strong government control are often the ones who want to commit crimes. Ordinary, law-abiding citizens generally prefer a safe and stable environment—just look at Singapore as an example.
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Since you prefer communist CCP China as better economically, socially, in censorship, safety, less-corruption, etc , you should move there or to North Korea or Vietnam or Laos.
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