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 How to get back old & expired passport? (Resolved), To apply RMMJ

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TScheekian
post Jul 24 2025, 02:41 PM, updated 3 months ago

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Due to stupid policy of apply RMMJ (Rumah Mampu Milik Johor), applier like me as single and not born from Johor they stated need proof of stay at Johor more than 10 years.

They stated the only document that accept for proof of stay at Johor more than 10 years:
- Sijil Berhenti Sekolah Anak
- Surat Pengesahan Sekolah Anak
- Passport melebihi 10 tahun di Negeri Johor


Other than that, no accepted even your own Sijil Berhenti Sekolah from Johor, only ANAK sahaja.
So if you are single, the only document accepted is Passport, only than that not allowed.
Previously I applied it and submitted my own Sijil Berhenti Sekolah from Johor, they was accepted and proceed for undian terbuka.

Now I only have a passport keluarkan dari Johor that made in 2023, it is not even enough 10 years, I applied a project on 3 June 2025, by submitted the only one passport and my own Sijil Berhenti Sekolah, just now (24 July 2025) they updated status 'BUKTI MENETAP TIDAK MENCUKUPI 10 TAHUN DI NEGERI JOHOR'.

I had my own passport on my childhood (at around 2006 or something) but the passport is already missing and not even possible to bring back.

Is it have anyway to get back old & expired passport (even softcopy also will do)?

P/S: I don't understand why they not accepted our own Sijil Berhenti Sekolah from Johor, since we go to school everyday and we stay Johor everyday. Rather than having passport from Johor but and rent a room from Singapore, funny enough. doh.gif

This post has been edited by cheekian: Sep 5 2025, 05:12 PM
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post Jul 24 2025, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jul 24 2025, 03:50 PM)
Why having a passport means u staying at Johor? Apa logic?
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And even you have children, you need the children that more than 10 years old doh.gif

They write this item: Ini bagi memberi keutamaan buat pemohon kelahiran Johor. πŸ™πŸ»πŸ™πŸ»

Why don't want just put: hanya kelahiran Johor sahaja boleh mohon.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 24 2025, 03:58 PM)
Your IC address is?
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My IC address is JB, but they don't see the IC address though, only the above 3 stated document accepted for proof of stay at Johor more than 10 years. doh.gif
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Jul 24 2025, 04:01 PM)
i think i have johor passport, brb go apply RMMJ
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Go ahead if want buy first house, now you have great chance to apply, need a Johor passport that more than 10 years will do. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 24 2025, 04:05 PM)
You voted in Johor right?
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Of course voted in Johor, but they don't even see the SPR website.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Jul 24 2025, 04:07 PM)
u mean passport Pejabat Pengeluar must from johor or they have a special bangsa johor passport
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Passport Pejabat Pengeluar from Johor will do.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 24 2025, 04:10 PM)
If you just move and have children more than 10 year old, then okay?  laugh.gif
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From their logic, yes it is ok.

Person not born from Johor and get married and having more than 10 years old child and stay at Johor, just need Sijil Berhenti Sekolah Anak & Surat Pengesahan Sekolah Anak, Even Child IC also will do if not mistaken.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 24 2025, 04:09 PM)
Print out SPR page and then tell them you are denied as citizen even with proof. Passport proof does not mean anything. There is something fishy going on somewhere.
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No use one, they said many many times, only 3 stated document accepted, other than that, sorry, cannot apply RMMJ at the moment. They don't know what is mean by budi bicara, and fixed the running policy and no excuses.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Jul 24 2025, 04:17 PM)
passport made by Johor branches of immigration?
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Yes, correct. Passport dikeluarkan dari Pejabat Johor.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jul 24 2025, 04:15 PM)
Have you check with Jabatan Imigresen?
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Good question, not yet, does they don't feel that my request is so weird though hmm.gif
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 24 2025, 04:18 PM)
They are stupid. For me just make a rule that those who bought the house cannot sell it within 10 years without approval from state govt. When people buy the house, sure they want to stay long already.
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They made this rule. But since many people want apply RMMJ, they restricted rule again, why so afraid people are selling out RMMJ.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Jul 24 2025, 04:33 PM)
macam yes, tapi bukan. Fail at sijil kelahiran ukekeke
https://pkpj.johor.gov.my/dokumen/syaratPer...749115?sub=RMMJ
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Sijil kelahiran is not a problem, as long as you have it, every Malaysian can apply, just need proof of stay Johor more than 10 years then ok already.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jul 24 2025, 04:35 PM)
So i can go johor apply passport with 5 years (or 10 got?) then can liao?
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No, they want at least 10 years old passport that dikeluarkan dari Johor.
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post Jul 24 2025, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 24 2025, 04:29 PM)
Unfortunately for you the requirements were published long ago (a simple google search shows infographics from February listing all the conditions). Making an exception for you is just asking for more work, especially when there could be potentially hundreds if not thousands of people who are just as qualified and actually have the documents in hand. It's just basic filtering process, others who are more meticulous would be prioritized.

What you could do is put an inquiry with the state's Jabatan Imigresen and see if they had data from expired passports in their system.
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Thanks for a good suggestion. Will they don't entertain my request to retrieve the old data from their and get scold with them as waste their time to process?
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post Jul 24 2025, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sukhoi35mkm @ Jul 24 2025, 08:36 PM)
i tot immigration will give back the expred passport after they cut it when they handover the new passport...
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Yes, but I lost it already. Just need a way to recover back in softcopy.
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post Jul 25 2025, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jul 24 2025, 04:29 PM)
Unfortunately for you the requirements were published long ago (a simple google search shows infographics from February listing all the conditions). Making an exception for you is just asking for more work, especially when there could be potentially hundreds if not thousands of people who are just as qualified and actually have the documents in hand. It's just basic filtering process, others who are more meticulous would be prioritized.

What you could do is put an inquiry with the state's Jabatan Imigresen and see if they had data from expired passports in their system.
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I had get consult through Imigresen through call, they say that they not able to provide service for retrieve back the old & expired passport. They said the passport pengeluar from Johor more than 10 years is not reasonable, exactly same opinion as I mention on first post, she said why don't find adun/penghulu kampung to prove that I stay at Johor more than 10 years. But the PKPJ is not understandable and stick to exact document that provided, she said can just complain to PKPJ about this issue. Now they have JPEX on 25 July 2025 to 27 July 2025, go ahead to complain then.
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post Jul 25 2025, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Jul 25 2025, 05:22 PM)
You don’t keep a pdf copy of your passport? I always have one in case I lost my passport/ IC etc

I still have a copy of my 8 digit IC with both thumb print left right of your photo, which starts A12345678
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I admit it is my mistake, but it is not cerdik that only can use passport as a proof of stay Johor more than 10 years. Does they so afraid that non-johorean are utilise the RMMJ and let it as an investment tool when buy a house. Though that Johorean also do the same. How about people not born from Johor, stay Johor more than 10 years but don't have any passport either.

This post has been edited by cheekian: Jul 25 2025, 04:35 PM
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post Jul 25 2025, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 25 2025, 05:08 PM)
if the person never applied for passport before? no need to apply for RMMJ?

tag MB on this matter
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I even have MB's assistant phone number too, let me complain at JPEX later. If still talking the same, find ADUN or MB is the best way.
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post Jul 25 2025, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Jul 25 2025, 06:48 PM)
Huh? I have all my old expired passports. They always return to you.
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Old expired passport throw away, just made a big mistake for me. Even throw away, should keep it as soft copy.
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post Jul 25 2025, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Randomization @ Jul 25 2025, 07:29 PM)
Go ask MB is it if no anak, too poor to go outside MY (no passport), no need apply the house.

KEK
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I believe these are the people who get tercicir, maybe they don't know and not voice out and complaining why application is get rejected, lastly go PKPJ then they know what is happening. Passport have to pay and if no overseas then waste.

But hopefully this criteria of stay Johor more than 10 years to be more relaxed, I believe throughout JPEX in these 3 days will get quite many this kind of unreliable criteria just like me.

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