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TSBananahead
post Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM, updated 4 months ago

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Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:03 PM

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How many kids u have already?
Since pregnant already - keep it. Later during birth - if through C-Section surgery ask them to 'ikat' the 'peranakan'. (Bilateral tubal ligation)
ie: tutup kilang. (no more preggy)

then after this you piap wifuuuu can panzhuut-zhut-zhut all you want inside - also no problem.

if birth via normal vaginal delivery - then immediately before discharge - ask for appointment for to 'ikat'. Your wifuu will have to come again some other day to do the procedure.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 24 2025, 01:03 PM)
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How many kids u have already?
Since pregnant already - keep it. Later during birth - if through C-Section surgery ask them to 'ikat' the 'peranakan'. (Bilateral tubal ligation)
ie: tutup kilang. (no more preggy)

then after this you piap wifuuuu can panzhuut-zhut-zhut all you want inside - also no problem.

if birth via normal vaginal delivery - then immediately before discharge - ask for appointment for to 'ikat'. Your wifuu will have to come again some other day to do the procedure.
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Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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pity your one child. Get another one lah.
At lease if got two - they can say they have sibling.

4 ppl in a famili ok what. travel also ngam2.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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then y not you cut the tube ?
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 24 2025, 01:07 PM)
pity your one child. Get another one lah.
At lease if got two - they can say they have sibling.

4 ppl in a famili ok what. travel also ngam2.
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We've gotten lot of those kinda comments from friends and relatives.
But with limited financial resources, the situation is gonna be worse with more children.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:12 PM

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Go ahead with the pregnancy. Do not abort no matter what. You won't regret it down the road and might thank yourself in keeping the pregnancy years later in hindsight.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM

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Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.

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post Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jul 24 2025, 01:08 PM)
then y not you cut the tube ?
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I'm scared of surgery. Yea, might sound selfish, I know.
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.
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Whoa, such perserverance, I would have given up by 40. Hope everything is fine bro, and all the best!
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(xeNOS @ Jul 24 2025, 01:12 PM)
Go ahead with the pregnancy. Do not abort no matter what. You won't regret it down the road and might thank yourself in keeping the pregnancy years later in hindsight.
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To be honest, it did cross our mind, and infact it still is. But due to the fact that it's not so accessible here, we are a bit lost now on what the best next course action is.

Frankly, after seeing all the charsiu children nowadays, wouldn't be so sure that I'll thank myself in the future though. But thanks for the encouragement!
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:18 PM)
Whoa, such perserverance, I would have given up by 40. Hope everything is fine bro, and all the best!
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Actually, we thought, after 40 sure no "Goal!" and was planning to go visit Korea or Japan. Well, that's flocked...

The kid's now 14 months old and I'm on 3 double expressos a day, weekend's included. Did I mention my weekends lazing about in bed are flocked too...

By the way what's your age, and where are you based?

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Not giving advice but if you going to the path of abortion, don't belittle it the impact of it to you and your wife - mentally, emotionally and physically. Do read up more on that and bring it up to discussion with your wife
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
I'm scared of surgery. Yea, might sound selfish, I know.
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go for full anesthetics then
sleep through the process
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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Actually..yes. Why not you go and ikat?
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:33 PM

 
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What does your wife think?
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post Jul 24 2025, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jul 24 2025, 01:33 PM)
What does your wife think?
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She prefers to go ahead with the kid. But ultimately, she said she'll go with my decision, as she is fully aware of our financial situation now.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:39 PM)
She prefers to go ahead with the kid. But ultimately, she said she'll go with my decision, as she is fully aware of our financial situation now.
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then end of story. respect her wishes.
money can always find
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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if dun wan ikat, then another way is to put IMPLANON under her skin.
This one lasts about 3 years no preggy
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened.
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don't believe when a woman says she just before or finish period, the duration may not be 5-7 days consistently, and then if your sperm hasn't died in her canal, it has chance to meet the egg
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keep the child, money will work itself out
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I also do think that respect your wife wish, money can find, life does not come so easily. Although, I also only having 1 and struggling, but if I ever hit the jackpot, I don't think I will give up the little one.

I also agree that the abortion will cause mental health to the wife and bad for her body too. But that is my opinion here. Please do think wisely.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:11 PM)
We've gotten lot of those kinda comments from friends and relatives.
But with limited financial resources, the situation is gonna be worse with more children.
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Get two la aiyo. Single child not going to grow up normal social wise. Seen way too many single child joining university or first job (the first time they leave the nest), their communication skill and thinking really is naive as fuck.

Love and financial support from parents alone is not enough to prepare them for this harsh world. They need to learn to socialize and handle relationship issues, best way to prepare them is having them socialize among siblings as they grow up. They learn while having the parents beside to guide them.

Also worst is when u grow old the kid will be alone dealing with your hospitalization and funeral. What a nightmare. Since 2020 i been dealing with MIL cancer, FIL dementia, my own mom also got medical condition need to see specialist every 2 weeks and my dad already heart attack once. All this in just 5 years. I cannot imagine handling all this as single child and still work full time, literally impossible.
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not a parent myself

but on and off help take care nieces and nephew.

2nd child is apparently not as costly as first one, so no need to ikat perut.

for now yes, ikat first, take care of your wife's mental health. while also think of ways to improve financial standing.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:39 PM)
She prefers to go ahead with the kid. But ultimately, she said she'll go with my decision, as she is fully aware of our financial situation now.
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Keep the kid, use it as motivation to go earn more.

Having a sibling for your current child is also good. I love seeing my kids play together. My 3rd kid is turning 3 this oct. The trouble is worth it.
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Don't go for abortion, it'll haunt you for life, and i heard the karma is really really bad too

Income + expenses still can play around, work part time like e-hailing and be frugal. There is cheap and expensive way to raise a child
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:01 PM

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dah kena then just bite the bullet and move on

my wife also otw to deliver 2nd kid ..but we are planned..then after that tutup kilang



please pakai helmet or just go ikat

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:22 PM)
To be honest, it did cross our mind, and infact it still is. But due to the fact that it's not so accessible here, we are a bit lost now on what the best next course action is.

Frankly, after seeing all the charsiu children nowadays, wouldn't be so sure that I'll thank myself in the future though. But thanks for the encouragement!
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Not recommending it but abortion is possible and quite accessible at least in the Klang Valley, Penang and JB. Talk to some gynaes at specialist clinics, some don't do it at all and some specialise on abortions. As someone mentioned above, there are emotional and physical consequences so make sure to discuss this openly with your wife multiple times before proceeding with this option.

Since you only have 1 kid, I would suggest that you proceed with having the kid as it will be good for your first kid to have a sibling and to both parents as well to have a second child. People overthink about the financial aspects of having kids. What kids actually need are quite basic but some parents tend to think too much about trying to give the "best" but their best is always about money instead of spending time with their kids and being there for them.
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post Jul 24 2025, 03:23 PM

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You should keep the child, and count your blessings.
My wife had miscarriage for 2nd child, later we almost got twins but she’s one of the rare cases where both twin share the same sack and they didn’t make it.
Hopefully all goes well with the pregnancy
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I have 3 years old daughter and 2 years old boy, incoming 3rd one.

My wife never ready for any kid, but then always unexpected preggy since we are too active.

Financially, a bit tough because I stopped working quite sometime, while she’s working remotely.

So far haven’t touch saving, still can cover, but, thing will get better when you believe it will.


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only 1 child, is good to have another. unplanned by you but probably planned by divine power.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
I'm scared of surgery. Yea, might sound selfish, I know.
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Vasectomy is a relatively minor procedure, done under LA.

Not sure if you’re more scared of this minor procedure or a lifetime of horror via an unplanned pregnancy.

FAFO.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
I'm scared of surgery. Yea, might sound selfish, I know.
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It's daycare procedure for guys if I am not wrong.
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If me, I will suggest abortion since u said u are not well-off / not willing to sacrifice your time / money

Better to make decision fast before u regret later.. Can abort before certain period of time

Best is ask your wife to decide as she's the one carrying the baby

Just wondering, u use protection also she can get pregnant ? Hope u are the true father and not someone else.. Seen so many stories in FB where the parents are white but the kid comes out black

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Jul 24 2025, 02:30 PM)
Get two la aiyo. Single child not going to grow up normal social wise. Seen way too many single child joining university or first job (the first time they leave the nest), their communication skill and thinking really is naive as fuck.

Love and financial support from parents alone is not enough to prepare them for this harsh world. They need to learn to socialize and handle relationship issues, best way to prepare them is having them socialize among siblings as they grow up. They learn while having the parents beside to guide them.

Also worst is when u grow old the kid will be alone dealing with your hospitalization and funeral. What a nightmare. Since 2020 i been dealing with MIL cancer, FIL dementia, my own mom also got medical condition need to see specialist every 2 weeks and my dad already heart attack once. All this in just 5 years. I cannot imagine handling all this as single child and still work full time, literally impossible.
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Well, there's always pros and cons and nothing is for certain. Plenty of charsiu kids pushing responsibilities to each other as well. But do agree with you on the part where having sibling is better for the kid, I myself have 2 siblings.
Anyway, sorry about your family's situation.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Jul 24 2025, 03:01 PM)
dah kena then just bite the bullet and move on

my wife also otw to deliver 2nd kid ..but we are planned..then after that tutup kilang
please pakai helmet or just go ikat
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Wait, wasn't your first kid just born not long ago? That was fast.
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Financial situation means it's a workable problem. Start exploring, upskilling and market your skills to get additional income. All the best TS.
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If is Unplanned then plan for it right now.
May be your mentality is not ready yet but there is plenty of time for it
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QUOTE(-PuPu^ZaPruD3r- @ Jul 24 2025, 03:49 PM)
If me, I will suggest abortion since u said u are not well-off / not willing to sacrifice your time / money

Better to make decision fast before u regret later.. Can abort before certain period of time

Best is ask your wife to decide as she's the one carrying the baby

Just wondering, u use protection also she can get pregnant ? Hope u are the true father and not someone else.. Seen so many stories in FB where the parents are white but the kid comes out black
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You're the first one here so far supporting the idea of abortion. Yea, will have one last proper talk with her before deciding.
Nope I didn't use protection, all my life I've only used protection for 3 times out of 400+ times (lost count), that's why I was so sure of my pull out game, well this time things didn't work out.
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Thanks everyone, for all the positivity and encouragements.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 03:57 PM)
Wait, wasn't your first kid just born not long ago? That was fast.
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my kid now 1.5

then 2nd kid end of year

age gap ngam ngam 2 y.o
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Still easy to go anywhere..
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Your financial issue could be temporarily or long term. Who knows what might happen. It might worsen or better after the baby. If worsen, you or your wife might resent the baby. No one knows for sure. If you both decided to abort, you could still have another planned child in the future.

This is deeply personal and no one will understand what you and your wife is going through right now. What works for others might not work for you. Have a deep discussion with your wife. Hope all goes well.

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 04:02 PM)
You're the first one here so far supporting the idea of abortion. Yea, will have one last proper talk with her before deciding.
Nope I didn't use protection, all my life I've only used protection for 3 times out of 400+ times (lost count), that's why I was so sure of my pull out game, well this time things didn't work out.
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Just giving my thoughts from religion (Taoism/Buddhism) perspective which might not be applicable to you.
Perhaps you should also consider the views of your parents and in-laws on this matter.
Its unplanned - yes but now both of you have created a life.

From Google search
Individual Circumstances:
The karmic repercussions of abortion are believed to vary based on individual circumstances, intentions, and spiritual development.

Potential for Regret and Guilt:
Even with a Taoist perspective, some may experience regret or guilt after an abortion, especially if it was not a last resort or if there was a lack of understanding of the situation.



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Bub, keep the baby

Don't overthink the unknown. Things will get better for you and the family because this baby will be your lucky charm

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 04:05 PM)
Thanks everyone, for all the positivity and encouragements.
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IKR!!! One of the most positive threads we've read - and beverlykho's reply is the one that made my day. Wishing you both all the best notworthy.gif

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I'll just drop a little PSA here - for all the parents, experienced and new, first-timers and seasoned papa mamas - set the CHILD REMINDER on your WAZE app.
How?
Open Waze -> Settings > Reminders > Child Reminder.

What it does?
It reminds you TO CHECK YOUR CAR UPON ARRIVAL each time you reached your destination - double check your car seats BEFORE YOU depart your car. thumbsup.gif
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Look at b40
Low salary , 3 to 7 kids
And yet they still make it

U will find your way to settle it if u decided to keep the child

Advice here , don’t gamble heavily , don’t invest in quick money scheme
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Congratulations!
You should be happy and don't worry too much.
Things will work out fine.
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You must be in dire situation if you can't even afford milk formula and just basic kindergarten
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How dire is your current finance? How old?
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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Jul 24 2025, 03:41 PM)
Vasectomy is a relatively minor procedure, done under LA.

Not sure if you’re more scared of this minor procedure or a lifetime of horror via an unplanned pregnancy.

FAFO.
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Thread kinda answers that tbh
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QUOTE(Inc. 100 @ Jul 24 2025, 05:25 PM)
You must be in dire situation if you can't even afford milk formula and just basic kindergarten
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It's more than that. Diapers, one off items like baby bottles are some things that come to mind, but major cost will still be daycare. Good thing though is I get to save on other things like crib, playpen passed down from my older child.

QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jul 24 2025, 05:37 PM)
How dire is your current finance? How old?
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Not to the point of starving, but for sure need to sacrifice on leisure stuffs, vacation and maybe even cuti2 Malaysia also can no longer afford. Early 30s
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 05:51 PM)
It's more than that. Diapers, one off items like baby bottles are some things that come to mind, but major cost will still be daycare. Good thing though is I get to save on other things like crib, playpen passed down from my older child.
Not to the point of starving, but for sure need to sacrifice on leisure stuffs, vacation and maybe even cuti2 Malaysia also can no longer afford. Early 30s
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day care, food, school, tertiary education.. overall.. 20yrs of commitment, total cost1M++.. then again, decision is yours to be made. on the flip side, who doesnt has any commitment in life? that also a driving force to do more..
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 24 2025, 01:07 PM)
pity your one child. Get another one lah.
At lease if got two - they can say they have sibling.

4 ppl in a famili ok what. travel also ngam2.
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Bringing any child in this world definitely requires long term commitment just like a marriage. You are still young and not in a dire situation; you all just have to change a bit of your lifestyles eg not eating out or taking holidays. We have been through your situations before and can only say at the end, it’s worthwhile!!. We were also young and have three kids, sacrificing holidays and cooking at home. Brought kids out to the playgrounds, picnics, playing kites and learning how to ride a bike. No extra money for piano, ballet or even tuitions but spent many hours in the MBBJ library and watching movies at home. Kids all turned up fine, great careers and families of their own. Now we spend our time travelling to visit them or travelling on our own because we are commitment free. Come back in another 20+ years and share with our fellow netizens how things turned out for you. Hopefully more will be inspired from your sharing. Wishing you and family unending blessings and happiness
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 04:02 PM)
You're the first one here so far supporting the idea of abortion. Yea, will have one last proper talk with her before deciding.
Nope I didn't use protection, all my life I've only used protection for 3 times out of 400+ times (lost count), that's why I was so sure of my pull out game, well this time things didn't work out.
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unethical to abort already once pass 2nd or 3rd month cause the baby head already there. One of my fwbs said she can take some pill to let it drop out (abortion) I don't know what's the pill called
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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First of all, Congratulations dude thumbsup.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif

dont worry.. everything will be okay.. you'll manage.. child is a bless. flex.gif
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Child is not a financial burden.

Child is a blessing.

Stay strong brotha

If you need any help in the future, work wise or money, just ask.

We might not be able to help much, but I am sure some of us will help you in ways to ease your burden.

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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TS and his wife talked about having only one child, but in this post, I don't see any real effort to prevent pregnancy. If you and your wife were truly serious about avoiding another pregnancy, situations like this wouldn't happen. Don't tell me you were relying on the rhythm method or the pull-out method—both of which have been shown to be highly unreliable.

I would suggest abortion for the well-being of everyone involved. Why bring another child into a world where both of you are unable to provide the best for them? Even worse, the limited resources meant for your first child will now have to be shared with a second. The world is a never-ending rat race and hardships. I see little reasons for bringing another child into it—especially when they cannot consent to being born, and their parents weren’t even planning to have them in the first place.

Those encouraging you not to consider abortion are only feeding into your own selfish desires. Have you truly thought about whether that unborn child would even want to be born under these circumstances?

Don’t be surprised if, one day, you hear things like “I didn’t ask to be born” or “I wasn’t even planned,” especially if their life doesn’t turn out well.

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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Serious advise, u might want to consider vasectomy IF u and ur partner decide no more kids. Discuss with her.
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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Jul 24 2025, 08:57 PM)
TS and his wife talked about having only one child, but in this post, I don't see any real effort to prevent pregnancy. If you and your wife were truly serious about avoiding another pregnancy, situations like this wouldn't happen. Don't tell me you were relying on the rhythm method or the pull-out method—both of which have been shown to be highly unreliable.

I would suggest abortion for the well-being of everyone involved. Why bring another child into a world where both of you are unable to provide the best for them? Even worse, the limited resources meant for your first child will now have to be shared with a second. The world is a never-ending rat race and hardships. I see little reasons for bringing another child into it—especially when they cannot consent to being born, and their parents weren’t even planning to have them in the first place.

Those encouraging you not to consider abortion are only feeding into your own selfish desires. Have you truly thought about whether that unborn child would even want to be born under these circumstances?

Don’t be surprised if, one day, you hear things like “I didn’t ask to be born” or “I wasn’t even planned,” especially if their life doesn’t turn out well.
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Dude u think so easy say want abortion just do it?

Some ppl may regret after that and feel guilty then lead to depression and even self harm.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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I know everyone going to FCUK me!

Base on what you write, my advice is drop now as under 6 weeks is no life n your life partner is safe.

Please do it probably as this is your life partner.
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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Jul 24 2025, 08:57 PM)
TS and his wife talked about having only one child, but in this post, I don't see any real effort to prevent pregnancy. If you and your wife were truly serious about avoiding another pregnancy, situations like this wouldn't happen. Don't tell me you were relying on the rhythm method or the pull-out method—both of which have been shown to be highly unreliable.

I would suggest abortion for the well-being of everyone involved. Why bring another child into a world where both of you are unable to provide the best for them? Even worse, the limited resources meant for your first child will now have to be shared with a second. The world is a never-ending rat race and hardships. I see little reasons for bringing another child into it—especially when they cannot consent to being born, and their parents weren’t even planning to have them in the first place.

Those encouraging you not to consider abortion are only feeding into your own selfish desires. Have you truly thought about whether that unborn child would even want to be born under these circumstances?

Don’t be surprised if, one day, you hear things like “I didn’t ask to be born” or “I wasn’t even planned,” especially if their life doesn’t turn out well.
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:23 PM)
Actually, we thought, after 40 sure no "Goal!" and was planning to go visit Korea or Japan. Well, that's flocked...

The kid's now 14 months old and I'm on 3 double expressos a day, weekend's included. Did I mention my weekends lazing about in bed are flocked too...

By the way what's your age, and where are you based?
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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Jul 24 2025, 08:57 PM)
TS and his wife talked about having only one child, but in this post, I don't see any real effort to prevent pregnancy. If you and your wife were truly serious about avoiding another pregnancy, situations like this wouldn't happen. Don't tell me you were relying on the rhythm method or the pull-out method—both of which have been shown to be highly unreliable.

I would suggest abortion for the well-being of everyone involved. Why bring another child into a world where both of you are unable to provide the best for them? Even worse, the limited resources meant for your first child will now have to be shared with a second. The world is a never-ending rat race and hardships. I see little reasons for bringing another child into it—especially when they cannot consent to being born, and their parents weren’t even planning to have them in the first place.

Those encouraging you not to consider abortion are only feeding into your own selfish desires. Have you truly thought about whether that unborn child would even want to be born under these circumstances?

Don’t be surprised if, one day, you hear things like “I didn’t ask to be born” or “I wasn’t even planned,” especially if their life doesn’t turn out well.
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i agree, that's why abortion should be legalized and make it accessible in public. We don't need to pump out kids they lack their own agency to think independently and do on their own will
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QUOTE(w19 @ Jul 25 2025, 02:14 AM)
I know everyone going to FCUK me!

Base on what you write, my advice is drop now as under 6 weeks is no life n your life partner is safe.

Please do it probably as this is your life partner.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 05:51 PM)
It's more than that. Diapers, one off items like baby bottles are some things that come to mind, but major cost will still be daycare. Good thing though is I get to save on other things like crib, playpen passed down from my older child.
Not to the point of starving, but for sure need to sacrifice on leisure stuffs, vacation and maybe even cuti2 Malaysia also can no longer afford. Early 30s
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A maid with min wage is 1.7k. Bringing the maid in is 15-20k (one time)

Costs related to birth which are non-mandatory: A caesarean in private 10-15k. Confinement 20-30k. Confinement lady is lower 5-10k you provide the ingredients. But since you have not mentioned these I'm assuming these aren't issues (government hosp; in laws/parents)

I understand not wanting a child after a certain number (though I do not understand childless marriages) but even contemplating having to abort a child once it has been conceived because of lifestyle sacrifices (read: not needs)...

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Few things for saving cost at early stage. Go to government hospital for checkup and delivery. Try to get as many second hand items as possible for baby needs. Breast feed to at least 2 years old. Going to save tons on milk powder. Skip all those confiment, is just transitional thing. Of course finally, find better job or get more business. I know how you feel. I have the same plan of having 1 child but fate take its way, my wife was pregnant with twins. 😊 god must be joking. We were struggling financially as well but 13 years later my twins are in internal school. We have more vacations than you can imagine. My twins celebrated their 5th birthday in London. I cannot even believe that. Sometimes fate take its path. Just have to walk the path the best you can.

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Mix respond with some suggest abortion but not others.

One kid is really sad; good to have another one. I see my only one kid cousin growing up alone .. really lonely one so I agree at least 2 min ..
You should count your blessing as new couple usually hard to get pregnant due to PCOS and what not (medical health related matters)

Not to be mean to compare you with "foreigner" .. if they can have UNHCR with few kids to survive .. why can't you since you are local with better priviledge than them ..

Also I think there is a saying "Anak itu rezeki" .. It the end, things will find its way ..
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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Jul 24 2025, 08:57 PM)
TS and his wife talked about having only one child, but in this post, I don't see any real effort to prevent pregnancy. If you and your wife were truly serious about avoiding another pregnancy, situations like this wouldn't happen. Don't tell me you were relying on the rhythm method or the pull-out method—both of which have been shown to be highly unreliable.

I would suggest abortion for the well-being of everyone involved. Why bring another child into a world where both of you are unable to provide the best for them? Even worse, the limited resources meant for your first child will now have to be shared with a second. The world is a never-ending rat race and hardships. I see little reasons for bringing another child into it—especially when they cannot consent to being born, and their parents weren’t even planning to have them in the first place.

Those encouraging you not to consider abortion are only feeding into your own selfish desires. Have you truly thought about whether that unborn child would even want to be born under these circumstances?

Don’t be surprised if, one day, you hear things like “I didn’t ask to be born” or “I wasn’t even planned,” especially if their life doesn’t turn out well.
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The argument you've presented is a breathtakingly cynical and intellectually bankrupt assault on human life, family, and resilience. This is a disgusting and soulless calculation that reduces a human being to a line item on a budget. What is "the best"? A bigger house? More expensive toys? A trust fund? History is filled with brilliant, happy, and successful people who grew up with far less.

Life is filled with hardship, yes, but it is also filled with indescribable joy, beauty, love, and triumph. To deny someone the chance at all of it because you are afraid of the difficult parts is the height of cowardice.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
I'm scared of surgery. Yea, might sound selfish, I know.
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Keep it. Dont abortion. It is killing.
Many people do want kid but cant.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 05:51 PM)
It's more than that. Diapers, one off items like baby bottles are some things that come to mind, but major cost will still be daycare. Good thing though is I get to save on other things like crib, playpen passed down from my older child.
Not to the point of starving, but for sure need to sacrifice on leisure stuffs, vacation and maybe even cuti2 Malaysia also can no longer afford. Early 30s
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first. thank you for replying.

2nd. you need to be reprimanded. coz its not like it might not happen again.
you dah know you poor and cant afford another child, yet still childish and say things like
"Nope I didn't use protection, all my life I've only used protection for 3 times out of 400+ times (lost count), that's why I was so sure of my pull out game, well this time things didn't work out."
well tough luck, tough guy, you outran your luck.
if this aint stupid i dunno what is.
i get it when at times, maybe too excited and didnt use protection once a year or something but to brag about this?

lastly. nasi dah jadi bubur.
everyone will think differently la. so hard to say or advise, even your financial is relative, you say not enough other ppl say enough.
heck i reprimanded you but if i got another accident 3rd kid, i will "struggle" like you too.

though i must say, i dont think i will go to abortion route (think so la. but mana tau).

not sure how old is your kid now but its not all doom and gloom la.
like those food, clothes or even baby stuff expenses could be kept low.

lets not talk about confinement, etc since i dunno you will go center or got parents/in law help. i know i did get help.
heck we even use cloth diapers coz we think its better for the baby, only use diapers at night.
eat more at home, eat more hawker food, limit restaurant outing a bit more.
find more activity locally that kids and your family enjoy.

the biggest expenses would be babysitter and the kindergarden i would say. but after that. the kids will have free study in primary and secondary school, so you got 11 years of each to beef up your saving again.
dial down your oversea vacation, see more your own country. the kids dont have much demand and its a waste of money. want go further wait till they older.
if you say its your wife and your own wish to travel, well tough luck, cookie. you asked for it.

college time well there is cheap version too. like TARUC. by then if you dont mind (not ideal) there is still ptptn and kids can take more responsibility.

unless you itchy like me, kids like english more, thinking cheap private secondary school laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

but ultimately choice is yours la. if abortion, while i dont encourage it, there is way for it.
i think i know a clinic nearby my area that do that in KL.
discuss with your partner, discuss if keep it, this is going to be the way of life until things got better, is she okay to work with you on that.

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was in your situation last year.
already have 3 (f,f,m) and both of us busy working schedule, our bed activity is very limited, due to youngest baby sleep with us. 1 year can count with 1 hand. wife had to take care of kids + work, while i need to work late night.

one fine day, we were both wfh and kids at daycare.. suddenly dunno why got mood, we did it at my working desk, it was sudden, we never use protection cos its so rare and unprepared... i think that was the only sex we had that year..and voila.. came home 1 day wife ask me check the item on my table.. i had a look it's ultrasound of a twin baby...

then wife ask the hard question, keep or abort? it's a twin... hardest decision.. 2 lives there... we dare not face it... for the next few weeks wife go checkup as normal and we kinda avoid talking about it.. until 1 day wife ask me seriously, must make decision already. i said keep it. she presented all the realities and ask me am i ready... i had no choice, i said yes.

so in the few months to come, we started planning, bought a MPV, bought a landed house, a semi-D (just recently moved in2 months ago), hired a maid, etc. both me and my wife, we are T20... but now we can feel the financial struggle la.. maid and the 2 babies we sent to daycare cos worry maid cannot jaga... so 5 kids expenses, food, clothing, daycare, everything.... lifestyle also change... we had to cancel our japan trip this year, last year before wife deliver, 5 of us went to korea and UK trip. this year? next year? most likely stay at home.. because it's hard to travel with 5 kids, with 2 twin babies + 1 boy toddler. the girls are ok.. they are helpful and listen to us. but the boy....

my wife would sometime complain and went berserk and hysteria mode.. due to the stress with the 2 babies, and change of lifestyle, etc. so yeah it's affecting her greatly... myself too... at night cannot sleep, 1 cry the other will cry...

did i regret? no, but it could've been prevented if i didnt take things for granted. i only worry my wife. i'll be travelling to middle east for few weeks, i worry if my wife can handle 5 kids.

but let's look at the positive side.. i will make sure all 5 of them have good education, good family values, and when they are grown up, situation will be better. thinking of the benefits of having large family. for now, have to work hard and sacrifice a bit. another good thing is, wife deliver via C section so we asked doctor to ikat for her... so no more worries about any unwanted pregnancies again in future..

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reading through the thread, its interesting and some sort scary how some view having kids are a burden.
To each their own i would say and don't need to change your mind.
However, I think about how 1 child will live when the parents are gone. How parents will live when the 1 child does not grow up as expected or had short comings.

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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:23 PM)
Actually, we thought, after 40 sure no "Goal!" and was planning to go visit Korea or Japan. Well, that's flocked...

The kid's now 14 months old and I'm on 3 double expressos a day, weekend's included. Did I mention my weekends lazing about in bed are flocked too...

By the way what's your age, and where are you based?
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QUOTE(archief @ Jul 25 2025, 11:26 AM)
was in your situation last year.
already have 3 (f,f,m) and both of us busy working schedule, our bed activity is very limited, due to youngest baby sleep with us. 1 year can count with 1 hand. wife had to take care of kids + work, while i need to work late night.

one fine day, we were both wfh and kids at daycare.. suddenly dunno why got mood, we did it at my working desk, it was sudden, we never use protection cos its so rare and unprepared... i think that was the only sex we had that year..and voila.. came home 1 day wife ask me check the item on my table.. i had a look it's ultrasound of a twin baby...

then wife ask the hard question, keep or abort? it's a twin... hardest decision.. 2 lives there... we dare not face it... for the next few weeks wife go checkup as normal and we kinda avoid talking about it.. until 1 day wife ask me seriously,  must make decision already. i said keep it. she presented all the realities and ask me am i ready... i had no choice, i said yes.

so in the few months to come, we started planning, bought a MPV, bought a landed house, a semi-D (just recently moved in2 months ago), hired a maid, etc. both me and my wife, we are T20... but now we can feel the financial struggle la.. maid and the 2 babies we sent to daycare cos worry maid cannot jaga... so 5 kids expenses, food, clothing, daycare, everything.... lifestyle also change... we had to cancel our japan trip this year, last year before wife deliver, 5 of us went to korea and UK trip. this year? next year? most likely stay at home.. because it's hard to travel with 5 kids, with 2 twin babies + 1 boy toddler. the girls are ok.. they are helpful and listen to us. but the boy....

my wife would sometime complain and went berserk and hysteria mode.. due to the stress with the 2 babies, and change of lifestyle, etc. so yeah it's affecting her greatly... myself too... at night cannot sleep, 1 cry the other will cry...

did i regret? no, but it could've been prevented if i didnt take things for granted. i only worry my wife. i'll be travelling to middle east for few weeks, i worry if my wife can handle 5 kids.

but let's look at the positive side.. i will make sure all 5 of them have good education, good family values, and when they are grown up, situation will be better. thinking of the benefits of having large family. for now, have to work hard and sacrifice a bit. another good thing is, wife deliver via C section so we asked doctor to ikat for her... so no more worries about any unwanted pregnancies again in future..
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TS, child is a blessing.

Got my unplanned youngest with 5 years gap to the earlier one. Always told her is a blessing to replaced my eldest. Play and have fun together daily. Imagine after a tired day and see a cute child, it become refreshed immediately

Actually time with child is short, normally is 17 years. Some is even shorter for 12 years. So make good use of it and count the blessing
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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jul 24 2025, 02:08 PM)
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She prefers to go ahead with the kid. But ultimately, she said she'll go with my decision, as she is fully aware of our financial situation now.
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the answer is there. u dont need random strangers online to give you a reason to keep/not to keep the baby.

your child will be very happy (i hope) to have a playmate. look on the bright side, better now than few years later, that time u getting old, lagi susah.

grats!
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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If you already plan to have one then this is a blessing.

Trust me,.time are bad NOW, but it will change.

Many wanted to have kid, they can even have it.

Plan accordingly and enjoy the journey.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jul 25 2025, 04:24 PM)
If you already plan to have one then this is a blessing.

Trust me,.time are bad NOW, but it will change.

Many wanted to have kid, they can even have it.

Plan accordingly and enjoy the journey.
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Wished my wife can understand the statement above...
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We went through good times and bad times. When we had our second one, that time I got retrenched. Very bad time. We reduce our spending and manage our cost, even downgraded our cars.

And now we asked, why didn't we go for a 3rd one ?
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How many kids u have already?
Since pregnant already - keep it. Later during birth - if through C-Section surgery ask them to 'ikat' the 'peranakan'. (Bilateral tubal ligation)
ie: tutup kilang. (no more preggy)

then after this you piap wifuuuu can panzhuut-zhut-zhut all you want inside - also no problem.

if birth via normal vaginal delivery - then immediately before discharge - ask for appointment for to 'ikat'. Your wifuu will have to come again some other day to do the procedure.
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Yeah me and my wife after our 2nd kid, we agreed for my wife to ikat close shop. At least can shoot inside her no worries bout her getting pregnant all these years

Min should have 2

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i know ktard like to make jokes on muslim view on anak is rezeki, but have faith brother.. more wealth is coming to your family. every life comes with its own set of rezeki. most will deny it but truth is hard to swallow
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jul 25 2025, 04:48 PM)
We went through good times and bad times. When we had our second one, that time I  got retrenched. Very bad time. We reduce our spending and manage our cost, even downgraded our cars.

And now we asked, why didn't we go for a 3rd one ?
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Sorry to hear abt yr retrenchment.. I went through it twice and survived both.. Life aint rosy but luckily I hv been very careful with my expenses all these while. Dont drive fancy car dont wear bling bling and etc …
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IKR!!! One of the most positive threads we've read - and [email=beverlykho]beverlykho[/email]'s reply is the one that made my day. Wishing you both all the best  notworthy.gif

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I'll just drop a little PSA here - for all the parents, experienced and new, first-timers and seasoned papa mamas - set the CHILD REMINDER on your WAZE app.
How?
Open Waze -> Settings > Reminders > Child Reminder.

What it does?
It reminds you TO CHECK YOUR CAR UPON ARRIVAL each time you reached your destination - double check your car seats BEFORE YOU depart your car. thumbsup.gif
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Thank you for the positive reply. Your reply made my day too, Bro. And that's a good tip.
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Congratulations!!! Happy to hear this kinda news
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Watch your blood pressure!
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No help from parents of either side?
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Nope. My parents are in their 70s, and my mother is partially bedridden, while my father just had gastrectomy and now on chemo. And I'm an only child.

My wife's parents no need to ask for their help as their busy focusing effort on their eldest son's children. My wife is the hated daughter so the only help from them is fake lip service.
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Are you really financially struggling or reluctant to change your current lifestyle?

Sometimes we overthink of all this cost. Is raising child about giving them the best going to private school? Best milk powder and etc?
No doubt any parent would want the best, but sometimes financially it's a burden. Just raised your kids the best that you can and you won't regret.

But if u are really financially struggling to put food on table, then your line of thought is correct.

Just don't regret your action. Weight all your options. When wife says up to you - meaning it's on you.

All the best.
Plus - please do family planning moving forward. Don't ikat and don't use condom is asking for trouble.

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 05:51 PM)
It's more than that. Diapers, one off items like baby bottles are some things that come to mind, but major cost will still be daycare. Good thing though is I get to save on other things like crib, playpen passed down from my older child.
Not to the point of starving, but for sure need to sacrifice on leisure stuffs, vacation and maybe even cuti2 Malaysia also can no longer afford. Early 30s
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Eh...you're better off then my wife and I, Bro. You have age, experience from your first child and leftover items from your first child, on your side. The both of you are young and have more strength compared to us over 45s. You still have time. Time for your careers to expand and time to find better careers should theh situation come to it. Also, consider the leftover items a Starter Kit. So, age, experience and Starter Kit. Lucky you, I say.

Let me tell you about my wife and I. Those who are Type TLDR, or have the attention span of Tiks (Tiktokers), may skip this part.

My wife and I started off with literally ZERO. ZERO experience. ZERO Starter Kit. Just our hands and prayers. "Advice and hand-me-downs from relatives?, you ask. ZERO as most are grandparents and forgotten about child rearing, and cousin's kids are already in secondary school or university, so hand-me-downs have been handed down to others a long, long time ago. So, ZERO.

And here we are today, living on a wing and prayer, and by the seat of our pants. Could things be better or easier? Certainly. Do we have a regrets? Most certainly, as we are human. Would we change things if we could do it again? HELL, NO!

So, hang in there, Bro. You're already ahead of the curve. Everything else will fall in place, one way or another.
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Too late  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif . Had hypertension from my shift job years ago. But on the plus side, I find myself calmer nowadays. After having my kid, my perspective about things have changed.
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Nope. My parents are in their 70s, and my mother is partially bedridden, while my father just had gastrectomy and now on chemo. And I'm an only child.

My wife's parents no need to ask for their help as their busy focusing effort on their eldest son's children. My wife is the hated daughter so the only help from them is fake lip service.
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TS please spend some money

Get a vasectomy surgery after this

Who knows one day you might fell in a stressed situation and having depression , don't buat susah your whole family
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.
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whoa great to hear this, congratulations

everything came naturally or done any IVF before?

she's only 12 when you retire means you gonna spend more time with your kid, that's great thumbsup.gif
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If you didn't plan for protection, then the pregnancy was planned.

This is what my dr told us. And its true.
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Just keep the baby.
No need to cut this cut that.
You just wear condom everytime. Easy.

Dont try to persuade her to change her body for your needs. Just changr yourself.
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Just keep the baby.
No need to cut this cut that.
You just wear condom everytime. Easy.

Dont try to persuade her to change her body for your needs. Just changr yourself.
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My wife keep asking if she fat (52kg) with 163cm height, after gave birth 2 kids

She was 44kg when I first met her

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QUOTE(redic @ Jul 29 2025, 01:27 AM)
whoa great to hear this, congratulations

everything came naturally or done any IVF before?

she's only 12 when you retire means you gonna spend more time with your kid, that's great  thumbsup.gif
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Thanks. Pregnancy was au naturale from start to end. When I retire, I hope I have enough money to enjoy time with her. Perhaps, I'll become a house husband. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jul 29 2025, 09:32 AM)
My wife keep asking if she fat (52kg) with 163cm height, after gave birth 2 kids

She was 44kg when I first met her
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That question is a trap. For your peace of mind, just tell her you love her the way she is.

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if u ok go to jabatan kebajikan masyarakat and your new born for adoption. sign sum papers then ok la. there are couples that are not so lucky
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 26 2025, 09:33 AM)
Eh...you're better off then my wife and I, Bro. You have age, experience from your first child and leftover items from your first child, on your side. The both of you are young and have more strength compared to us over 45s. You still have time. Time for your careers to expand and time to find better careers should theh situation come to it. Also, consider the leftover items a Starter Kit. So, age, experience and Starter Kit. Lucky you, I say.

Let me tell you about my wife and I. Those who are Type TLDR, or have the attention span of Tiks (Tiktokers), may skip this part.

My wife and I started off with literally ZERO. ZERO experience. ZERO Starter Kit. Just our hands and prayers. "Advice and hand-me-downs from relatives?, you ask. ZERO as most are grandparents and forgotten about child rearing, and cousin's kids are already in secondary school or university, so hand-me-downs have been handed down to others a long, long time ago. So, ZERO.

And here we are today, living on a wing and prayer, and by the seat of our pants. Could things be better or easier? Certainly. Do we have a regrets? Most certainly, as we are human. Would we change things if we could do it again? HELL, NO!

So, hang in there, Bro. You're already ahead of the curve. Everything else will fall in place, one way or another.
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Update: consulted a gynae at a private hospital on the procedure if say we don't intend to go ahead, and somehow opposed to what some others here have commented, the doctor told us that there's no such thing as taking pills, only possible through surgery here. And have to do it before second trimester.
Currently, still haven't made up our mind yet. Many sacrifices would have to be made including to our first child, some notable changes like no more pre-school with fees of RM1000+ a month, will have to send him to some other sorta Tadika with way lower fees.

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Better let your wife do the final decision as she is the one that will have to live with the guilt as males will usually shrug it off...

Early medical abortion is an option available up to 9 weeks into a pregnancy.

This type of abortion can be performed in the early weeks of pregnancy (up to 9 weeks). Medication abortion uses a combination of 2 medications – mifepristone and misoprostol – to end an unplanned pregnancy. Medication abortion is a low-risk, non-invasive way to terminate (end) a pregnancy.

Step 1 uses a medicine called Mifepristone. Most people will not notice any effect after taking this medicine.

Step 2 uses a medicine called Misoprostol. This is when the abortion occurs. It is important to be in a safe, quiet place and rest as much as you can. Cramps and bleeding are expected and will be less once the pregnancy has passed. Regular pain relief and anti-nausea tablets are essential, especially in the first 24 hours.


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Better let your wife do the final decision as she is the one that will have to live with the guilt as males will usually shrug it off...

Early medical abortion is an option available up to 9 weeks into a pregnancy.

This type of abortion can be performed in the early weeks of pregnancy (up to 9 weeks). Medication abortion uses a combination of 2 medications – mifepristone and misoprostol – to end an unplanned pregnancy. Medication abortion is a low-risk, non-invasive way to terminate (end) a pregnancy.

Step 1 uses a medicine called Mifepristone. Most people will not notice any effect after taking this medicine.

Step 2 uses a medicine called Misoprostol. This is when the abortion occurs. It is important to be in a safe, quiet place and rest as much as you can. Cramps and bleeding are expected and will be less once the pregnancy has passed. Regular pain relief and anti-nausea tablets are essential, especially in the first 24 hours.
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From what the doctor told us, we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia. Maybe I should consult another gynae.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 31 2025, 10:57 AM)
From what the doctor told us, we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia. Maybe I should consult another gynae.
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From what the doctor told us, we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia. Maybe I should consult another gynae.
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jul 31 2025, 10:53 AM)
Better let your wife do the final decision as she is the one that will have to live with the guilt as males will usually shrug it off...

Early medical abortion is an option available up to 9 weeks into a pregnancy.

This type of abortion can be performed in the early weeks of pregnancy (up to 9 weeks). Medication abortion uses a combination of 2 medications – mifepristone and misoprostol – to end an unplanned pregnancy. Medication abortion is a low-risk, non-invasive way to terminate (end) a pregnancy.

Step 1 uses a medicine called Mifepristone. Most people will not notice any effect after taking this medicine.

Step 2 uses a medicine called Misoprostol. This is when the abortion occurs. It is important to be in a safe, quiet place and rest as much as you can. Cramps and bleeding are expected and will be less once the pregnancy has passed. Regular pain relief and anti-nausea tablets are essential, especially in the first 24 hours.
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This is dangerous medical advise. Do not take abortion medications without the presence of a licensed doctor. Do u know abortions isn't as simple as taking a pill the fetus just disappears?

Most abortions happen when the fetus grows too large (always the case when the woman finds out she's pregnant with delays in making decisions) that a suction needs to be done to extract out the remains of the fetus.


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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jul 31 2025, 11:07 AM)
This is dangerous medical advise. Do not take abortion medications without the presence of a licensed doctor. Do u know abortions isn't as simple as taking a pill the fetus just disappears?

Most abortions happen when the fetus grows too large (always the case when the woman finds out she's pregnant with delays in making decisions) that a suction needs to be done to extract out the remains of the fetus.
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Yes of course need to take under doctor advise, cannot buy underground black market medicine and simply eat
these are prescription medicine anyway
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Jul 31 2025, 11:23 AM)
Yes of course need to take under doctor advise, cannot buy underground black market medicine and simply eat
these are prescription medicine anyway
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That's why I asked op to dm me if he wants contacts for medical abortion.

I always believe there should always be an option to get a proper safe abortion in Malaysia. Don't care about the spiritual side of it. Better than bleeding out in the toilet and dying cuz of stigma
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Sorry to read about what happened.

Vasectomy is less invasive than tube tying: men are fertile THEIR WHOLE LIVES while women are only fertile few days a month for x number of years.

It also sounds like you don't have much time left to make a decision one way or the other. If you say you cannot afford a second child, it means you cannot afford, don't let others here tell you otherwise; they dunno your financial situation, neither are they gonna help pay for it. Kids are expensive nowadays. If you want, great; if don't want, you don't have a lot of time...

The Donahue-Levitt hypothesis states that children who are unwanted or whose parents cannot support them are likelier to become criminals.... Controversial, sure, but...

LPPKN/Klinik Nur charges are not too bad, you should look into it, especially the vasectomy charges... whistling.gif

But at the end of the day, it's your family's (you and spouse) decision to make.

I'm saying this as someone who doesn't want kids at all, so ymmv.
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Several famous individuals were unwanted children, including musicians like John Lennon and Faith Hill, and actress Nicole Kidman.

John Lennon: His parents separated when he was five, and he was raised by his aunt and uncle. 

Faith Hill: She was adopted as an infant and later became a renowned country music star. 

Nicole Kidman: She experienced an unplanned pregnancy and went on to become a celebrated actress. 

Steve Jobs: His biological parents gave him up for adoption. 

Marilyn Monroe: She spent time in foster care and experienced an unstable childhood. 

Jamie Foxx: He was raised by his grandparents after his parents divorced. 

Maya Angelou: She faced a challenging upbringing and later became a celebrated poet and author. 

Kristin Chenoweth: She was adopted as a baby and found success as a Broadway star. 

Bill Clinton: His father passed away before he was born. 

Jesse Jackson: He was born to a teenage mother and faced social stigmas. 

Edgar Allan Poe: His mother died when he was young, and he was taken in by the Allan family. 

Sheryl Crow: She had an unplanned pregnancy and later became a successful musician. 

Tom Cruise: He had a difficult childhood and experienced family instability. 

Ted Danson: He was adopted and later became a well-known actor. 

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me still w8 to get the baby..
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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jul 31 2025, 02:17 PM)
Several famous individuals were unwanted children, including musicians like John Lennon and Faith Hill, and actress Nicole Kidman.

John Lennon: His parents separated when he was five, and he was raised by his aunt and uncle. 

Faith Hill: She was adopted as an infant and later became a renowned country music star. 

Nicole Kidman: She experienced an unplanned pregnancy and went on to become a celebrated actress. 

Steve Jobs: His biological parents gave him up for adoption. 

Marilyn Monroe: She spent time in foster care and experienced an unstable childhood. 

Jamie Foxx: He was raised by his grandparents after his parents divorced. 

Maya Angelou: She faced a challenging upbringing and later became a celebrated poet and author. 

Kristin Chenoweth: She was adopted as a baby and found success as a Broadway star. 

Bill Clinton: His father passed away before he was born. 

Jesse Jackson: He was born to a teenage mother and faced social stigmas. 

Edgar Allan Poe: His mother died when he was young, and he was taken in by the Allan family. 

Sheryl Crow: She had an unplanned pregnancy and later became a successful musician. 

Tom Cruise: He had a difficult childhood and experienced family instability. 

Ted Danson: He was adopted and later became a well-known actor. 
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Go ikat la. Later you got a 3rd den don’t make noise.
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keep the baby...
after delivered, consult your doctor for pills...
the doctor will advise which pill to take base on your wife status..
this can help prevent unwanted pregnancy

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Keep the baby.
Find a way to increase income.

I had similar exp like u before. Accident the 2nd. Pushed me to get out of comfort zone and find new better paying job
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my youngest son was unplanned, really 1 time pancut then get laugh.gif anyway we planned to have 2 children, so we keep it then tutup kilang but no ikat la. i wanted to ikat but waifu said dun. coz she want daughter if got hope. for me 2 enough already... life isn't easy nowadays with inflation but gaji barely go up.

1 that i very scared already is i had to feed midnight "snack"... really feel the pinch after 2 kids and i also aging.

do i regret? despite life really not much freedom, you have to take care both, not much saving, enough to scrap by after paying all stuffs only can bring staycation or travel nearby states, you have to discipline 2 instead of 1... youngest may be a slow learner and more manja... but in the end, no regret.

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Don't forget to record your baby's laughter. That laughter is the most genuine laugh you will ever see.

Mine 2nd unplanned too but wanted just didnt expect too fast. 1st and 2nd exactly 2 years and 2 days different.


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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 31 2025, 10:29 AM)
Update: consulted a gynae at a private hospital on the procedure if say we don't intend to go ahead, and somehow opposed to what some others here have commented, the doctor told us that there's no such thing as taking pills, only possible through surgery here. And have to do it before second trimester.
Currently, still haven't made up our mind yet. Many sacrifices would have to be made including to our first child, some notable changes like no more pre-school with fees of RM1000+ a month, will have to send him to some other sorta Tadika with way lower fees.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 31 2025, 10:57 AM)
From what the doctor told us, we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia. Maybe I should consult another gynae.
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i'm a bit confused, on one hand the gynae told you possible through surgery here And have to do it before second trimester.
on the other hand, advised we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia.

anyway, how long still before you need to make a decision? of course dont leave it last minute la. when you decide time maybe doc not free.
i do believe there is abortion service but its not exactly illegal.

I believe the doc I went to have. but you may have to ask discreetly.
its around setapak, let me know if you need so i can tell you where and you take it from there.

you are right with the concern and like another forumer say, ppl can say whatever they say about your finance. you know better.
even my previous comment dont really encourage abortion but you know best.
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maybe can consider giving the baby to someone to adopt no harm
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 24 2025, 01:07 PM)
pity your one child. Get another one lah.
At lease if got two - they can say they have sibling.

4 ppl in a famili ok what. travel also ngam2.
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adding another cost alot of money, time, energy and attention plus in today economy very risky
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Wtf cost. Dont get kids if u not planning to get two at least. Kesian the poor kid growing up alone. Then alone handle funeral of both parent. U guys never went through taking care old bed ridden ppl talk cock about cost.

Selfish ppl get kid just to unlock achievement. When u talk about only enough money n attention for 1 kid, u are choosing easy life for YOURSELF not for your kid.
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A research study published in the 2025 World Happiness Report that a household size of about four members is predictive of higher happiness levels. People in these households enjoy abundant and very satisfactory relationships.

The family is where people first learn to care for and share with others, creating the foundation for broader social interactions and for wellbeing.

The family works as a reference for how people interact with others in their life.

Families are associated with close, warm, and genuine relationships that last for long stretches in people’s journey in life.

Ref : https://mentalhealthcenterkids.com/blogs/ar...ffect-happiness
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Aug 1 2025, 03:56 PM)
i'm a bit confused, on one hand the gynae told you possible through surgery here And have to do it before second trimester.
on the other hand, advised we don't have medical abortion in Malaysia.

anyway, how long still before you need to make a decision? of course dont leave it last minute la. when you decide time maybe doc not free.
i do believe there is abortion service but its not exactly illegal.

I believe the doc I went to have. but you may have to ask discreetly.
its around setapak, let me know if you need so i can tell you where and you take it from there.

you are right with the concern and like another forumer say, ppl can say whatever they say about your finance. you know better.
even my previous comment dont really encourage abortion but you know best.
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there's medical abortion, but have to take the pills very early on

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Are you able to demand ie. having at least a degree or professional cert etc with great amount of experience? Find a better job, that should mean a better pay.

Obviously no more vacations every year but, find anything of, equivalent. Instead of going for a vacation, considering staycation etc. Spend more time with your kids in the pool, role playing with your kids at home, briskwalking together during car free morning etc. You don't have to fork out money just to be happy.

Of course minus the day care fees, kids food etc lah. Tell you what, we spend alot on eating outside food actually. So cook at home, a simple one will do.


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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 1 2025, 06:43 PM)
Wtf cost. Dont get kids if u not planning to get two at least. Kesian the poor kid growing up alone. Then alone handle funeral of both parent. U guys never went through taking care old bed ridden ppl talk cock about cost.

Selfish ppl get kid just to unlock achievement. When u talk about only enough money n attention for 1 kid, u are choosing easy life for YOURSELF not for your kid.
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wow, kids dont cost money thumbsup.gif
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there's medical abortion, but have to take the pills very early on
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wow, kids dont cost money  :thumbsup:
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no he meant that you should have 0 kids. Or 2 kids. Is cruel to settle at 1 kid
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no he meant that you should have 0 kids. Or 2 kids. Is cruel to settle at 1 kid
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what if cant afford another kid ?

by the way alot of people has 1 kid only
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then y not you cut the tube ?
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errr....i guess when a woman willing to go thru pain to give birth to our child(hers and mine) then take one for the team sounds reasonable? since if you want her do it they need to cut her open AGAIN. Men punya jz outside. smile.gif
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what if cant afford another kid ?

by the way alot of people has 1 kid only
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one kid, then take care of 2 parents, then touchwood take care of their parents....

just my 2 cents, the world is already a very lonely place despite the internet, keep the other one. Initially thought we will be okay with one, but after covid, companionship is easily taken for granted.
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Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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Yo man. How are things at your end? Hope everything is OK.

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anyone done vasectomy before?
care to share their experience? good/ bad? any regret?
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 24 2025, 01:03 PM)
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How many kids u have already?
Since pregnant already - keep it. Later during birth - if through C-Section surgery ask them to 'ikat' the 'peranakan'. (Bilateral tubal ligation)
ie: tutup kilang. (no more preggy)

then after this you piap wifuuuu can panzhuut-zhut-zhut all you want inside - also no problem.

if birth via normal vaginal delivery - then immediately before discharge - ask for appointment for to 'ikat'. Your wifuu will have to come again some other day to do the procedure.
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why no ask husband potong (vasectomy) ?

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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yes me...

Its not just financial but also a lot of time.

baby always want to be on my lap or my wife's lap.

The issue isn't pregnancy time, the issue is after birth.

I am not kidding you...when you are stressed at work and come back to finish work, you have to feed baby, put baby to sleep, baby also cannot be left on in the baby cott too long, change diapers, bath baby, sing song to baby, morning rush baby to day care then go to work, then come back pick up.

Fortunately my baby easy to sleep except when sick.

But I tell you, its worth it. I see my baby's face so cute, the way smile back at me and make those cuddly baby sounds. Also my eldest child loved the baby very much.

My advice...keep the baby. Yes its a lot of suffering but its worth it. When I raised my eldest child, my child is not only my precious child but also my buddy and best friend.

you won't gain anything if you don't fight for it.

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Jul 24 2025, 01:08 PM)
then y not you cut the tube ?
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why not guy go ikat? procedure is much simpler and fast.

saw one youtuber go berkhatan and ikat at the same time. fast and easy.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 23 2025, 10:57 AM)
why no ask husband potong (vasectomy) ?
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'that one can also.
but if wifuu already want to tutup kilang - then much easier to do when already doing c-section. (operate)
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QUOTE(xeNOS @ Jul 24 2025, 01:12 PM)
Go ahead with the pregnancy. Do not abort no matter what. You won't regret it down the road and might thank yourself in keeping the pregnancy years later in hindsight.
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QUOTE(beverlykho @ Jul 24 2025, 01:13 PM)
Hang in there, Bro. My wife is 45 and I am 48, and we had our first child last year. After 20 years of waiting, and due to my wife having PCOS and now wanting the operation, we just left things as it was, prayed and got on with our lives.

And then Wife got pregnant. More renewed praying and we finally decided to keep the baby whatever NIPT said. And I tell you, at our age, EVERY THING AND EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. Financial strain, holidays out the window, sleep out the window and the cold-sweat thinking that she'll only be 12 when I retire. But that was the hand we were dealt and we'll play it to the end. So, hang in there, whatever you decide.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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I actually aborted when I found out I was preggy. I have 2 kids already and having a 3rd one will really stress us out financially. Long story short, sometimes I feel regret for not keeping her/him. But at times I felt I made the right decision because our financial now is just nice for a family of four...Hope you make the right decision and don't regret it no matter what.
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QUOTE(TinyTots @ Sep 23 2025, 02:09 PM)
I actually aborted when I found out I was preggy. I have 2 kids already and having a 3rd one will really stress us out financially. Long story short, sometimes I feel regret for not keeping her/him. But at times I felt I made the right decision because our financial now is just nice for a family of four...Hope you make the right decision and don't regret it no matter what.
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Don't blame yourself, cuz previously the situation is different, what if that situation still the same until now, both of you will stress and struggle each month
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 23 2025, 05:14 PM)
Don't blame yourself, cuz previously the situation is different, what if that situation still the same until now, both of you will stress and struggle each month
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Yes, confirm will stress as that time we were not financially stable. every month also just enough to meet ends. Sometimes not enough and we need to borrow money sad.gif
So, it it's an unplanned pregnancy really need to think properly if financial not stable. If got money, then is ok lah. Go ahead, no need think twice.
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QUOTE(TinyTots @ Sep 23 2025, 05:25 PM)
Yes, confirm will stress as that time we were not financially stable. every month also just enough to meet ends. Sometimes not enough and we need to borrow money  sad.gif
So, it it's an unplanned pregnancy really need to think properly if financial not stable. If got money, then is ok lah. Go ahead, no need think twice.
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Yea, it's okey, but it's a good of you for telling this so that people will think bout it before make any decision 😇
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How did u treat ur wife's PCOS?
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Never treated it medically as she is afraid of needles. We just let it be and prayed. So the pregnancy was a miracle for us... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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F me sideways, I just realised TS got SUSed. What happened?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 24 2025, 03:44 PM)
It's daycare procedure for guys if I am not wrong.
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yup. I saw in XHS people actually went for vasectomy+sunat at the same time. done in 1 hour.
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F me sideways, I just realised TS got SUSed. What happened?
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what is SUS?
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what is SUS?
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suspended  sweat.gif
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aiyok, that is one very confident TS to be able to count the number of protection he use.
padan muka kena sus.
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what is SUS?
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SUS = Forum mandated and enforced holiday. Sort of like garden leave, without the garden and forum.
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QUOTE(TsubakiKira @ Sep 24 2025, 12:21 PM)
aiyok, that is one very confident TS to be able to count the number of protection he use.
padan muka kena sus.
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What was his offence?
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yup. I saw in XHS people actually went for vasectomy+sunat at the same time. done in 1 hour.
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what is the price RM for vasectomy?
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:06 PM)
Currently one, we infact planned to only have one.
Thanks for the advice, will have a talk with her and hopefully she agrees to do that. She was reluctant previously, and asked why it couldn't be me to be the one doing the surgery. Lol.
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Implanon is one option..
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:39 PM)
She prefers to go ahead with the kid. But ultimately, she said she'll go with my decision, as she is fully aware of our financial situation now.
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if thats the case you two should go ahead with the kids. Things will sort out themselves moving forward.
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yup. I saw in XHS people actually went for vasectomy+sunat at the same time. done in 1 hour.
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sunat for adult really? I thought sunat always for kids only
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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this time you didnt wear?
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 01:22 PM)
To be honest, it did cross our mind, and infact it still is. But due to the fact that it's not so accessible here, we are a bit lost now on what the best next course action is.

Frankly, after seeing all the charsiu children nowadays, wouldn't be so sure that I'll thank myself in the future though. But thanks for the encouragement!
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so did it cross your mind about all this when you piap her?
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In government hospital is RM15
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sunat for adult really? I thought sunat always for kids only
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I think many people even when adult still not yet sunated. So I think can be done when adult.
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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Jul 24 2025, 12:55 PM)
Anyone here or your wife has had unplanned pregnancy? What was your final decision?

I've just found out my wife is pregnant again. All my life, I've only worn protection 3 times. I was always so sure of myself but this finally happened. Wife should be around 4 weeks pregnant now. Our financial situation isn't that great at the moment, and I'm really stressed out on what action we should take next.
Worse comes to worst, we will need to really buckle up, eat mixed rice everyday and no more vacation, not even local holidays.

Care to share any similar experience?
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Children are always a blessing but that blessing comes with 3R,


Risk - risk of some congenital defects or heath. can't do much other than pray and regular hralth checks

Responsibility - Need to raise the properly with guidance, love etc

Reward - seeing the grow up as you and your wife age

it's only tight and tough at the early years

after that things get better but you have to save up for their education and your own retirement

God speed TS
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Apakah update TS? Tiba tiba kena sus pulak lolz.
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Book for the abortion.

Once the abortion has done.

Go book for Hysterectomy for your wife and Vasectomy for the husband.

Then both of u will no longer worry about unexpected pregnancy.

Study shows that many parents have high resentment towards kids that were born due to unexpected pregnancy.
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sunat for adult really? I thought sunat always for kids only
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Not true. Any adult can go for circumcision. With the laser technique, you'll be ready for action very, very fast.

 

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