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BL98
post Jul 18 2025, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Jul 9 2025, 10:21 PM)
Personally prefer agent, less hassle, some owners are hard to deal with, especially when it comes to price nego, might even get ghosted.

Wanna visit house also need to be at owner’s convenience. Agent will get the keys and try to make it at your time.

That’s just my thoughts. Bought my sub sale from agent. Didn’t mind letting him earn, house is less than 1m..
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some agents hike the selling price expecting buyer to nego price. The agent pretend to help buyer to nego price with owner, but in reality, the agent just fake the negotiations.

as long as the agreed price is higher than the expected price by owner, then agent might also able to pocket the price difference, ON TOP of the commissions.
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post Jul 18 2025, 01:42 AM

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If TS willing to put in extra effort, to save the 1% agent fee, then by all means. If you are first time buyer, and not sure the process... paying the 1% is worth it in my opinion. Besides, lawyer has their own task and will not help much in chasing banker loan release, facilitating information to bank or provide inside view of property condition. And if SnP is not complete in time, the penalty maybe higher than the agent fee... But then again, if your agent is not working for you looking after all this, then find yourself a better agent. Think in a positive way, this may not be your one and only house purchase... there maybe more to come, or your house need to be rent out or fix up. The agent can help up if you have established a good working relationship.
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post Jul 18 2025, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2025, 01:22 AM)
some agents hike the selling price expecting buyer to nego price. The agent pretend to help buyer to nego price with owner, but in reality, the agent just fake the negotiations.

as long as the agreed price is higher than the expected price by owner, then agent might also able to pocket the price difference, ON TOP of the commissions.
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You high on drugs with that comments ?
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post Jul 18 2025, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2025, 01:22 AM)
some agents hike the selling price expecting buyer to nego price. The agent pretend to help buyer to nego price with owner, but in reality, the agent just fake the negotiations.

as long as the agreed price is higher than the expected price by owner, then agent might also able to pocket the price difference, ON TOP of the commissions.
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for my case.. didnt seem like faking it.

i visited 3 times before deciding to purchase, one of the visits, the owner happened to be nearby to come around.. i nego-ed down a bit, owner was reluctant, but in the end he nodded.

but after few days i asked agent to help nego lower lagi, end up manage to get another -3K.

previous owner renovated the place gao gao, so wasn't quite willing to let go at much lower price.
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post Jul 18 2025, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 18 2025, 07:43 AM)
You high on drugs with that comments ?
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based on my observation
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post Jul 18 2025, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2025, 03:49 PM)
based on my observation
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Observation when high on drugs 😂
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2025, 02:22 AM)
some agents hike the selling price expecting buyer to nego price. The agent pretend to help buyer to nego price with owner, but in reality, the agent just fake the negotiations.

as long as the agreed price is higher than the expected price by owner, then agent might also able to pocket the price difference, ON TOP of the commissions.
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This one last time back 10-15 years back when property good market then can do la.

Nowadays where got property can upsell like that.

Owner asked for 1M.

We post RM998k.

Infact, that RM2k came from agent own commission. Consider cut own comission to beg buyer to buy.
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post Jul 18 2025, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jul 18 2025, 02:42 AM)
If TS willing to put in extra effort, to save the 1% agent fee, then by all means. If you are first time buyer, and not sure the process... paying the 1% is worth it in my opinion. Besides, lawyer has their own task and will not help much in chasing banker loan release, facilitating information to bank or provide inside view of property condition. And if SnP is not complete in time, the penalty maybe higher than the agent fee... But then again, if your agent is not working for you looking after all this, then find yourself a better agent. Think in a positive way, this may not be your one and only house purchase... there maybe more to come, or your house need to be rent out or fix up. The agent can help up if you have established a good working relationship.
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Not to miss out that the fact the agent will monitor and keep chase the lawyer until SnP done. Coz if SnP not done yet, agent also cannot claim commission from company yet.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 12 2025, 01:19 PM)
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Bro, this won't stop. All you need to do is to say "I already sold tq."

if U didn't tell that agent about this, the same agent will contact you again using other number coz he just assuming that you didn't reply, and there might be a chance if continue asking
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post Jul 18 2025, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jul 18 2025, 06:32 PM)
Bro, this won't stop. All you need to do is to say "I already sold tq."

if U didn't tell that agent about this, the same agent will contact you again using other number coz he just assuming that you didn't reply, and there might be a chance if continue asking
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It's ok. These pests only bug me twice a year. Ever since I blocked them, already 2 years straight without them calling or spamming. Peace.
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post Jul 18 2025, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 18 2025, 07:33 PM)
It's ok. These pests only bug me twice a year. Ever since I blocked them, already 2 years straight without them calling or spamming. Peace.
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Which residence? Old one?
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post Jul 18 2025, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jul 18 2025, 06:36 PM)
Which residence? Old one?
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I sold my bachelor pad apartment more than 10 years ago.

And the family home about 5 years ago.

These agents don't do their homework but rely outdated databases.
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post Jul 18 2025, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 18 2025, 06:38 PM)
I sold my bachelor pad apartment more than 10 years ago.

And the family home about 5 years ago.

These agents don't do their homework but rely outdated databases.
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What is your meaning or 'outdated database' ? Are you saying those data that are few months or one or two years ago ?

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post Jul 18 2025, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Jul 9 2025, 11:29 PM)
Can share the steps to buy/ sell without agent?
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??

Advertise with ur own phone number, paperwork get a lawyer to do (both owner & buyer must agree on the same lawyer)
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post Jul 18 2025, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 18 2025, 11:41 PM)
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Advertise with ur own phone number, paperwork get a lawyer to do (both owner & buyer must agree on the same lawyer)
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Why must use the same lawyer?
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post Jul 19 2025, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 18 2025, 11:41 PM)
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Advertise with ur own phone number, paperwork get a lawyer to do (both owner & buyer must agree on the same lawyer)
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Negotiators will call you till you surrender.

Majority FSBO will eventually closed by negotiators

Since is 'must' , I don't mind if seller pays my legal fees.🤣
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post Jul 19 2025, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 18 2025, 10:37 PM)
What is your meaning or 'outdated database' ? Are you saying those data that are few months or one or two years ago ?
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Data from the developers mostly. If u sell the property, the new owner will not be updated.
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post Jul 19 2025, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jul 18 2025, 11:41 PM)
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Advertise with ur own phone number, paperwork get a lawyer to do (both owner & buyer must agree on the same lawyer)
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 18 2025, 11:53 PM)
Why must use the same lawyer?
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Separate lawyer also can..

But for selling and buying house is the same purpose what.. Can use same lawyer to reduce cost
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 19 2025, 09:51 AM)
Data from the developers mostly. If u sell the property, the new owner will not be updated.
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Last time data from developer. Now not anymore.

QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jul 19 2025, 11:23 AM)
Separate lawyer also can..

But for selling and buying house is the same purpose what.. Can use same lawyer to reduce cost
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Yes but not recommended. Between have your own lawyer to represent yourself. If the lawyer sided with one side of the party. Some term might not be fair
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post Jul 19 2025, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jul 19 2025, 10:23 AM)
Separate lawyer also can..

But for selling and buying house is the same purpose what.. Can use same lawyer to reduce cost
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I know we can use same lawyer. But he mentioned *must* use same lawyer. Can and must aren't the same.

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