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Is property investment still worth it?
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Mixxomon
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Jul 1 2025, 09:07 AM
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Only possibility for massive increase in value is if you look at new development area or new township areas. That also comes with its own set of risk. If township program successful then profit, but if failure or abandoned then you're left holding the bag. QUOTE(giftfre @ Jul 1 2025, 09:06 AM) Condominium and Flat property value will stagnant and the property itself aging, facilities need to fix/ replace. If the Persatuan Penduduk is under perform then the whole asset will depleting from time to time. That's the biggest issue I have with Condo. Your condo conditions is dependent on the JMC attitude. This post has been edited by Mixxomon: Jul 1 2025, 09:09 AM
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Mixxomon
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Jul 1 2025, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(Haiwelcome @ Jul 1 2025, 11:51 AM) I agree with you... oversupply of condo units (i.e. esp oversupply of new highrise development) kills subsale market and also renting market. What I see, developers are crazy to develop new highrise to give advantage of zero entry cost offer to first time buyer under 20-s or early 30s. This group of peoples nowadays I doubt have savings to afford buying subsale. No or little savings maybe due to high cost of living and tend to spend money to maintain lifestyle such as temptation spend money for viral food and drink, clothing, travelling, etc to keep up with media social world. I read as, property speculators refuse to realize their loss, rather hold property with inflated asking price, then blame developers for lowering cost and barrier for new properties, and young adults for not allocating 80% of their paycheck to mortgage and downpayment. This post has been edited by Mixxomon: Jul 1 2025, 12:08 PM
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Mixxomon
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Jul 1 2025, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Haiwelcome @ Jul 1 2025, 12:24 PM) Developers are not selling at lower cost, mind you. In fact developer's unit is more expensive. But developers make it smaller unit from 750sqft to 950sqft so that it is looks affordable to buyers. If you compare the price per sqfeet, new units from developers is way more expensive. The buyer will be at loss in next 5 to 10 years when they have to complete with older condo with bigger sqfeet. New unit is indeed still more expensive, I calculated around 23% higher more than subsale using ur 600/1000sqft new vs 600/1500sqft subsale scenario. For some, this is a premium they're willing to pay for new property vs subsale. Don't forget subsale you need to deal with potential defects, repair cost etc. QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jul 1 2025, 12:30 PM) Only if there’s a policy change to encourage purchase of subsale prop, such as openly allowing 0 downpayment, which i doubt will happen. If seller desperate, they can work around it privately. But are they willing? This post has been edited by Mixxomon: Jul 1 2025, 12:44 PM
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