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 MBBS UM Chinese Intake 40% to 4%, What’s going on?

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post Jun 27 2025, 11:56 AM

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Because the non Malay cabut to Singapore every time
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:20 PM

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Back in the day the quota was approximately 55% Malay

MCA championed for the removal because the dog was told to do so, after that, the numbers on average for all courses approximate only 15% for the non Malays

Why? Because there is existence of matriculation which had 90% over Malay composition

So the one bringing MCA into this should be ashamed
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 27 2025, 12:23 PM)
2024 drop why still mca?

2024 2023 is MCA in power meh?
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This issue of higher education independence was due to BN time - where they significantly cut budget particularly 2016.

They were told to figure out own finances, in which prior to PH coming in power in 2018, in 2017, they decided to find ways to generate side hustle and increase the open system. The uni were granted some soft independence.

The issue of the non malays leaving for singapore was getting more prevalent

This issue has caused UM to use their independence to move the slots all to open slots

Wanna leave for singapore? sure pay up then go.

End of the day, it will still be a loss to Malaysia

All this is public information, no need to prop up MCA especially when they are also guilty
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 27 2025, 12:31 PM)
so 2022 2023 why no changes?
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The education budget increased during this period

So how? You going to praise who?
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 27 2025, 12:33 PM)
then why 2024 intake drop?
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already mentioned previously
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jun 27 2025, 12:35 PM)
Maybe because this -
UM and UKM medical degrees are the onli medical degrees recognized by SG.
Govt maybe pissed - waste money train doctors - they go run away and work next door.  biggrin.gif

UMS and UNIMAS - on the other hand... mana mau lari haa?
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its a combination of the fact that UM can also earn money from this

if the really want to put the slots back, then perhaps consider bonding the students, if dont work 5 years, then pay back the subsidy cost just like singapore - singapore also bond the international students 700k SGD subsidy including interest if dont complete the 6 y bond. This on top of paying 400k SGD in tuition fees
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(LDP @ Jun 27 2025, 12:46 PM)
Pls enlighten me. Non citizen can study MBBS in Singapore ?
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Singapore style is like this, if you are truly bright, they will take you in. They want net brain intake into their country.

So they only take the very best for their international students for the MBBS programme.

But they also want to retain the best because of national interest.

So the students are bonded to work for 6 years.

In the NUS contract, it will stipulate the amount subsidised by the gov, to which will have to be paid if bond broken.

Comes up to 700k SGD ish. On top of compound interest.


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post Jun 27 2025, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(LDP @ Jun 27 2025, 12:53 PM)
Thx for the info. I have heard its like near zero acceptance rate for foreigners..
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Yeah that is true. Doesnt mean it doesnt exist.

It has tightened up over the years. Even though it was already tight previously.

The numbers can be counted by hand.

The tell that one has gone to do this from Malaysia is when one of the accepted UM students suddenly leave before the start of the UM program. Quite often the student is 5 subjects 4.0.

They wont ever return because very quickly the specialization program start and then very quickly the subspecialisation program also start soon after. There is no reason to go back to Malaysia.
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post Jun 27 2025, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 27 2025, 01:37 PM)
This is very likely the main reason to be honest. I do know someone studying medical in UM right now, I shall ask her and see if she wanted to go SG or not  laugh.gif
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The dean already complain in the news every time

Even if they say won't go, the reality is all the non Malay left, according to a teacher I met, her brother left in 2023

If leave 100% will become citizen of Singapore

They want the commitment
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post Jun 27 2025, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 27 2025, 02:00 PM)
Yep, many wanna go SG. Can't blame them, because the pays are so good and the exposure plus opportunities also plenty. Knew someone went to SG and becomes Specialist earning big bucks in SGD. Funny is she came back to Malaysia and got pick pocketed... lost her purse. I asked how much she lost, she said... just lost my OT money, about 7k-8k MYR. Can earn it back in 1 night.. no biggie. -True story,
It's up to UM working together with Ministry of Health to bond these students. However, from what I am looking at even the housemanship issue can't be resolved, meaning there are too many medic grads.. that's why.

And not necessarily becomes citizen of SG, my friend ended up married a Malaysian...

You have to know, if your salary so damn high, you will not be attracted by BTO scheme from the government. Without BTO, SG actually is nothing. Only those average Malaysian that kena attracted by the BTO and ended up naively given up their citizenship, and I personally think that many of these ex-Malaysian was blinded by the "perfect Singapore image" curated by the SG government and did not thoroughly ponder about it
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But it's hard to ignore that scheme, especially when there is some low level of emotional career "blackmail" going on

Plus sorry to say there is a lot of brain washing going on as well

To me, the of the day, how much money one really require?

I've seen money destroy more people than actually resolve the underlying issue.

Then there's also a group of Malaysian always complain, when become Singaporean, also complain about Singapore quietly, then wanna go Australia. Sure or not. Confirm complain about Australia later also.


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post Jun 27 2025, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jun 27 2025, 02:22 PM)
I would not call it as "blackmail", I will call it "pressure" instead. I agree some of these pressure can very well be categorised as blackmail.

Yea, brain washing is strong there, it's like a "cult" movement if you like hanging up with these Singaporean in SG.

Money is never enough, but people with that kind of money have been snatching assets in Malaysia. The problem with BTO is, there are so many T&C, it is not worth it at all if one can afford to go for private assets in SG.

And the blackmail won't work because the demands for "specialist" there is too damn high, you know very well they can't afford to let go any good and proven "specialist". That's why regardless the T&C from gov or the "pressure", these people shall have the table.

And Type C that are capable of entering to UM to study Med through own merits etc, typically ain't that dumb, I know they will play their games right.
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But in the end that's how it is

tbh I think every one is somewhat guilty to how the situation played out

But I think Malaysia really need to up their game instead of losing talent
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post Jun 27 2025, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 27 2025, 02:51 PM)
Please jgn generalised.
Medical staff cabut to other countries for better pay & working conditions.
Malaysia gomen is losing many medical staff from nurses, doctors to specialists, irrespective of skin color to private sectors and other countries.
Buat mcm you don't know how stressful, under paid & over work for all gomen medical staff.
Of course quit!
The number of housemen has also plummeted by half between 2019 to 2023. The nursing shortage could hit 60% by 2030.
Work non stop till mati ke?


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Of course every single colour involved

But in regards to this specific one, it's majority nons

That's my theory of what's going on anyway

Don't have the exact details

As usual ktard investigator, expert in everything
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post Jun 27 2025, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 27 2025, 03:07 PM)
KKM seRinggit fiasco.
Medical expenses have gone up worldwide!
SeRinggit can't even buy a cup of water in many places!

The only way to fix Malaysia Public Health is to bar all MPs, Adun & their immediate families members from seeking medical treatment /health care in Private Hospitals or overseas hospitals.
Can only do so in public Hospitals or else gets terminate as MP/Adun.
As MP/Adun you no confident with public health then don't be MP/Adun!
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Ya

Increase tax a bit already complain

If increase from rm1?

Immediate political suicide

Tbh it's just a general Malaysian issue

Gov, citizen, to me, all the same only.

Try to evade tax, same only to those corrupt politician.

Try to bribe police etc
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post Jun 27 2025, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 27 2025, 03:51 PM)
The media took the wrong information. Those figures are just people who joined the survey.  doh.gif
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So what's the correct information boss
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post Jun 27 2025, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 27 2025, 04:28 PM)
Medicine intake was 71/199.

The real issue lies within STPM being the second class citizen.  puke.gif
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jun 27 2025, 04:28 PM)
actually the number is still the same. Just that most of them is thru direct intake self pay RM500k.
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Is this the reason?

So the stpm intake is mostly through open, not upu?
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post Jun 27 2025, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 27 2025, 04:39 PM)
Correct. But we all know STPM % will look sad.  laugh.gif

What media reported is misleading. One with critical thinking will further question. In fact I checked the figure for my batch during my time, it was incorrect too.  wink.gif
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But this was already pointed out by the thread yesterday.

The upu intake for stpm was only 4% from total from the 500k um medicine thread, therefore reflecting what I assumed they are trying to say here no?

I don't know mandarin, but looking at the numbers, it seems to be the case
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post Jun 27 2025, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 27 2025, 04:48 PM)
The so called intake standard has 90% weight on CGPA and 10% weightage on koko.

CGPA:
Matriculation - Easier to score
STPM - Just ask anyone on the street. People will tell you it is hell.

Koko:
Matriculation students has more access to broader level of activities. Say if you represent the college, you are already state level, completed with support & transport.
For STPM, you start from district level.

Well, academic wise, you can grind damn hard can get 4.0, then the key differentiator becomes koko mark, which you don't have the chance to score. You time goes to transport & grind harder in academy, not much time left for the state or even national level competition.
The media took the incomplete STPM figure (or just those who took the survey?) as entire chinese, which is incorrect.  puke.gif
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If say like this, then the stpm schools need some sort of mechanism to score for koko

I know school overseas, always got random sporting event with the area, state etc. it's on seasonal basis. And they get everyone involved from primary school.

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And the activities are arranged by the school themselves

They are somewhat independent from the gov

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Jun 27 2025, 04:48 PM)
The so called intake standard has 90% weight on CGPA and 10% weightage on koko.

CGPA:
Matriculation - Easier to score
STPM - Just ask anyone on the street. People will tell you it is hell.

Koko:
Matriculation students has more access to broader level of activities. Say if you represent the college, you are already state level, completed with support & transport.
For STPM, you start from district level.

Well, academic wise, you can grind damn hard can get 4.0, then the key differentiator becomes koko mark, which you don't have the chance to score. You time goes to transport & grind harder in academy, not much time left for the state or even national level competition.
The media took the incomplete STPM figure (or just those who took the survey?) as entire chinese, which is incorrect.  puke.gif
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Ic I don't know what they are talking about there in mandarin.

All I know was the statistics from the thread yesterday, so I project off it

 

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