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 why suprima S and preve have such low RV?

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post Jun 26 2025, 08:46 AM, updated 6 months ago

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Just curious. back then in 2015 era, almost shopped for these 2 cars.

but now the cars at the same era, (2015 honda jazz/ vios) still plenty on the road, but these 2 proton cars can hardly be seen on the road now.

what went wrong with them?

the saga flx is still a lot on the road , though.
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post Jun 26 2025, 08:48 AM

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Proton where got high RV one?
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post Jun 26 2025, 08:52 AM

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because of the OCH issue, it can cause major breakdown without any warning
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post Jun 26 2025, 09:00 AM

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Good bargains for future owners.

OCH is a non-issue as long u change it at 40K km each time.
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post Jun 26 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jun 26 2025, 09:48 AM)
Proton where got high RV one?
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Yes, but only Proton Satria GTi. laugh.gif

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post Jun 26 2025, 10:25 AM

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People change for more fuel efficient car bro. as proton really suck fuel like no tomorrow. even my saga suck fuel as hard as my accord. lol.

I also aware, very less suprima s nowadays. Even I admire this suprima s. but people nowadays dont want to use suprima s.
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post Jun 26 2025, 10:56 AM

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reliability scares probably, early proton cvt + turbo and not to mention terrible fuel economy.
seeing how ron95 will increase price im thinking consumers are more sensitive to fuel economy now.
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 26 2025, 08:46 AM)
Just curious. back then in 2015 era, almost shopped for these 2 cars.

but now the cars at the same era,  (2015 honda jazz/ vios) still plenty on the road, but these 2 proton cars can hardly be seen on the road now.

what went wrong with them?

the saga flx is still a lot on the road , though.
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The Proton Preve or Suprima is the first Proton car which comes with a turbo engine version if I'm not mistaken. I owned the Preve Turbo first generation and although a pretty solid car at its price range RM69k new, reliability is its Achilles heel, apart from not-very-good fuel consumption as reported by most here. These are some of my experiences, though I may have forgotten some.

1. Gearbox malfunction in the 2nd year of ownership which require a replacement. Symptoms of the damaged gearbox include a weird sound during acceleration, and the car wasn't accelerating normally although pressure was exerted to the pedal. Brought the car to the service centre and they confirmed the gearbox is kaput. Fortunately the gearbox broke just before the warranty period. OTherwise it's massive cost to repair.

2. Oil cooler hose (OCH) recall for the Preve turbo. Apparently it was reported that the OCH can't last long and needs to be replaced periodically to prevent a disaster which can lead to expensive repairs if the hose breaks.

3. Gear knob failure as the piece came out when I was changing gears to park the car. I have to live with it for few days or weeks by temporarily tying the loose piece with a rubber band as I didn't have time to bring it to the service centre to have it replaced with a new gear knob. To be frank, the gear knob of the Proton Preve feels like a toy car as it feels very flimsy even when changing through the gears. There is a looseness feel to it. It actually broke two times, once was when the whole thing just came out, while the other incident was the plastic piece was dislodged from the handle or knob.

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4. Not very good NVH, loud noises in the cabin mainly due to the sound from the turbo engine, and higher than usual rattling sound.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: Jun 26 2025, 02:35 PM
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:27 PM

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The CVT gearbox is also problematic, isn't it ?
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 26 2025, 02:27 PM)
The CVT gearbox is also problematic, isn't it ?
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In mine, yes.
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 26 2025, 02:25 PM)
The Proton Preve or Suprima is the first Proton car which comes with a turbo engine version if I'm not mistaken. I owned the Preve Turbo first generation and although a pretty solid car at its price range RM69k new, reliability is its Achilles heel, apart from not-very-good fuel consumption as reported by most here. These are some of my experiences, though I may have forgotten some.

1. Gearbox malfunction in the 2nd year of ownership which require a replacement. Symptoms of the damaged gearbox include a weird sound during acceleration, and the car wasn't accelerating normally although pressure was exerted to the pedal. Brought the car to the service centre and they confirmed the gearbox is kaput. Fortunately the gearbox broke just before the warranty period. OTherwise it's massive cost to repair.

2. Oil cooler hose (OCH) recall for the Preve turbo. Apparently it was reported that the OCH can't last long and needs to be replaced periodically to prevent a disaster which can lead to expensive repairs if the hose breaks.

3. Gear knob failure as the piece came out when I was changing gears to park the car. I have to live with it for few days or weeks by temporarily tying the loose piece with a rubber band as I didn't have time to bring it to the service centre to have it replaced with a new gear knob. To be frank, the gear knob of the Proton Preve feels like a toy car as it feels very flimsy even when changing through the gears. There is a looseness feel to it. It actually broke two times, once was when the whole thing just came out, while the other incident was the plastic piece was dislodged from the handle or knob.

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4. Not very good NVH, loud noises in the cabin mainly due to the sound from the turbo engine, and higher than usual rattling sound.
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thanks for the share.

do you still use yours? or sold ady?
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 26 2025, 02:39 PM)
thanks for the share.

do you still use yours? or sold ady?
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Sold long time ago before Covid, in 2018 or 2019.
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post Jun 26 2025, 03:08 PM

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my launch preve high spec model was sold for only RM13k after 8 years. massive depreciation. towards the end, car would auto shut down while waiting at traffic light. gear also started misfiring. OCH was periodically changed as per SC advise.

but yes, petrol consumption was bad. max 380-400km on full tank.
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post Jun 26 2025, 04:22 PM

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Exora owner here. which has that cfe engine . 11 years of ownership.

To own these cars it's a love and hate affair. Must send to a workshop which really knows about Cfe engine and cvt gearbox for major repairs otherwise it's a headache if repaired by a mechanic who doesn't know what he is doing.

Yes, I love the car for it's ample space and turbo power. but it's a hate affair because of the fuel consumption and delicate maintenence.
I've seen Exora turbo already done 280,000ks and 1 Exora owner claims he already done 300ks.

About the other problem, I have spoken to a Exora specialist , En Zainuddin located in Sri Muda, and he says to overcome the OCH problem is to change the oil, pump to Campro Cps version. No need to "custom och".
Touch wood I haven't blown my och. Now changed to OCH v2 or known as semi steel piping.
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just nornal vehicles. never admire
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post Jun 26 2025, 07:03 PM

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Low RV maybe because of campro turbo and cvt.
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post Jun 27 2025, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Jun 26 2025, 03:08 PM)
my launch preve high spec model was sold for only RM13k after 8 years. massive depreciation. towards the end, car would auto shut down while waiting at traffic light. gear also started misfiring. OCH was periodically changed as per SC advise.

but yes, petrol consumption was bad. max 380-400km on full tank.
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For a car below RM70k, even though it's bad deprecation the losses are relatively minor when compared to a car which is priced above RM100k. If your car sold at RM13k after 8 years, the loss is RM56k. My Ford Focus bought RM105k, sold for only RM12k after 10 years. Loss is a massive RM93k. If the vehicle is RM150k or higher, even though resale value is good, the losses will still be higher when compared to a much cheaper car.

In summary, if you want minimise losses, just get a cheap car.
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post Jun 27 2025, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Jun 27 2025, 11:54 AM)
For a car below RM70k, even though it's bad deprecation the losses are relatively minor when compared to a car which is priced above RM100k. If your car sold at RM13k after 8 years, the loss is RM56k. My Ford Focus bought RM105k, sold for only RM12k after 10 years. Loss is a massive RM93k. If the vehicle is RM150k or higher, even though resale value is good, the losses will still be higher when compared to a much cheaper car.

In summary, if you want minimise losses, just get a cheap car.
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I’ll compare with my brothers Honda City. Bought same year at 80k. Sold after 8 years at 43k.

Note: I bought my Preve for 74k

This post has been edited by deepan84: Jun 27 2025, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jun 26 2025, 09:08 AM)
Yes, but only Proton Satria GTi.  laugh.gif
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R3 version too 😵

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