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post Jun 25 2025, 08:27 AM, updated 6 months ago

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This is why every woman considering marriage should never feel pressured to quit her job. Financial independence isn't just empowering, it's essential. Always have your own income, your own savings, and your own sense of security. Love should never require you to give up your autonomy. flex.gif



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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:29 AM

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Dont simply convert. Get out of it while still can
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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50-50
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:33 AM

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HOTEL CALIFORNIAAAAAAAA
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Ukeke, don't pretend you don't know what is hotel california.
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:36 AM

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never check into hotel california...can piap with ease in other hotels.
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:36 AM

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Make it viral la.. apa majlis agama / masjid buat? Church pun tolong bukan satu agama..

I want to know where that majlis agama / masjid place that she goes too..

Should be reported not doing the job
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:32 AM)
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0 chance.....

Cibai & LJ gatal .... really deserved it.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Nope at least not so easily.
It's easier to migrate to other country
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:38 AM

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Nothing to do with religion

Ownself did not think to secure own welfare
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:38 AM

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Religiously screwed to a divine level.
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:39 AM

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cina ini x fikir betul betul
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:40 AM

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In the video she mention she went for masjid n zakat for help but they assumed her as scammer and kick her away

Then she went to church for help

I think she did not go thru the right channel or proper way for help
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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jgn tanye soalan yg susah pagi pgi nie...
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:43 AM

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Agree with your caption

Regardless covert or not, dont lose means to be independent
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
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Unlikely
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(aziratul @ Jun 25 2025, 08:36 AM)
Make it viral la.. apa majlis agama / masjid buat? Church pun tolong bukan satu agama..

I want to know where that majlis agama / masjid place that she goes too..

Should be reported not doing the job
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This, kasi sound kaw kaw but settle dalaman je la, tak payah la viral2.

I do believe masjid will help, just that the particular person she asks is one of a kind.
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:44 AM

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hotel california.
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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Jun 25 2025, 08:40 AM)
In the video she mention she went for masjid n zakat for  help but they assumed her as scammer and kick her away

Then she went to church for help

I think she did not go thru the right channel or proper way for help
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Don't talk cock
What is the right channel or proper way?
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post Jun 25 2025, 08:48 AM

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apa suka suka revert and now want to convert back

tak boleh, okay?

once you are in, then you are in for life!
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Jun 25 2025, 08:36 AM)
Make it viral la.. apa majlis agama / masjid buat? Church pun tolong bukan satu agama..

I want to know where that majlis agama / masjid place that she goes too..

Should be reported not doing the job
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:32 AM)
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:37 AM)
0 chance.....

Cibai & LJ gatal .... really deserved it.
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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:54 AM)
Yau mou ?
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:39 AM)
cina ini x fikir betul betul
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In the age of the internet, non Muslims have no excuse of being ignorant of the problems.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Ur only chance is get out of Malaysia..... rolleyes.gif
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Hotel California, no more freedom
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Sebelah rumah mak aku cina lelaki convert x kawin pon tapi dapat ja bantuan zakat.
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post Jun 25 2025, 09:04 AM

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post Jun 25 2025, 09:05 AM

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bukan salahan religion. salahan budaya and the ppl the religion associated with is not a great ambassador
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QUOTE(ts1 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:39 AM)
cina ini x fikir betul betul
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Maybe she believes the guy really love her, won't leave her, sincere and responsible guy.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Very very unlikely.

Better to migrate overseas and renounce citizenship and start over.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 25 2025, 09:11 AM)
Very very unlikely.

Better to migrate overseas and renounce citizenship and start over.
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got one ex Kelantan football player fell in love and married an Australian, he migrated and converted.

But these days not easy to migrate, foreign countries are closing their doors.

Also a lot of competition from CCP migrants clog up housing and raise real estate prices like in Australia.
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haha....mesti kena divert jadi sokong agama punya topic.
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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Jun 25 2025, 08:40 AM)
In the video she mention she went for masjid n zakat for  help but they assumed her as scammer and kick her away

Then she went to church for help

I think she did not go thru the right channel or proper way for help
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bro you memang supertuhan.
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Jun 25 2025, 08:36 AM)
Make it viral la.. apa majlis agama / masjid buat? Church pun tolong bukan satu agama..

I want to know where that majlis agama / masjid place that she goes too..

Should be reported not doing the job
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why she not go to other masjid minta tolong hmm.gif
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this is why many girls today chose to stay single until old

and yet /k/tard also keep saying women after 30 is basi sudah laugh.gif

it has nothing to do with religion, it's more like choosing the correct partner

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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
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kenot la.
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
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cannot dik

u mistaken hotel california with hilton
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Takut kena scam hew hewww
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Just FWB enough la ....

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I wud call her dai sei. Yiu knoes very well this trap, yet yiu step into it.
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If you choose a partner and plan to marry but have to convert to your partner religion, you better think twice

No 1 force you to sign the convert papers and once you sign dont kpkb later say cannot change religion

I only pity those kids where their parents converted them without their knowledge / agreement and hope they can change to their desire religion

But for those who willingly sign the convert papers all i can say is tai sei

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jun 25 2025, 09:39 AM)
cannot dik

u mistaken hotel california with hilton
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but nobody can stop her from eating whatever she wants laugh.gif
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curious, those getting married in thailand no need convert. can bring back?

https://www.utusan.com.my/nasional/2025/01/...in-di-thailand/

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jun 25 2025, 09:23 AM)
why she not go to other masjid minta tolong hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 08:28 AM)
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In malaysia?...no
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 25 2025, 10:06 AM)
but nobody can stop her from eating whatever she wants laugh.gif
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her IC if sudah stamped liligion?
If sudah...her whole life sudah kena ikat.


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next time pikir betul sebelum check in hotel california
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jun 25 2025, 10:13 AM)
her IC if sudah stamped liligion?
If sudah...her whole life sudah kena ikat.
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nope
on surface it is
u don't need to show your IC to buy cloth or go eat
your IC also don't dictate where you can go

you don't need to show your IC to enter any restaurant and you can eat whatever u want

i know a guy that marries an awek, celebrate hari raya but drink tiger during hari raya open house doh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Jun 25 2025, 10:04 AM)
If you choose a partner and plan to marry but have to convert to your partner religion, you better think twice

No 1 force you to sign the convert papers and once you sign dont kpkb later say cannot change religion

I only pity those kids where their parents converted them without their knowledge / agreement and hope they can change to their desire religion

But for those who willingly sign the convert papers all i can say is tai sei
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It is unrealistic to be logical when in love.
If whole world thinks like you there won't be any divorce liao.
Or no such thing as Polyandry or polygamy or mistresses....
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 09:28 AM)
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Hotel California in West Malaysia
Hotel Hilton in East Malaysia
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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Jun 25 2025, 11:04 AM)
If you choose a partner and plan to marry but have to convert to your partner religion, you better think twice

No 1 force you to sign the convert papers and once you sign dont kpkb later say cannot change religion

I only pity those kids where their parents converted them without their knowledge / agreement and hope they can change to their desire religion

But for those who willingly sign the convert papers all i can say is tai sei
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Only in Malaysia
In Indonesia you can change your religion legally
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jun 25 2025, 10:18 AM)
Only in Malaysia
In Indonesia you can change your religion legally
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Yup is true, imagine awek with Christian religion
.. Malaysia boleh cam ni ke
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QUOTE(nuvi @ Jun 25 2025, 09:10 AM)
Maybe she believes the guy really love her, won't leave her, sincere and responsible guy.
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A non-Muslim man also may leave his partner, but at least the woman isn't stuck in Hotel California.
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QUOTE(HasukiiXrd @ Jun 25 2025, 11:20 AM)
Yup is true, imagine awek with Christian religion
.. Malaysia boleh cam ni ke
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I know one awek Indon legally Muslim
But live like a non Muslim queen

Has a dog, nen nen show, drinking, eating pork


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QUOTE(Taikor.Taikun @ Jun 25 2025, 08:29 AM)
Dont simply convert. Get out of it while still can
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QUOTE(Ukeke @ Jun 25 2025, 09:28 AM)
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Very difficult as you need to go to Sharia court

I think there were a few cases where they tried to go civil court but failed

If you go Sharia court, they won't let you go unless you go through a lot of hassle

Most people just give up and just leave Malaysia
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so what i know is.... the zakat is denied ?
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QUOTE(SuperTuhan @ Jun 25 2025, 08:40 AM)
In the video she mention she went for masjid n zakat for  help but they assumed her as scammer and kick her away

Then she went to church for help

I think she did not go thru the right channel or proper way for help
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oh found my answer
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:33 AM)
Topkek

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Ala...Jestina Kuan ok je...
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itu T5 kayangan level sure la..

you T5 red sofa also no issue ler, jibby son drinking ribena also no issue


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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jun 25 2025, 08:33 AM)
Topkek

ADD-ON:

Ala...Jestina Kuan ok je...
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she already masuk meh?
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Nothing can stop you from renouncing the religion. It is as easy as stating syahadah but the problem is the paperwork. It is because probably no one dare to sign the paper. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 25 2025, 10:32 AM)
itu T5 kayangan level sure la..

you T5 red sofa also no issue ler, jibby son drinking ribena also no issue
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true also..

QUOTE(11c @ Jun 25 2025, 10:32 AM)
she already masuk meh?
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no, she is born Muslim.
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Tu lah, cari lelaki tu cari lah yg elok. Yg perangai Macam Ukeke tu ketepikan. Also is she yatim piatu with no family? What about her own family members? Tak tolong ke?
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my sister is 1 of em...not sure she ragrat or not,but it surelly is troublesome when u get a chinese bf next etc
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jun 25 2025, 10:15 AM)
Hotel California in West Malaysia
Hotel Hilton in East Malaysia
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Sungau sarawak Hilton nice. Can see the yellow river. What'sapp Hilton less than 30 mind came bring additional bottles of mineral water edi
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Jun 25 2025, 10:25 AM)
I know one awek Indon legally Muslim
But live like a non Muslim queen

Has a dog, nen nen show, drinking, eating pork
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Yeah, just here is more Axxxxic.

I have some ME Muslim friend just like what you said.
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nth to feel mercy about.. sendiri bodo sendiri convert.. this is your consequences so suck it up.. no need to go viral and let others to feel pity about u.. pandan mukak la ko sendiri bodo
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 25 2025, 09:36 AM)
this is why many girls today chose to stay single until old

and yet /k/tard also keep saying women after 30 is basi sudah laugh.gif

it has nothing to do with religion, it's more like choosing the correct partner
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Yupe this women Sui or maybe buta. My uncle married Malay woman okay only now many many cucu cicit.

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1 thing i confirm is sure that side will never help non. My family is Buddhist but there are still a church willing to help us during our hardship time regardless our religion.
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Jun 25 2025, 10:36 AM)
true also..
no, she is born Muslim.
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Cuz all secrety unloved with Fattah Amin but couldnt act on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

Yupe this women Sui or maybe buta. My uncle married Malay woman okay only now many many cucu cicit.
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if you chose the correct person, doesn't matter what religion u also would be happy
if you found yourself in a toxic relationship, always immediately leave...his usual act should be able to display that already
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I think once u convert to I in this country, you cannot convert back.

Please correct me if i wrong.
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I think once u convert to I in this country, you cannot convert back.

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This is why every woman considering marriage should never feel pressured to quit her job. Financial independence isn't just empowering, it's essential. Always have your own income, your own savings, and your own sense of security. Love should never require you to give up your autonomy. flex.gif


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1 thing i confirm is sure that side will never help non. My family is Buddhist but there are still a church willing to help us during our hardship time regardless our religion.
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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Who is the jantan tak guna? Where is HIS family?

...and which state is this, no help mualaf? Where got malay mualaf?

Never revert for love.
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Islam is not a hotel where one can simply "check into" or "check out of" at will or convenience.

Unlike a hotel, which offers a temporary stay for a fee, Islam is a foundational aspect of a person's identity and worldview.

Islam is not simply a transaction or a service to be used and discarded.

Choosing Islam as a religion involves more than just selecting a temporary accommodation. It involves a deeper commitment to beliefs, practices, and a community.



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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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HOTEL CALIFORNIAAAAAAAA
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0 chance.....

Cibai & LJ gatal .... really deserved it.
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Islam is not a hotel where one can simply "check into" or "check out of" at will or convenience.

Unlike a hotel, which offers a temporary stay for a fee, Islam is a foundational aspect of a person's identity and worldview.

Islam is not simply a transaction or a service to be used and discarded.

Choosing Islam as a religion involves more than just selecting a temporary accommodation. It involves a deeper commitment to beliefs, practices, and a community.
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Sometime you are married into it, sometime you are born into it ...it's not by choice then.
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Sometime you are married into it, sometime you are born into it ...it's not by choice then.
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Ya wei, going by his logic then a person who was born into Islam should be allowed to leave. hmm.gif

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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Any reason to just…idk…not bother about it and go on living?
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Any reason to just…idk…not bother about it and go on living?
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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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if you check into hotel california with your husband. but then divorce. can you leave hotel california?
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Sometime you are married into it, sometime you are born into it ...it's not by choice then.
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In Islam, a non-Muslim spouse is generally required to convert to Islam when marrying a Muslim, particularly in the case of a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim man, or if the couple intends to raise their children within the Muslim faith. This requirement stems from interpretations of Islamic law and tradition, which prioritize the preservation of Islamic identity within the family and community. 

The primary reason for the requirement of conversion is to ensure the preservation of Islamic identity within the family, particularly for the children. 

In cases where a non-Muslim spouse does not convert, the marriage may be deemed invalid by Islamic law, and the couple may face social and legal challenges. 



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Children often follow their parents' religion due to early exposure, strong family bonds, and the influence of parental guidance. 

Parents often see their religion as a source of meaning, values, and community, and they want to share these benefits with their children. Additionally, children naturally tend to imitate their parents' behaviors and beliefs, especially during formative years. 

Children spend a significant amount of time with their parents, especially during their early, formative years. This constant exposure to religious practices, beliefs, and values can lead to their adoption as a natural part of the child's life. 

Parents often actively guide their children in religious matters, teaching them about their faith, taking them to religious services, and discussing religious principles. This intentional guidance can strongly influence a child's religious identity. 

Many parents believe that passing on their faith is a crucial responsibility and a valuable gift to their children. They may see their religion as a source of strength, guidance, and meaning, and they want their children to benefit from it as well. 

Religion often plays a significant role in family and community identity. Parents may want their children to feel connected to their cultural heritage and community through shared religious beliefs. 
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Children often follow their parents' religion due to early exposure, strong family bonds, and the influence of parental guidance. 

Parents often see their religion as a source of meaning, values, and community, and they want to share these benefits with their children. Additionally, children naturally tend to imitate their parents' behaviors and beliefs, especially during formative years. 

Children spend a significant amount of time with their parents, especially during their early, formative years. This constant exposure to religious practices, beliefs, and values can lead to their adoption as a natural part of the child's life. 

Parents often actively guide their children in religious matters, teaching them about their faith, taking them to religious services, and discussing religious principles. This intentional guidance can strongly influence a child's religious identity. 

Many parents believe that passing on their faith is a crucial responsibility and a valuable gift to their children. They may see their religion as a source of strength, guidance, and meaning, and they want their children to benefit from it as well. 

Religion often plays a significant role in family and community identity. Parents may want their children to feel connected to their cultural heritage and community through shared religious beliefs. 
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Islamic law is diverse and evolving, the Quran permits interfaith marriage in some cases, faith should not be forced, religious identity isn't so fragile that it requires control, and many restrictions stem from culture or social pressure. Not divine command.
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QUOTE(agility @ Jun 25 2025, 01:58 PM)
Islamic law is diverse and evolving, the Quran permits interfaith marriage in some cases, faith should not be forced, religious identity isn't so fragile that it requires control, and many restrictions stem from culture or social pressure. Not divine command.
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I fed his post to chatgpt to see if it's written by AI.

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Final Assessment
Likelihood: Leaning toward AI-written
Confidence: ~80%

This passage likely comes from an AI or is heavily edited by one. The even tone, structured redundancy, and generic phrasing are all strong signals. A human might write something similar — especially in a formal setting — but would more likely include a personal example, a stronger opinion, or more varied sentence structure.

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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Islam is not a hotel where one can simply "check into" or "check out of" at will or convenience.

Unlike a hotel, which offers a temporary stay for a fee, Islam is a foundational aspect of a person's identity and worldview.

Islam is not simply a transaction or a service to be used and discarded.

Choosing Islam as a religion involves more than just selecting a temporary accommodation. It involves a deeper commitment to beliefs, practices, and a community.
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Tell this to the Islamic authorities, who like to convert any willing Tom, Dick & Harry simply to bulk up the numbers & show a good statistic, without consideration of the converts mentality & seriousness.

In Christian baptism & Hindu spiritual initiation, you gotta prove your sincerity by certain practices, understanding & tests.

Otherwise will end up like Loh Siew Hong's ex husband cretin.
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I fed his post to chatgpt to see if it's written by AI.
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Ya wei, going by his logic then a person who was born into Islam should be allowed to leave. hmm.gif
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Many countries with Islamic law have laws against apostasy, often with penalties ranging from fines to imprisonment or even death, though the application of the death penalty is rare. 

In Malaysia, for example, while the concept of apostasy is recognized, legal processes and penalties vary by state. Some states allow Muslims to leave Islam after a Sharia court process involving counseling and repentance attempts, while others impose stricter penalties like jail time or caning. 

Even if legal avenues for leaving Islam exist, the process can be lengthy, complex, and emotionally challenging, as it often involves interactions with religious authorities and potential social stigma. 

FYI, my dear, the Quran does not explicitly prescribe the death penalty for apostasy, although some interpretations of Islamic texts and traditions do.

The Quran verse "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256) is often cited in discussions about freedom of belief and the right to choose one's religion. 

While leaving Islam may be legally restricted and socially discouraged in some countries, there can also be avenues for individuals to renounce their faith, often involving legal and religious procedures. The interpretation of religious texts and the application of laws regarding apostasy vary widely across different Islamic contexts. 

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 25 2025, 02:04 PM)
Tell this to the Islamic authorities, who like to convert any willing Tom, Dick & Harry simply to bulk up the numbers & show a good statistic, without consideration of the converts mentality & seriousness.

In Christian baptism & Hindu spiritual initiation, you gotta prove your sincerity by certain practices, understanding & tests.

Otherwise will end up like Loh Siew Hong's ex husband cretin.
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Raj, my dear

Malaysia's legal system on apostasy, primarily within the purview of state Sharia courts. While apostasy isn't explicitly criminalized at the federal level, some states have enacted laws that penalize Muslims who renounce their faith. These penalties can include fines, imprisonment, and mandatory "rehabilitation" programs aimed at bringing the individual back to Islam. 

Article 74(2) of the Malaysian Federal Constitution grants states the power to legislate on matters of Islamic law, including offenses against the precepts of Islam. 

Several states, such as Perak, Pahang, Kelantan, Terengganu, Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, and Sabah, have enacted laws that criminalize apostasy. 

Penalties for apostasy can vary by state, but may include fines, jail time, and mandatory participation in rehabilitation programs. 

My dear, Malaysia is a signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which protects the right to freedom of religion. However, the application of this right, particularly for Muslims seeking to leave Islam, is subject to the Sharia laws of individual states.
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My dear Etan,

In Islam, a non-Muslim spouse is generally required to convert to Islam when marrying a Muslim, particularly in the case of a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim man, or if the couple intends to raise their children within the Muslim faith. This requirement stems from interpretations of Islamic law and tradition, which prioritize the preservation of Islamic identity within the family and community. 

The primary reason for the requirement of conversion is to ensure the preservation of Islamic identity within the family, particularly for the children. 

In cases where a non-Muslim spouse does not convert, the marriage may be deemed invalid by Islamic law, and the couple may face social and legal challenges. 
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What choices are there but compulsion ... right?

Yours are the ONE ..... LOL
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Raj, my dear

Malaysia's legal system on apostasy, primarily within the purview of state Sharia courts. While apostasy isn't explicitly criminalized at the federal level, some states have enacted laws that penalize Muslims who renounce their faith. These penalties can include fines, imprisonment, and mandatory "rehabilitation" programs aimed at bringing the individual back to Islam. 

Article 74(2) of the Malaysian Federal Constitution grants states the power to legislate on matters of Islamic law, including offenses against the precepts of Islam. 

Several states, such as Perak, Pahang, Kelantan, Terengganu, Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, and Sabah, have enacted laws that criminalize apostasy. 

Penalties for apostasy can vary by state, but may include fines, jail time, and mandatory participation in rehabilitation programs. 

My dear, Malaysia is a signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which protects the right to freedom of religion. However, the application of this right, particularly for Muslims seeking to leave Islam, is subject to the Sharia laws of individual states.
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You are not exactly adressing the issue.

1) The context is about the apostacy of a Muslim convert, not one born as one.

2) If the authorities did a proper background check before admitting somebody into the faith, they'd have less problems with apostacy later.

Anyway clueless people who choose to convert have themselves to blame too.







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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Jun 25 2025, 02:49 PM)
You are not exactly adressing the issue.

1) The context is about the apostacy of a Muslim convert, not one born as one.

2) If the authorities did a proper background check before admitting somebody into the faith, they'd have less problems with apostacy later.

Anyway clueless people who choose to convert have themselves to blame too.
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My dear Raj,

To be exact, a Muslim convert's ability to revert to their original religion can face significant challenges due to both religious interpretations and socio-cultural factors.

It's important to note that there are varying interpretations among Islamic scholars regarding the punishment for apostasy.

Some argue that the punishment is reserved for the afterlife, not in this world, and that the Quran emphasizes freedom of religion.

Some scholars argue that the hadith concerning punishment for apostasy relate to treason or rebellion against the state, rather than a mere change in personal belief. 

Converting to Islam can sometimes lead to intense social and familial pressure if someone later decides to leave. Abandoning Islam can be seen as abandoning family and tradition, leading to ostracization, threats, and even violence in some cases.

In some Muslim-majority societies, where Islam is deeply intertwined with all aspects of life (law, culture, etc.), leaving the religion can be perceived as a major transgression with severe consequences.

There are laws prohibit conversion from Islam and may impose penalties like imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of inheritance, or even the death penalty.

While the Quran is cited as containing verses supporting religious freedom, the classical interpretation of apostasy in Islamic law and the resulting social and legal consequences can make it very difficult for a Muslim convert to revert to their previous religion.

The threat of punishment, including the death penalty in some regions, combined with social ostracization and legal repercussions, serve as powerful deterrents.
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My dear Raj,

To be exact, a Muslim convert's ability to revert to their original religion can face significant challenges due to both religious interpretations and socio-cultural factors.

It's important to note that there are varying interpretations among Islamic scholars regarding the punishment for apostasy.

Some argue that the punishment is reserved for the afterlife, not in this world, and that the Quran emphasizes freedom of religion.

Some scholars argue that the hadith concerning punishment for apostasy relate to treason or rebellion against the state, rather than a mere change in personal belief. 

Converting to Islam can sometimes lead to intense social and familial pressure if someone later decides to leave. Abandoning Islam can be seen as abandoning family and tradition, leading to ostracization, threats, and even violence in some cases.

In some Muslim-majority societies, where Islam is deeply intertwined with all aspects of life (law, culture, etc.), leaving the religion can be perceived as a major transgression with severe consequences.

There are laws prohibit conversion from Islam and may impose penalties like imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of inheritance, or even the death penalty.

While the Quran is cited as containing verses supporting religious freedom, the classical interpretation of apostasy in Islamic law and the resulting social and legal consequences can make it very difficult for a Muslim convert to revert to their previous religion.

The threat of punishment, including the death penalty in some regions, combined with social ostracization and legal repercussions, serve as powerful deterrents.
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And that is why it grew in the past. But now in the internet age, the believers are beginning to leave left & right after having known the truth.

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Banyak tuan tuan puan puan tan sri dato atuk pun ada minum, tak ada orang peduli kerana itu kehidupan dia. Jangan minum di depan semua orang, ok!

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Conversion is a matter of personal belief, my dear.

Therefore, it is not the responsibility of Islamic authorities to conduct background checks on individuals before they convert to Islam.

The core requirement for converting to Islam is a sincere belief in the core tenets of the faith and the recitation of the Shahada (declaration of faith).

Islam emphasizes the internal state of a person's faith and the sincerity of their conversion.

To be exactly noted that there is no requirement within the Islamic law for an individual's background to be checked before converting. Conversion is primarily about personal belief and the declaration of faith.
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actually just retard for keeping the religion if already divorce. imma eating pork still no one will ask for ic.
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actually just retard for keeping the religion if already divorce. imma eating pork still no one will ask for ic.
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And that is why it grew in the past. But now in the internet age, the believers are beginning to leave left & right after having known the truth.
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My dear Raj,

The truth is why should one leave Islam after understanding Islam?

Leaving Islam is considered a grave offense against God, and those who do so and die in a state of disbelief risk eternal punishment in Hellfire.

The Quran indicates that if someone leaves Islam and dies in unbelief, their good deeds in this life and the hereafter become worthless. 

In historical contexts, apostasy was often viewed as a form of political secession or rebellion against the Muslim community or state, particularly when coupled with actions that undermined or threatened the Muslim community. Some scholars argue that the historical punishments attributed to apostasy were primarily aimed at those who engaged in treasonous behavior rather than simply changing their belief.

Furthermore, some see the punishment for apostasy as a measure to protect the integrity and stability of the Muslim community and state, especially in historical contexts where religious identity was closely intertwined with political and social order.

Leaving Islam could be seen as weakening the social fabric of Muslim society, which is built on the foundation of Islamic faith.





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So......3 times strike you out gameplay

Next time when you kena batang hidung sendiri, don't blame others but ownself coz you didn't make it 3 times 1st.
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what 3 times strike?
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Ya wei, going by his logic then a person who was born into Islam should be allowed to leave. hmm.gif
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His posts are quite interesting. Sounds legit but lots of contradictions also
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2) If the authorities did a proper background check before admitting somebody into the faith, they'd have less problems with apostacy later.
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No authority should control in or out of a religion.

Religion should be between one and one's beliefs.
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technically, yes.. but in reality, that is another story..
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My dear Raj,

The truth is why should one leave Islam after understanding Islam?

Leaving Islam is considered a grave offense against God, and those who do so and die in a state of disbelief risk eternal punishment in Hellfire.

The Quran indicates that if someone leaves Islam and dies in unbelief, their good deeds in this life and the hereafter become worthless. 

In historical contexts, apostasy was often viewed as a form of political secession or rebellion against the Muslim community or state, particularly when coupled with actions that undermined or threatened the Muslim community. Some scholars argue that the historical punishments attributed to apostasy were primarily aimed at those who engaged in treasonous behavior rather than simply changing their belief.

Furthermore, some see the punishment for apostasy as a measure to protect the integrity and stability of the Muslim community and state, especially in historical contexts where religious identity was closely intertwined with political and social order.

Leaving Islam could be seen as weakening the social fabric of Muslim society, which is built on the foundation of Islamic faith.
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Oh how ironic. People are leaving after actually understanding their religion. And it is only getting more rampant in the internet age. Because it is getting extremely difficult to keep the taqiyya going on & the lies are getting exposed on an accelerated scale. 🙂



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More problem --> if the bastard husband come back and claim.

She seems sound like not a Malaysian.
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It's important to note that there are varying interpretations among Islamic scholars regarding the punishment for apostasy.

Some argue that the punishment is reserved for the afterlife, not in this world, and that the Quran emphasizes freedom of religion.

Some scholars argue that the hadith concerning punishment for apostasy relate to treason or rebellion against the state, rather than a mere change in personal belief. 

Converting to Islam can sometimes lead to intense social and familial pressure if someone later decides to leave. Abandoning Islam can be seen as abandoning family and tradition, leading to ostracization, threats, and even violence in some cases.

There are laws prohibit conversion from Islam and may impose penalties like imprisonment, annulment of marriage, loss of inheritance, or even the death penalty.
In summary, a religion of peace where punishments are based on "I feel" thumbup.gif
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Calling out compulsion in religion is butthurt? 🤪
The true butthurters are the ones denying pipul to apostasize. 🤣

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Oh how ironic. People are leaving after actually understanding their religion. And it is only getting more rampant in the internet age. Because it is getting extremely difficult to keep the taqiyya going on & the lies are getting exposed on an accelerated scale. 🙂


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Raj, my dear

Muslims who understand the truth of Islam will never leave.

1. Islam's core principle of tawhid (the oneness of God) resonates with many who seek a direct and personal relationship with the divine, free from intermediaries or complex theological doctrines.
2. The simplicity and clarity of Islamic beliefs, particularly concerning God's attributes and human responsibility, appeal to those seeking a straightforward understanding of faith. 
3. Islam's emphasis on ethical conduct, compassion, and social responsibility attracts individuals seeking a moral compass and a framework for positive social impact.
4. The teachings on charity, justice, and helping the less fortunate resonate with those who value social justice and community well-being. 
5. The global Muslim community (ummah) provides a sense of belonging and shared identity, offering support and connection in a diverse world.
6. Local Muslim communities often offer welcoming environments and opportunities for social interaction, which can be particularly appealing to those seeking a sense of belonging. 
7. The intellectual depth of Islamic scholarship and the emphasis on seeking knowledge can be appealing to those who value learning and intellectual exploration.
8. Islam are multifaceted and often involve a combination of intellectual, spiritual, and social factors. 
9. Islam's emphasis on community, social justice, and personal growth. 
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In summary, a religion of peace where punishments are based on "I feel"  thumbup.gif
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In Islam, punishments are not based solely on "I feel." They come from sources like the Quran and Sunnah, which are the teachings and practices of Prophet Muhammad.

Islamic law, or Sharia, comes from the Quran (believed to be the word of God) and the Sunnah (the Prophet's example). These sources offer guidance on justice and other aspects of life, including punishments.

Islam emphasizes justice, requiring fairness in judgments and punishments.

Certain crimes (Hudud) have specific punishments in the Quran. The requirements for carrying out these punishments have historically been strict, focusing on prevention.

Qualified scholars (Ulama) interpret and apply these sources. Different schools of Islamic jurisprudence have different interpretations.

Islamic teachings encourage benevolence (ihsan) and forgiveness, balancing justice with compassion. It is acceptable to not punish a crime, even if the law allows it. 

Therefore, while feelings about justice are important in Islam, they do not solely determine punishments. Rather, Islamic law relies on scriptural guidance and the understanding of Islamic scholars, seeking justice and upholding the faith. 
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Raj, my dear

The word "Taqiyya" is derived from the Arabic root "waqa," meaning "to shield oneself". It essentially means taking precautions to safeguard oneself or others from harm. 

Taqiyya is typically employed when individuals or groups face threats, persecution, or danger due to their religious affiliation. 

Taqiyya is particularly significant in Shia Islam due to the historical persecution and political challenges faced by Shia Muslims, often from Sunni majorities. 

Taqiyya is not intended as a general license to lie or deceive. It is specifically a practice of self-preservation in the face of danger and is not universally applied in all situations. 
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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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Not like they can do anything about it even u break it
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Just go somewhere no one recognise and live the life she want.

No one gonna suddenly walk to u and ask what your religion right?

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But why cant the religion of Allah give justice to her?
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Raj, my dear

Muslims who understand the truth of Islam will never leave.

1. Islam's core principle of tawhid (the oneness of God) resonates with many who seek a direct and personal relationship with the divine, free from intermediaries or complex theological doctrines.
2. The simplicity and clarity of Islamic beliefs, particularly concerning God's attributes and human responsibility, appeal to those seeking a straightforward understanding of faith. 
3. Islam's emphasis on ethical conduct, compassion, and social responsibility attracts individuals seeking a moral compass and a framework for positive social impact.
4. The teachings on charity, justice, and helping the less fortunate resonate with those who value social justice and community well-being. 
5. The global Muslim community (ummah) provides a sense of belonging and shared identity, offering support and connection in a diverse world.
6. Local Muslim communities often offer welcoming environments and opportunities for social interaction, which can be particularly appealing to those seeking a sense of belonging. 
7. The intellectual depth of Islamic scholarship and the emphasis on seeking knowledge can be appealing to those who value learning and intellectual exploration.
8. Islam are multifaceted and often involve a combination of intellectual, spiritual, and social factors. 
9. Islam's emphasis on community, social justice, and personal growth. 
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Oh they do leave, after coming to know about these issues in their holy book.

1) The scientific miracles.
2) The nice treatment & freeing of slaves & war captives.
3) The fair distribution of war booty.
4) How to nicely treat the Pagans & people of the book.
5) The divine story of Zaid, Zainab & your prophet.
6) The wonderful story of Mariya the Copt & your prophet.
7) Their misunderstanding of seemingly self contradictions & contradictions with other scriptures.
8) The validation of the Bible & Torah in their holy book.
9) The setting place of the sun.
10) That God prays for the prophet.

These are just a small sample of topics that they have misunderstood & left the faith. And the most grossly misunderstood verse is 9:5, the verse of peace. 🙃

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Curious question, if u convert, after divorced can u convert back to previous religion?
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need to go through lengthy legal process :X and at the end, the shariah court may still over turn the court decision :X
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Raj, my dear

The word "Taqiyya" is derived from the Arabic root "waqa," meaning "to shield oneself". It essentially means taking precautions to safeguard oneself or others from harm. 

Taqiyya is typically employed when individuals or groups face threats, persecution, or danger due to their religious affiliation. 

Taqiyya is particularly significant in Shia Islam due to the historical persecution and political challenges faced by Shia Muslims, often from Sunni majorities. 

Taqiyya is not intended as a general license to lie or deceive. It is specifically a practice of self-preservation in the face of danger and is not universally applied in all situations. 
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Errr bro
Next time, tengok dulu apa chatgpt output sebelum post.
Your reply implies Sunni are the bad guys.
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But why cant the religion of Allah give justice to her?
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It is common for individuals to convert to Islam for marriage, the validity of such conversion is questioned when done solely for the purpose of marriage without a genuine change of heart and faith. 

Islam emphasizes that belief and faith are a deeply personal matter between the individual and God. It's about genuine acceptance of the tenets of Islam in one's heart and mind.

A person who claims to be a Muslim but does not truly believe is considered a hypocrite (Munafiq). Such a person may not be evaluated as a true Muslim in the eyes of God.

Ultimately, it is only God who knows what is truly in a person's heart and whether their conversion is sincere. 
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Oh they do leave, after coming to know about these issues in their holy book.

1) The scientific miracles.
2) The nice treatment & freeing of slaves & war captives.
3) The fair distribution of war booty.
4) How to nicely treat the Pagans & people of the book.
5) The divine story of Zaid, Zainab & your prophet.
6) The wonderful story of Mariya the Copt & your prophet.
7) Their misunderstanding of seemingly self contradictions & contradictions with other scriptures.
8) The validation of the Bible & Torah in their holy book.
9) The setting place of the sun.
10) That God prays for the prophet.

These are just a small sample of  topics that they have misunderstood & left the faith. And the most grossly misunderstood verse is 9:5, the verse of peace. 🙃
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Raj, my dear

Muslims who understand the truth about Islam will never leave because

1. They trust in God's promises. This trust provides them the strength, hope, and guidance, motivating them to strive for righteousness.
2. The Quran is filled with verses that serve as divine promises, assuring believers of Allah's support, forgiveness, and rewards. 
3. The Quran also highlights historical instances where Allah's promises were fulfilled, strengthening the believers' faith in His word. 
4. The trust in God's promises helps believers endure hardships, knowing that ease and relief are promised by Him.
5. The certainty of reward motivates Muslims to live according to Islamic teachings and strive for excellence in their actions and worship.
6. The assurance of forgiveness and mercy offers comfort to those who repent, reminding them of God's infinite compassion. 
7. They believe that relying on God is a crucial aspect of their faith.
8. They trust God will take care of their affairs, even when facing difficulties.
9. Tawakkul is seen as a way to find peace and contentment, knowing that God is ultimately in control. 

So, why do they want to leave because they know God will never lie.

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Errr bro
Next time, tengok dulu apa chatgpt output sebelum post.   
Your reply implies Sunni are the bad guys.
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In Islam, the concept of "bad guys" is understood through the framework of good and evil, with a focus on the influence of Satan (Shaytan) and the importance of resisting temptation and doing good. Islam teaches that everyone is susceptible to evil, but also has the capacity for good, guided by divine will and moral responsibility.
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Ultimately, it is only God who knows what is truly in a person's heart and whether their conversion is sincere. 
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Then under the eyes of Allah Maha Isa, why did you say Islam is open to subjective interpretation in deciding whether the lady victim's conversation is valid but then in above response, you said only God knows what is sincere? How can you or other humans decide her will to stay/run away from Islam?
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Then under the eyes of Allah Maha Isa, why did you say Islam is open to subjective interpretation in deciding whether the lady victim's conversation is valid but then in above response, you said only God knows what is sincere? How can you or other humans decide her will to stay/run away from Islam?
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My dear,

Many countries with Islamic law have laws against apostasy.
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9. Islam's emphasis on community, social justice, and personal growth. 
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We don't even have equal social justice in Malaysia. "One rule for thee, but not for me".
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In Islam, the concept of "bad guys" is understood through the framework of good and evil, with a focus on the influence of Satan (Shaytan) and the importance of resisting temptation and doing good. Islam teaches that everyone is susceptible to evil, but also has the capacity for good, guided by divine will and moral responsibility.
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My dear,

Many countries with Islamic law have laws against apostasy.
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Again, countries/uztazs are all humans. Nobody has the right to judge except Allah. Only Allah can decide anything on apostasy.

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need to go through lengthy legal process :X and at the end, the shariah court may still over turn the court decision :X
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shariah court can overturn civil court decisions? I thought all these while civil court is higher level than shariah court in Malaysia?
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don't know why religion also wants to force people, it should bea personal matter and based on personal belief, no one should be forced to believe something they don't want to.
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This is why every woman considering marriage should never feel pressured to quit her job. Financial independence isn't just empowering, it's essential. Always have your own income, your own savings, and your own sense of security. Love should never require you to give up your autonomy. flex.gif


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i think this girl also got problem, why must choose type M? no other choice? Think can enjoy life after marriage?
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The only solution is the 14th floor.

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Very mafan. I have a friend did that
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don't simple convert to any religion in the name of marriage, definitely will be lost & confuse if the soul mate deceased..
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What problem also 14th floor, why don't you follow what you preach?
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This woman definitely didn't have any religion before masuk Islam. For her, religion is not important (which is typical for most type C).

Deswai simply masuk just becos kahwin. Now surprised pikachu.

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This woman definitely didn't have any religion before masuk Islam. For her, religion is not important (which is typical for most type C).

Deswai simply masuk just becos kahwin. Now surprised pikachu.
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typical for type c? that's a major claim and biased view with nothing to back it up, also reeks of racism and religious elitism.

Beliefs should be the more correct term to use, a person can be agnostic, believing in a superior power/powers without putting themself into any specific religious construct.
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typical for type c? that's a major claim and biased view with nothing to back it up, also reeks of racism and religious elitism.

Beliefs should be the more correct term to use, a person can be agnostic, believing in a superior power/powers without putting themself into any specific religious construct.
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Lulz, I know sure got those come plotek. But alas, I also know my kind.... dry.gif

Look at Tanah Besar. Komunis rite?

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We don't even have equal social justice in Malaysia. "One rule for thee, but not for me".
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Many i see not happy with religion but they no choice. 😅 wtf
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After divorce you are still Muslim and forever
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Again, countries/uztazs are all humans. Nobody has the right to judge except Allah. Only Allah can decide anything on apostasy.
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Well, had personal experience with a used-to-be-hot cousin sister that grew up with Catholic beliefs. Back then would question how she can get hitched to this married chad.

Dude keep promising to divorce and wed her - but to do so she must convert to Islam. She did, and when grandma knew the tears ran down non stop, and that was also one of her deep regret she carry to her deathbed - as she is a staunch Catholic practitioner.

Not even weeks after her conversion, she got dumped, and she tried to reverse her conversion which is to no avail. Reason given? No court ruling, hotel california, bla bla bla... now over 10 years passed and she had yet to officially renounce her faith.

Now she's dating an Indian national expat (another red flag for sure) and plans to leave the country for good.


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shariah court can overturn civil court decisions? I thought all these while civil court is higher level than shariah court in Malaysia?
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that's why is a lengthy process, there are a few cases in the news, always need to appeal appeal,
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Again, countries/uztazs are all humans. Nobody has the right to judge except Allah. Only Allah can decide anything on apostasy.
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Your statement reflects a common theological perspective within some interpretations of Islam, where belief is a personal matter between an individual and God, and judgment is reserved for the divine realm. This view aligns with the concept of "no compulsion in religion" found in the Quran. 

However, it's important to note that interpretations of Islamic law (Sharia) regarding apostasy (leaving Islam) vary significantly. While some hold the view you expressed, others believe that apostasy is a crime with prescribed punishments, which can include imprisonment or even death, in some countries. 

The application of apostasy laws and their severity also differ greatly between countries. Some countries have specific laws punishing apostasy, while others have no such laws and follow a more secular legal system. This disparity reflects the diverse interpretations and implementations of religious law in different contexts. 
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101% agree!

I think is because 90% of Malaysian are Max Idiot!
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101% agree!

I think is because 90% of Malaysian are Max Idiot!
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My parent yes (Uneducated + Lazy to learn).

Left me + 1 sibling still in Malaysia.

All migrated already.

Malaysia 101% is beautiful country with devil politician + max idiot voter.
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post Jun 26 2025, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jun 26 2025, 10:17 AM)
Well, had personal experience with a used-to-be-hot cousin sister
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Drillz mana?!
jasonlim
post Jun 26 2025, 12:12 PM

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Convert only by own will
Never ever convert for love
keyser soze
post Jun 26 2025, 12:15 PM

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migrate to India then you can convert back.
MishimaZ
post Jun 26 2025, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 26 2025, 11:55 AM)
Drillz mana?!
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25 years ago no smartphone with superior camera to upskirt or downblouse... so no photos...

Now look like those slightly washed up 50 year old OL, huge comparison to her past.
Koranshita
post Jun 26 2025, 01:02 PM

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Convert because u wanted to not because of other people.
Stupid if convert just to get married. Never think will get divorce one-day what to do before that?
ruffy_z
post Jun 26 2025, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(neutronproton @ Jun 26 2025, 01:21 AM)
i think this girl also got problem, why must choose type M? no other choice? Think can enjoy life after marriage?
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Getting rarer la these days. Better marry within one own race, less problem later on
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post Jun 26 2025, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(St0rmFury @ Jun 25 2025, 04:26 PM)
Yea, but when you mampus your family is going to have lots of drama.
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anyone mampus also got drama. you think pray 5 times daily will reduce the drama? come on we are human, there are definitely drama here and there. if not we already become vegetable.
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post Jun 26 2025, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(w19 @ Jun 26 2025, 10:56 AM)

Congratulations. I forsee Msia to turn into Indon, where females become prostitutes and males become labourers after no more tongkat
GalaxyV
post Jul 14 2025, 12:20 PM

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can she be converted back?
DValentine
post Jul 14 2025, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Jul 14 2025, 12:20 PM)
can she be converted back?
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jangan tanya soalan bodo can???

one way tix
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post Jul 14 2025, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jul 14 2025, 02:32 PM)
jangan tanya soalan bodo can???

one way tix
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someone has answered me and i diam shj

 

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