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post Jul 20 2025, 03:42 PM

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Personally think Nothing should stick to the 3a/3aPro price segment. They do well there in terms of price:spec:styling:software balance. Trying to compete in the higher end and they will lose out in one form or another in the eyes of spec people.

I do like their software — if my router and wireshark logs from testing a friend’s 3a Pro are anything to go by, Nothing OS is a lot better than most Android makers in terms of privacy* (excluding all the phoning home done by Google services, obviously) — and their security update promises seem to be in line with most competitors, but they are definitely not ready for the upper end of the market yet.

Currently searching for a replacement ‘dirty’ daily device (anything with Meta and Google apps installed is considered dirty in my book), and since a Pixel with GrapheneOS has too many unknowns in terms of banking or insurance app compatibility (also because Pixel hardware reliability is a bit crap in my experience), I’m looking for the next best thing. If I go with Nothing, it will probably be a 3a or 3a Pro. Won’t even bother with this so called ‘flagship’ model.

*although that Nothing Chats security fiasco still leaves me a bit suspicious of them

This post has been edited by dev/numb: Jul 20 2025, 08:54 PM
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post Aug 4 2025, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 3 2025, 11:46 PM)
I was contemplating to get 3A Pro specifically because of it's 6x optical zoom but the CPU is slightly slower than my current 3 years old phone and it also cannot record 4k60fps. Only 3 major OS upgrade also a downer. Phone 3 double the CPU performance so hopefully can use for 5 years.
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I’m considering the regular 3a. Looks better, imho (especially the blue or white). Cameras aren’t important to me. Only use em for document scanning and QR codes most of the time. OS updates aren’t a concern for me since Nothing still promises 6yrs of security updates. Heck, with Google trying to shove Gemini down our throats, I would actually prefer to stay on Android 15 and just receive the security updates. Not that I see myself keeping a phone that long anyway. Only downside is lack of e-sim support on the 3a. Lack of Nothing service centres is also a concern, but the phone is cheap so not much of a loss if need to buang a year down the line.

QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 4 2025, 08:36 AM)
Never liked Xiaomi and Honor OS. Samsung look just too generic.
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For me their hardware is okay. It’s the software I hate. So much bloatware. China brands in particular are a joke. A friend once came over with his kid who had a Poco and asked to join my wifi, and later my router firewall logs showed all sorts of sketchy links the Poco was trying to phone home to. Only way to clean up a China phone is to root and flash, but then you will struggle with banking and finance apps. At least with NothingOS, it’s pretty much stock Android with some skinning. I can easily debloat and harden using Shizuku and Canta without having to unlock bootloader.

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post Aug 4 2025, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Aug 4 2025, 05:40 PM)
If i'm buying (3) or 3a Pro from shopee, can i rest assure eSim is included? Saw some article said nothing phone on some region dint included eSim
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Fyi, there is a dedicated Nothing 3a Series thread here;
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5507682

As for Shopee, check the product description to confirm it’s a Malaysia set. If the seller is reliable, you can open a chat with them and ask them to check for you. Afaik for the (3) all region models have e-sim support. 3a Pro not sure. I think some regions sell a cheaper 8/128GB model that doesn’t have e-sim. Malaysia only gets the 12/256GB model, so if it’s listed as Malaysia set confirm have. For regular 3a only Japan market gets e-sim.
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post Aug 6 2025, 06:44 PM

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Can you guys running latest Nothing OS share your experience with the Private Space? So far I’ve read a lot of conflicting info, mainly because all those posting on reddit or nothing forums are not knowledgeable.

What I want to know is if Nothing’s Private Space is the same as Android’s Privacy Space?

Normally for regular Android 15 (eg: stock Pixel) when you setup Privacy Space it will ask you for an alternative google account or offer to create a new one for you. Once created you will see a separate Play Store and some other Google apps inside that Privacy Space. You cannot move them out of that space.

Is Nothing’s Private Space the same or different? Because if there’s no separate account required and you can move/clone apps then it is more like Samseng Knox and totally different.

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post Aug 8 2025, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Aug 6 2025, 09:36 PM)
I created the private space but didn't really use everything. I added some apps into it, the apps now will not show on the normal drawer. In the private space also can add files and photos that won't show outside the private space. Also have private camera where the taken photos will be saved into private photos.

Apps added into private space will still be same app with same logged in account as before, just now it is hidden from outside. In the private space can choose which app to open photos, either Nothing's own Gallery app or Google's photos app, with Google's Photos app it is not logged in as outside app, so you can log in with different account in there. Except for Google's Photos app, I don't see ways for other app to be cloned, it can only move from outside or in private space. Only Google Photos app have 2 instances, 1 normal outside app and another already in private space for opening photos. Google Photos at outside cannot move into private space. Play Store app cannot move into private space.

These are the info of private space that Nothing put when go to the setting
Also additional notes in the private space
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Means it’s closer to Samsung Knox. Bummer sad.gif

Android’s own Privacy Space is much more powerful since you have to create a fully separate Google account to use it and cannot move/clone apps in and out of it. If Nothing implemented Google’s version, I could, in theory, fully degoogle my main profile (remove Google Play Services also) using Shizuku + Canta*, and just silo all the “dirty” apps (like WhatsApp) into the private space and set it to remain unlocked (to receive notifications) until phone is restarted, all without needing to root.

*also plan to remove that Essential Space/Recorder function and remap the key, since I have no interest in training their AI for free. Currently studying ppq.ai and nano-gpt APIs so maybe I can remap that button to launch a script for their service to proxy my queries.

Either way, I only plan to buy after seeing what Nothing OS 4.0 offers. If they move to Android’s original privacy space, would be nice.
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post Sep 19 2025, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 16 2025, 05:27 PM)
Nothing's Essential Space is very useful, but somehow I always forgot to use it. It is useful to record something that you going to get more information/research about it later on.
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I don’t like that it sends a request to a server somewhere. If local, different story.
When Nothing OS 4 drops, can you update here if they let us remap that Essential button.
I know we can do it no, but it requires the keymap app to be running in the background at all times, which I don’t like.

 

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