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post Jun 20 2025, 08:52 PM, updated 6 months ago

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Mine now at 15km/L only..

Dunno how the range will be if ron95 naik later

Damn.. should’ve gotten a hybrid

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post Jun 20 2025, 09:00 PM

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Indonesia IDR10000/L = RM2.62

Vietnam VND23000/L = RM3.73

Dia orang pun boleh hidup.

Why Msian cannot?
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post Jun 20 2025, 09:09 PM

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Honda shitty RS ehev 1100km phul tank Sarr!
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post Jun 20 2025, 09:21 PM

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u taxi lou grab izit. else minta co subsidy laaa
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post Jun 20 2025, 09:41 PM

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Sure can. The market will normalise itself
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post Jun 20 2025, 10:04 PM

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start filling 97 from now on. biasakan diri with the pain
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post Jun 21 2025, 12:24 PM

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https://www.doublepetrol.com.my/

Non subsidized RON95 price can refer to here
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post Jun 21 2025, 12:29 PM

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If you ask

That means you can't afford a car and thus should not own a car
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post Jun 21 2025, 12:31 PM

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Hybrid

All good but still sting

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post Jun 21 2025, 03:09 PM

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My car does not have any form of fuel mileage gauge, you think?

I measure via smiles / liter so... different goal.
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post Jun 21 2025, 04:45 PM

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I can i use ehev
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post Jun 21 2025, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 20 2025, 09:00 PM)
Indonesia IDR10000/L = RM2.62

Vietnam VND23000/L = RM3.73

Dia orang pun boleh hidup.

Why Msian cannot?
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Some of malaysian too spoiled with subsidy, that's why 😏
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post Jun 21 2025, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 20 2025, 08:52 PM)
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Mine now at 15km/L only..

Dunno how the range will be if ron95 naik later

Damn.. should’ve gotten a hybrid
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The range of your car remains the same. 😂

How many KM you average per month?


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post Jun 22 2025, 12:50 PM

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Ayam paying sg petrol rm9plus for years already.. all will come to pass... Barang harga naik abit for sure..
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post Jun 22 2025, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Jun 21 2025, 07:06 PM)
Some of malaysian too spoiled with subsidy, that's why 😏
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The only solution is earn more and not whine...
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QUOTE(gld998 @ Jun 22 2025, 12:51 PM)
The only solution is earn more and not whine...
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That’s how it should be 🥸
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 20 2025, 09:00 PM)
Indonesia IDR10000/L = RM2.62

Vietnam VND23000/L = RM3.73

Dia orang pun boleh hidup.

Why Msian cannot?
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oh you're forgetting Tom Yum Girls land.

95 Ron , not gasohol , is 41.54 baths. that's RM 5.44 per litre.
unless someone pumps the Gasohol E20 then it's ฿31.04 per litre or Rm 4 per litre.

their solution to cheaper fuel? diesel. or NGV.
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Jun 21 2025, 12:24 PM)
https://www.doublepetrol.com.my/

Non subsidized RON95 price can refer to here
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If follow this price. ron 95 not that expensive..no wonder gov die die want to remove subsidy.

compare to other asean country, our ron95 still way cheaper wo.
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post Jun 24 2025, 06:19 AM

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Same, start driving sedately at highway for few times on 2.4L engine

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 23 2025, 05:25 PM)
If follow this price. ron 95 not that expensive..no wonder gov die die want to remove subsidy.

compare to other asean country, our ron95 still way cheaper wo.
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This, at least make it lesser subsidy per month, from cutting of 10sen per month to accumulate rm1.20 cut off at month 12
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 24 2025, 06:19 AM)
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Same, start driving sedately at highway for few times on 2.4L engine
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No lorry or bus tailgate u when cruise this speed?. I cruise 90-100kmh before. so many heavy vehicle tailgate me on middle lane. lol.

now cruise 110-120kmh. no more tailgate. lol.

but I salute those who been tailgate by bus and lorry and still act like nothing happen. they are so brave.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 24 2025, 08:36 AM)
No lorry or bus tailgate u when cruise this speed?. I cruise 90-100kmh before. so many heavy vehicle tailgate me on middle lane. lol.

now cruise 110-120kmh. no more tailgate. lol.

but I salute those who been tailgate by bus and lorry and still act like nothing happen. they are so brave.
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To be specific, it was from JB - Kajang last Sunday at noon time, and there were too many cars on the road, making it difficult to drive at 140 km/h in the right lane at that point. Hence, doing 100-110 km/h in the left lane is the best decision, especially combo with Singapore FM Station (their music choices are better than any English FM here).

due to many cars, lorry, and buses, the left lane are stuck with speed of 90-100kmh

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post Jun 24 2025, 09:21 AM

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Many Malaysians just do not want to admit that subsidies kills a nation. By that I mean, people have gotten so used to "current" price that any increase, they see it as uncaring.

For me, not being a high mileage driver per month, the increase will be felt during the fist few months, before I start to feel numb to it and becomes normal.

Question always comes where, what does the Gov do with the savings. Schools and hospitals as PMX said? I wish it was true. I really do.
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Drive the Savvy more often instead of the Exora for sure.
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That why i said Malaysian been pampered by subsidies for too long. LOL
When diesel subsidies removed also a lot of noise, but i agree with it and got any drastic change? If the fuel subsidies really go to the correct person why nott? I support the remove to prevent those oversea neighbour people keep taking advantage.
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post Jun 24 2025, 10:25 AM

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My take, just remove all the subsidies, remove SST and bring back GST. Welfare program for B40 who meets the criteria. Its easy on implementation rather than trying to saying, we wont penalize the majority and only T10 la t5 la, yang have to pay more!
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post Jun 24 2025, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 24 2025, 06:19 AM)
Same, start driving sedately at highway for few times on 2.4L engine
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I really envy your accord fc, my exora turbo even drive at that same relaxed speed, only gets 8L per 100km or slightly better. (around 12.6km/l)
and this with the weight slightly lighter than your accord. you and me know la, proton cfe engine drink petrol one cry.gif

even my parents Hrv 1.8L gets around 17-18km/l driving at such speed. the cvt keeps it at relaxed 2000rpm or below.
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aku isi petrok ok je. tak der la mahal. RM1.50.

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post Jun 24 2025, 10:52 AM

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boleh la
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post Jun 24 2025, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jun 24 2025, 10:38 AM)
I really envy your accord fc, my exora turbo even drive at that same relaxed speed, only gets 8L per 100km or slightly better. (around 12.6km/l)
and this with the weight slightly lighter than your accord. you and me know la, proton cfe engine drink petrol one  cry.gif

even my parents Hrv 1.8L gets around 17-18km/l driving at such speed. the cvt keeps it at relaxed 2000rpm or below.
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back in 2019-2020, drove office car, Preve CFE, yeah can confirm that CFE drank fuel almost like Alphard v6 on the highway. Drove 120-140kmh for long distance highway, sometimes 150kmh for cutting lanes, IIRC getting less than 10km/l. Not sure that was the norm for CFE or that car rarely put proper maintenance.

My car when heading 200k km (current at 240+km) the FC getting worsen, until I change the Oxygen Sensor both sides, upstream and downstream, then good FC return back. Plus, I keep using the recommended EO viscosity of 0w20 Fully Synthetic even at that mileage, no engine oil drop whatsoever.

For my other car, 1st gen Iriz 1.6L, I change and gamble to 0w20 FS oil and kinda improve the FC a bit
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Jun 21 2025, 08:24 PM)
The range of your car remains the same. 😂

How many KM you average per month?
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to and fro office daily 58km, monthly should 1160 - 1200 km
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jun 24 2025, 10:25 AM)
My take, just remove all the subsidies, remove SST and bring back GST. Welfare program for B40 who meets the criteria. Its easy on implementation rather than trying to saying, we wont penalize the majority and only T10 la t5 la, yang have to pay more!
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That's the best, and even many of well well-known economic experts, be it local or abroad, are saying the same thing, to bring VAT cz that the future, a more efficient tax function. And worst, we are among the top for black economy, hence with VAT, can cut this issue asap and major.

not sure why our PM with a Literature degree is too stubborn for making back the GST. Could be PKR/DAP backhand angger if make GST?
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 24 2025, 11:19 AM)
That's the best, and even many of well well-known economic experts, be it local or abroad, are saying the same thing, to bring VAT cz that the future, a more efficient tax function. And worst, we are among the top for black economy, hence with VAT, can cut this issue asap and major.

not sure why our PM with a Literature degree is too stubborn for making back the GST. Could be PKR/DAP backhand angger if make GST?
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its about political will ;

bring back GST means u going back to your own words

the whole gov will collapse, and DAP /PKR will be seen as useless as this is the thing they fight for back in 2018 .


if that happen, ppl will surely remember the useless parties which are DAP/PKR . no hope for them to win fed again
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 24 2025, 11:23 AM)
its about political will ;

bring back GST means u going back to your own words

the whole gov will collapse, and DAP /PKR will be seen as useless as this is the thing they fight for back in 2018 .
if that happen, ppl will surely remember the useless parties which are DAP/PKR . no hope for them to win fed again
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They should just intro VAT but implemented like GST
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My Petrol spent in a month <RM200

With this hike changed to RM300? RM100 extra per month ok lah, RM100 barely enough to dine out for my family of 5
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QUOTE(tenux73 @ Jun 24 2025, 10:44 AM)
aku isi petrok ok je. tak der la mahal. RM1.50.
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for a motorcycle isnt it ?
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 24 2025, 11:18 AM)
to and fro office daily 58km, monthly should 1160 - 1200 km
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60km x 20days = 1200km. Weekends don't drive?

Say your car 10km/liter so use 120liters monthly.

If Ron95 goes up by RM1, then its extra RM120 per month.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 24 2025, 08:36 AM)
No lorry or bus tailgate u when cruise this speed?. I cruise 90-100kmh before. so many heavy vehicle tailgate me on middle lane. lol.

now cruise 110-120kmh. no more tailgate. lol.

but I salute those who been tailgate by bus and lorry and still act like nothing happen. they are so brave.
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you should stick to left lane if thats the speed.
masih bangala pula say middle lane.
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QUOTE(McMatt @ Jun 24 2025, 09:21 AM)
Many Malaysians just do not want to admit that subsidies kills a nation. By that I mean, people have gotten so used to "current" price that any increase, they see it as uncaring.

For me, not being a high mileage driver per month, the increase will be felt during the fist few months, before I start to feel numb to it and becomes normal.

Question always comes where, what does the Gov do with the savings. Schools and hospitals as PMX said? I wish it was true. I really do.
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donation to Palestinian or Iranian nationals more likely.

else to pay for national service, etc and other wasteful projects
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jun 24 2025, 05:22 PM)
you should stick to left lane if thats the speed.
masih bangala pula say middle lane.
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which is more wrong..me stay at middle lane or those heavy vehicle tailgater who drive above speedlimit?. speedlimit for heavy vehicle is 80kmh only bro..

reason why, I dont stay at most left lane is at speed 90/100kmh, u will need to change lane like maniac as slow lorry will cruise at 50kmh..

I can tolerate if small sedan drive above speedlimit, but I cannot tolerate heavy vehicle speeding above speedlimit and cucuk cucuk people. their stopping power is very poor.

but many treat it as normal. and no wonder so many accident in malaysia, everyone want to drive fast including heavy vehicle
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QUOTE(McMatt @ Jun 24 2025, 09:21 AM)
Many Malaysians just do not want to admit that subsidies kills a nation. By that I mean, people have gotten so used to "current" price that any increase, they see it as uncaring.

For me, not being a high mileage driver per month, the increase will be felt during the fist few months, before I start to feel numb to it and becomes normal.

Question always comes where, what does the Gov do with the savings. Schools and hospitals as PMX said? I wish it was true. I really do.
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Subsidy definitely kills nation. reason why so many people drive like maniac, is due to cheap fuel. and when they speeding, they dont get police summon. then even if get police summon, police will not knock their door.

and if drive too fast and met accident, they will admit to government hospital and pay cheap when discharge. all these luxury made people taking granted. If people living in majority develop country. their gasoline price is

expensive, they need to pay summon. they need to have medical card. if they met accident and dont have medical card. their life will be fuckup. all these hardship will create society that valued live, value everything.

sometime we need to have expensive fuel, 2 point awas camera, expensive hospital bills and etc as all these will shape malaysian mentality to become more responsible.

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 24 2025, 10:54 PM)
Subsidy definitely kills nation. reason why so many people drive like maniac, is due to cheap fuel. and when they speeding, they dont get police summon. then even if get police summon, police will not knock their door.

and if drive too fast and met accident, they will admit to government hospital and pay cheap when discharge. all these luxury made people taking granted. If people living in majority develop country. their gasoline price is

expensive, they need to pay summon. they need to have medical card. if they met accident and dont have medical card. their life will be fuckup. all these hardship will create society that valued live, value everything.

sometime we need to have expensive fuel, 2 point awas camera, expensive hospital bills and etc as all these will shape malaysian mentality to become more responsible.
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Regarding on summons, most politicians don't even pay it
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 24 2025, 10:48 PM)
which is more wrong..me stay at middle lane or those heavy vehicle tailgater who drive above speedlimit?. speedlimit for heavy vehicle is 80kmh only bro..

reason why, I dont stay at most left lane is at speed 90/100kmh, u will need to change lane like maniac as slow lorry will cruise at 50kmh..

I can tolerate if small sedan drive above speedlimit, but I cannot tolerate heavy vehicle speeding above speedlimit and cucuk cucuk people. their stopping power is very poor.

but many treat it as normal. and no wonder so many accident in malaysia, everyone want to drive fast including heavy vehicle
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Another fellow who abide to law but no courtesy and common sense. I’ve seen enough heavy vehicle “tailgating” slow moving cars and those car don’t give way. Causing more trouble to lorry drivers making them make worse decision on the road. All because “I follow law. Suka hati la I drive slow in middle lane”.
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QUOTE(McMatt @ Jun 24 2025, 09:21 AM)
Many Malaysians just do not want to admit that subsidies kills a nation. By that I mean, people have gotten so used to "current" price that any increase, they see it as uncaring.

For me, not being a high mileage driver per month, the increase will be felt during the fist few months, before I start to feel numb to it and becomes normal.

Question always comes where, what does the Gov do with the savings. Schools and hospitals as PMX said? I wish it was true. I really do.
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Pay debt for sure, and give more allocation to development fund instead of managing fund. Put VAT to tackle black economy, those businesses with hanky panky parts, but what on earth this Madani scared of them

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jun 25 2025, 07:48 AM)
Another fellow who abide to law but no courtesy and common sense. I’ve seen enough heavy vehicle “tailgating” slow moving cars and those car don’t give way. Causing more trouble to lorry drivers making them make worse decision on the road. All because “I follow law. Suka hati la I drive slow in middle lane”.
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100kmh slow?. are u okey bro. courtesy and common sense?. heavy vehicle tailgate u doing 100kmh and u want to teach me about common sense. where is ur common sense in the first place bro.
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it doesnt matter no rasa.. ok je pump 97

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jun 24 2025, 10:54 PM)
their life will be fuckup.
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Pretty strong language there buddy. laugh.gif I wonder if swearing is allowed on the forum?

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Pretty strong language there buddy.  laugh.gif I wonder if swearing is allowed on the forum?
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for a motorcycle isnt it ?
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QUOTE(tenux73 @ Jun 25 2025, 11:56 AM)
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Jun 20 2025, 09:00 PM)
Indonesia IDR10000/L = RM2.62

Vietnam VND23000/L = RM3.73

Dia orang pun boleh hidup.

Why Msian cannot?
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as i remember Indon fuel price not as high as viet & pinoy , coz they re using RON92 dry.gif
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QUOTE(Jwang @ Jun 25 2025, 12:49 PM)
as i remember Indon fuel price not as high as viet & pinoy , coz they re using RON92 dry.gif
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IDR10k is RON90
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QUOTE(Jwang @ Jun 25 2025, 12:49 PM)
as i remember Indon fuel price not as high as viet & pinoy , coz they re using RON92 dry.gif
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We are lucky 2.05 per litre for ron 95, more premium then indonesia as you mentioned they're using ron 92 😐🔥
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Jul 2 2025, 07:01 PM)
We are lucky 2.05 per litre for ron 95, more premium then indonesia as you mentioned they're using ron 92 😐🔥
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Before 2010 we using Ron 92
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Jul 4 2025, 04:26 PM)
Before 2010 we using Ron 92
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 24 2025, 06:21 AM)
This, at least make it lesser subsidy per month, from cutting of 10sen per month to accumulate rm1.20 cut off at month 12
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Hawker can rise price 12 times leh
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Jul 4 2025, 04:26 PM)
Before 2010 we using Ron 92
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 20 2025, 08:52 PM)

Mine now at 15km/L only..

Dunno how the range will be if ron95 naik later

Damn.. should’ve gotten a hybrid
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The more pertinent question is can Madanpid survive the revision, now lasapzi also revolt....
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Indonesia IDR10000/L = RM2.62

Vietnam VND23000/L = RM3.73

Dia orang pun boleh hidup.

Why Msian cannot?
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nobody pays tax in indonesia. the rich keep all their money in singapore, uk, aus and the Netherlands.

my rich indonesian friends have private jets but no Indonesian credit cards to avoid tax authorities there haha
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Buy Tiggo Cross Haiburid, can drive 1000km/tank~~~ icon_idea.gif
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quite an interesting proposition.

however will see 1-2 years, how the early adopters fare in terms of warranty /etc

btw the city EHEV also same price . so quite tough to compete unless die2 want SUV

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 25 2025, 08:53 AM)
Pay debt for sure, and give more allocation to development fund instead of managing fund. Put VAT to tackle black economy, those businesses with hanky panky parts, but what on earth this Madani scared of them
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Simple = B40 group
if not done well, protest, boikots & riots can follow.
Sad to say this group of people majority are easy to be influence or sway without thinking much, thus easy to take advantage by certain political group.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jul 10 2025, 09:18 AM)
quite an interesting proposition.

however will see 1-2 years, how the early adopters fare in terms of warranty /etc

btw the city EHEV also same price . so quite tough to compete unless die2 want SUV
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city EHEV min 10k more expensive than tiggo cross and also city petrol.
hardly anyone will go for hybrid if they want to save on fuel cost because by the time you pay your loan finish, you may not even get back the 10k dif in price.
unless they die die want EHEV. not to mention the cost to replace the battery now est 8k each EHEV battery compared to 500 per 2 years push start battery change~8 years 2k only
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Mine now at 15km/L only..

Dunno how the range will be if ron95 naik later

Damn.. should’ve gotten a hybrid
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Well, even if the RON95 price would be RM10/L the range will still be 15km/L laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Angry Clerk @ Jul 10 2025, 07:57 AM)
Hawker can rise price 12 times leh
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Then ask KPDNKK to overtime then. They are always another solution
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jul 10 2025, 09:18 AM)
quite an interesting proposition.

however will see 1-2 years, how the early adopters fare in terms of warranty /etc

btw the city EHEV also same price . so quite tough to compete unless die2 want SUV
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In short ICE the best in general. PHEV most conti brand suffer from reliability issues, be it Volvo, BMW small e model, even Mercedes included. Not sure if Japanese nor China PHEV are different, but technically their technology are just similar to those European for PHEV.

Now ask EV owner, they complaint TNB bill, need to fork out 5 figures money to install the solar panel
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 10 2025, 09:47 AM)
Simple = B40 group
if not done well, protest, boikots & riots can follow.
Sad to say this group of people majority are easy to be influence or sway without thinking much, thus easy to take advantage by certain political group.
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They said they never scare to make drastic changes for a better future. But keep on pampering the B40 amazed all. Increasing the Rahmah fund, Bantuan Cash to B40 for example, does other big nation done that? I mean other nation done that but did not increase it exponentially like us from Najib to Madani now. Look at US, they give food coupon at base rates only.

So in the future, any new government will stuck with this Cash assist to B40 in order to get the power. Later PRU, Party A and B will put all sweat words to appeal the B40
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 10 2025, 12:47 PM)
They said they never scare to make drastic changes for a better future. But keep on pampering the B40 amazed all. Increasing the Rahmah fund, Bantuan Cash to B40 for example, does other big nation done that? I mean other nation done that but did not increase it exponentially like us from Najib to Madani now. Look at US, they give food coupon at base rates only.

So in the future, any new government will stuck with this Cash assist to B40 in order to get the power. Later PRU, Party A and B will put all sweat words to appeal the B40
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Yup sadly it is moving to this cash assist.
I prefer to teach them how to fish, rather than direct giving them the fish
But a lot still prefer the shortcut way. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 10 2025, 11:39 AM)
Then ask KPDNKK to overtime then. They are always another solution
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Your solution is proposed to curb frequent price hike, then you knew it couldn't be stopped, so kpdnkk need to overtime.

The opposite, hawker only one time excuse to raise prices, probably less than that 12x chance. kdnkk also can overtime. What's the difference?
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QUOTE(Angry Clerk @ Jul 11 2025, 09:15 AM)
Your solution is proposed to curb frequent price hike, then you knew it couldn't be stopped, so kpdnkk need to overtime.

The opposite, hawker only one time excuse to raise prices, probably less than that 12x chance. kdnkk also can overtime. What's the difference?
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Tbf let them, KPDNKK to sit down and think about it. They get paid for that. Example ceiling price, compliance with gazette price etc as per their website. Sure things can be done

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Take an example. A Myvi travel about 1500km monthly and average fuel cost is RM400 (this is high fuel consumption) or nearly 200 litres of fuel. If gov remove RM0.50 subsidy for RON95, mean about RM100 extra. TBH if one cannot afford to pay extra RM100 for fuel then he or she should not drive or drive less. In reality there are many times I saw people simply drive out without purpose. Or driving a 5km distance just to buy a RM5 bread from bakery shop while nearby house walking distance got speedmart.

Even if the RON95 reduce of 50% subsidy I guess most people will angry and upset for a while then back to normal.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 14 2025, 08:33 AM)
Take an example. A Myvi travel about 1500km monthly and average fuel cost is RM400 (this is high fuel consumption) or nearly 200 litres of fuel. If gov remove RM0.50 subsidy for RON95, mean about RM100 extra. TBH if one cannot afford to pay extra RM100 for fuel then he or she should not drive or drive less. In reality there are many times I saw people simply drive out without purpose. Or driving a 5km distance just to buy a RM5 bread from bakery shop while nearby house walking distance got speedmart.

Even if the RON95 reduce of 50% subsidy I guess most people will angry and upset for a while then back to normal.
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this is when we ask to take MRT, LRT, they said can't walk 400-600meter, need to drive, cz petrol + office carpark are more convenient. This is similar to many who die2 double park in front of the shop they want to go instead of parking properly, same, can't walk a bit.
And daily to KL from anywhere, majority are with single driver every time, due to the acceptable ron95 price. Try RM2.70 per liter as last time, many are taking the Komuter, buying motorcycles, and the M40 is purchasing extra small cars like Kelisa, Viva, and Kancil.


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u can pump 97 now. get used to the price
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 14 2025, 09:06 AM)
this is when we ask to take MRT, LRT, they said can't walk 400-600meter, need to drive, cz petrol + office carpark are more convenient. This is similar to many who die2 double park in front of the shop they want to go instead of parking properly, same, can't walk a bit.
And daily to KL from anywhere, majority are with single driver every time, due to the acceptable ron95 price. Try RM2.70 per liter as last time, many are taking the Komuter, buying motorcycles, and the M40 is purchasing extra small cars like Kelisa, Viva, and Kancil.
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Many people misunderstood one thing. They always blame that taking MRT, LRT and buses are less convenient and time consuming. They expect paying RM50 myrapid pass they can enjoy the public transport drop by their house and within 1 hour arrive to their 20km away office.

In reality the public transport is more time consuming just like other countries which have advance public transport also same time consuming. In their countries driving car is always more fast and convenient but very high cost, whereby in Malaysia is ultra cheap fuel price as sitting in world no. 8 cheapest fuel. Our fuel price is lower than Saudi Arabic who 2nd largest oil producer while Malaysia is no. 25. Those who keep saying Malaysia is oil producer need to sell cheap they need to correct their mindset.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 14 2025, 08:33 AM)
Take an example. A Myvi travel about 1500km monthly and average fuel cost is RM400 (this is high fuel consumption) or nearly 200 litres of fuel. If gov remove RM0.50 subsidy for RON95, mean about RM100 extra.

Even if the RON95 reduce of 50% subsidy I guess most people will angry and upset for a while then back to normal.
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Agreed.

Myvi dcvt fc town 13kml to highway 19kml if mostly town say 15kml. If monthly 1500km, then avg 100liters per month.

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Difference per liter 2.70-2.05= Rm0.65 x 100liters means
extra RM65 per month.
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lesser cars lesser traffic lesser time to reach destination!

ron95 to 5rm pls!!!! lol
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jul 14 2025, 11:26 AM)

ron95 to 5rm pls!!!! lol
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This is not /kopitiam ya 😅
FF is serious talk
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 14 2025, 10:49 AM)
Many people misunderstood one thing. They always blame that taking MRT, LRT and buses are less convenient and time consuming. They expect paying RM50 myrapid pass they can enjoy the public transport drop by their house and within 1 hour arrive to their 20km away office.

In reality the public transport is more time consuming just like other countries which have advance public transport also same time consuming. In their countries driving car is always more fast and convenient but very high cost, whereby in Malaysia is ultra cheap fuel price as sitting in world no. 8 cheapest fuel. Our fuel price is lower than Saudi Arabic who 2nd largest oil producer while Malaysia is no. 25. Those who keep saying Malaysia is oil producer need to sell cheap they need to correct their mindset.
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the completion of MRT2 Putrajaya line, the ride from Ampang park to Kajang MRT is less than 1 hour. Compared to previously needing to combo MRT - LRT, 1 hour- 1h 10minutes. But again, most don't wanna walk to the station and prefer stucked at Jalan Tun Razak instead
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 14 2025, 12:21 PM)
the completion of MRT2 Putrajaya line, the ride from Ampang park to Kajang MRT is less than 1 hour. Compared to previously needing to combo MRT - LRT, 1 hour- 1h 10minutes. But again, most don't wanna walk to the station and prefer stucked at Jalan Tun Razak instead
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My cousin her house to nearest MRT2 station is only 500m and best part is she only need to transit at TRX for MRT1 to reach her workplace within 1 hour. The MRT1 station is located right in front of her workplace, less than 200m walk from MRT1 station to her office building. But yet she choose to drive and stuck at traffic for 1 hour. The reason is she has more freedom to drive and can go anywhere after work if needed. Ironically she never go any place after work instead everyday straight heading home. Speeding RM1200 for her RM100k new car, RM200 for season parking and RM300 for petrol, yet the myrapid pass monthly only RM50.

It is extremely hard to persuade people who already pampered to drive unless the cost of driving increase a lot to force them to take public transport.
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jun 24 2025, 11:23 AM)
its about political will ;

bring back GST means u going back to your own words

the whole gov will collapse, and DAP /PKR will be seen as useless as this is the thing they fight for back in 2018 .
if that happen, ppl will surely remember the useless parties which are DAP/PKR . no hope for them to win fed again
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Thought the government has been going back to their own words since the beginning of the administration, no?
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Jul 15 2025, 05:26 PM)
Thought the government has been going back to their own words since the beginning of the administration, no?
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Become totally opposite of what they speak against during pre-PRU, or summary copy previous BN gomen. BRIM etc

 

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