This one sendiri bodo ya.

Mazda cars are very sensitive cars. Cannot simply use some chapalang branded parts .

Always must use original Mazda

Kereta dari Chyna memang... oh wait.

Top tier Jap car.. cannot be... ini mesti masalah pengguna.
- Done protek.

But seriously, a lot of battery brands now here and there. Not sure which one to trust. Last I changed was Amaron.
I think the guy got a badly refurbished battery or a bad alternator.

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Jun 17 2025, 08:40 AM

Ehhh not EV???

The car might have alternator problem.

The supply come from alternator when driving. Not the battery.

What an amazing story. Car shuts down while driving, driver proceeds to replace the key fob battery. I will need to start carrying a spare key fob battery around nowadays.

kesian didn't buy insurance from mazlul

Any idea average maintenance cost for something like Mazda 3?

biasa la...x50 every day oso got battery issue ok je

True

So confused by the person's statement

See how it goes

Q85

This is a clear example of a sohai dumbass

- car died suddenly and cannot start so change key battery topkek lmao

- change to substandard battery, aiyo go to proper workshop change battery la, or buy a proper brand la, it's not rocket science to just search shopee, most ppl buy one sure OK la.

Car die suddenly happens all the time due to battery, usually will die when at junction wait traffic light but sometimes middle or road can happen, especially if you use cap ayam brand battery. Even with alternator running somehow the batter won't charge at all. Best also to check alternator. So change to a proper brand battery and check alternator.

This post has been edited by dest9116: Jun 17 2025, 08:45 AM

Fitnah!
Matsuda itu Asia BMW!

So got photos of the substandard battery or not? Share for our info better.

Just some sohai cannot afford suitable battery for his/her cx30.

He/she already know the battery subbranded..

Forgot to calculate the maintenance cost when buying a car right?

I am not car guy.

But car shut down suddenly when moving, i dont think is battery problem. More like engine problem.
His description macam got problem.
Macam yes woh. My bad.

This post has been edited by buffa: Jun 17 2025, 08:53 AM

Apehal bateri Q85 mahal sangat ? Ada tak bateri yang lagi murah boss ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jun 17 2025, 08:48 AM

Happened to my 2013 Prado once. Car battery was failing. The dash board was blinking viciously.
i was still able to drive for about a km and then car died.

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Jun 17 2025, 08:48 AM

Must Q85 la...others cannot

last time my accord battery low in office.
cannot start, push start no response.

then use my powerbank and hook it to the battery.
can start normally but with some error message, charging failure.
drove the car to my mechanic and they just replace the battery

FYI, for mazda cars if the keyfob u use some chapalang battery and the battery runs out while u r driving, the car cannot communicate with the keyfob and will shut the car down

Thats what the driver thought happened. Happened to my staff cx5 last time. After that know that mazda keyfob cant simply use chapalang branded battery

even branded one also got their low-tier battery, better don't change it via the apps. Better to change it in a workshop or shop that selling car battery.

My fren pakai ok je, yang penting saiz mesti sama, 75D23L definately cheaper than the 110D23L betul ? Itu la when users try to outsmart the system, janji murah.

My fren, my fren, all cibai info one especially when they are not in the battery business and giving out stupid advices.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jun 17 2025, 08:57 AM

Do you happen to know how long it takes for the car to shut down after not detecting the key?

I have experience 2x the alternator kong in 2 different type car.

The battery low will light up. And after sometime, the engine will die off and the display panel no supply.

You have enough time for the car to row to the side. Not like EV suddenly brake in the middle of the road.

When the alternator kong or 1/2 die (Not supply enough current), the car will use the battery supply till it run low.

Must listen to 2 sides of the story. Let’s hear what workshop or mechanic has to say

you'd think there was some kind of ISO or UNECE standard about not letting a car die in the middle of the road by design.

Learn to read the spec.

Take the pic or learn the battery spec of your car.

Everytime change, check back the battery spec is correct or not.

If the brand is give you good lifespan, stick to it.

Oh my goodness.

I remove my key fob from vehicle after it had started also no problems can sampai destination.

So I presume Mazda SC also check the key fob battery and issue a battery report for it ?

No need la, kan dah cakap substandard battery.

Oh gosh all these cars so complicated

Safety first lol

Walao dont sinkalan la

I like batteries that have their specifications indicated ON TOP OF the battery. Some manufacturers really cibai one, put the specifications at the side pulak. Macam mana owners going to know what is the battery specification for their vehicle ? Baik print the specifications at the BOTTOM of the battery. Betul la sohai.

I tot once car running even with dead battery can move what.

janji cheapskate asal bergaya, lepas tu sarahan orang lain

betul.... owner bodoh

Need to put expensive EFB (Enhanced Flooded Battery) due to stop start system in the car....

Using cheap standard lead-acid battery probably cause unnecessary issues...

Standard batteries may not provide the necessary power for the frequent starts as they are not designed for the deep cycling that stop/start systems require, leading to quicker degradation thus black out

Not probably, will definately cause problems. Then have the audacity to demand for warranty claim. Kepala Bapak Kau, I say.

Kevin said true means true. He got so many staffs working under him

Yup.. That's the most typical question posed by buyers nowadays.
So sellers will come out with a cheaper version of the item to suit buyer needs. In the case above, most probably a different type and model and hence the incident above.

Moral of the story. Don't try to be a cheapskate.

This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Jun 17 2025, 09:21 AM

hahahahahhahahahahahahahha cb

Apa itu cheap battery ? Give more specific example...

So mazada can LOD him now? Fitnah!

highest probability but for a 2023 car to have alternator issue is
car parts today made out of tofu ah?
same as honda civic steering rack

dont bs lah

i drove it before without key in car for quite a distance before turning back to take it

car didnt shut down by itself. but it did gave a warning that the key is not in the car

This post has been edited by mafioso: Jun 17 2025, 09:24 AM

buyer will definitely ask... dont ask always kena ketuk, bodoh why didnt ask for options, etc...

just seller need to tell cannot cause your car got stop start function or what sort, recomened is this or the AGM deep cycle type, even more expensive

car will beep for a while before going into limp mode and then dying... if driver bodoh bodoh continue drive then different story.

I think it should trigger the battery indicator, right?

With vehicles nowadays rely everything on ECU, once the voltage goes below the required voltage to power ECU, everything shut down immediately. I think unlike older vehicles, not much time gap before total shutdown

Know the difference between driving without a working keyfob in the car and driving with a keyfob that ran out of battery. Big difference dude

As i said, Mazda cars are super sensitive to the type of battery u use.

Not like Toyota or Honda

This post has been edited by sexysarah1992: Jun 17 2025, 09:28 AM

Not necessary nowadays with modern electronics. There are many possibilities, if the ECU detected voltage out of normal range it can also shut down to protect its board from being fry or another possibility is the key fob battery, if cannot communicate with the security system it will tot that the car is being driven out by theft and activate the immobilizer (this 1 usually meter should got keyfob or security warning/sound to highlight before shutting down).

Manufacturers that maintain their standards will not do that, but those that don't have standards will do the maximum minimum of what is required of them just to cross the warranty period. I have always thought that no battery can be smaller than the standard Kancil NS40ZL battery but now the market is producing even smaller batteries than the standard NS40ZL. So comelnya and then owners complain batteries these days don't lasts.

The problem with standards and regulation they always take the ideal case, even when speculating fail safe scenario.

So even if they're analyzing a total electrical failure, the road condition is assumed ideal with cars moving at safe speeds, safe distances and can stop in time.

Biasa la boss, parts these days are really made out of tofu. Just ask SleeplessEyes, he will show you owner groups complaining about alternator failure AFTER the 1st battery replacement.

I am using Varta Q85 for my CX-5. 15 months now and still going good. RM414 after discount.

Boseku, Beli kat shoppe and look for varta silver. Much cheaper.

it's either really tofu part or another probability is (depends on car) there is a specific way to change the battery and they did it wrong
which result in the failure of the alternator

This kind of sinkarlan aplenty, not even the owner or have not even try before but talk like they knew everything.

I have yet to see an AGM battery for this battery size. I don't think an AGM Battery this size even exist.

Kinda sus. Bermaz has a 2 yr battery warranty. So instead of jump starting and going to bermaz to change the battery, owner chose to pay to change it outside. Hope they got an EFB battery and not normal batteries.

Not CCP not EV not byd not Chery not geely not zeekr.. as long not CCP and EV Salah owner lol

I've got this lady client who always come up to me, say my fren, my fren. So tulan already, I go search for evidences to prove my point. Then forwarded it to her and gave her an ultimatum, either she listens to me completely or if she wants to listen to her fren, hopefully she can buy battery from her fren also.

>used to own Mazda 3 sedan
feels good man
Nearlee

CCP ICE/EV cars also salah owner....salahan bodo go buy.

Buy expensive car lagi want to skimp on parts and insurance. Pretend Kaya?

Must be the istop system.
Turn off the engine suddenly no power to turn the engine back on.
Was this at traffic light or what?

This post has been edited by Drian: Jun 17 2025, 09:49 AM

But when so many owners are complaining of the same identical issue, it can't be that they are doing the installation wrong, right ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jun 17 2025, 09:49 AM

Car owner changed the battery to another brand that does not match specs in Aug 2024. 8 months later the batter began to deteriorate faster than normal and the car having so many electronics that require consistent power shuts down to protect itself from irregular power situation.

You buy cars with so many sensors and electronics, you have to get an expensive battery to support it. No other way around it.

I almost choked reading this. Ofcourse, Mazda designed their cars to shut down mid-drive just because you used a capalang battery in the key fob. Sounds totally safe and logical. I’m sure their engineers thought, 'Let’s kill the engine on the highway if someone saves RM3 on a battery.'

Batteries can die anytime, anywhere, at 110km/h on the highway or while stuck in traffic. If Mazda actually built their system to shut the car down just because the key fob battery gave up, they’d be looking at lawsuits every day. Please dont skl.

I was trying to explain the telephone conversation I am always getting.

That's why avoid EV, PHEV, MH.

And all Germans now use mild hybrid and totally unreliable. Bodo.

you never know
even BMW has a specific procedure to change their battery

and never ever trust the shop staff too, their knowledge is worse than the owner or normal people
i order a battery change for my saga and that dude also didn't know the correct procedure to change it

he really thought he can just unplug whichever terminal is easier and put it back on whichever way/order he wants

I have a feeling he didn’t use deepcycle AGM batteries for start stop system.

The normal batteries cannot withstand the discharge level for start stop system.

I am begining to suspect that it's cheaper buy a new car than to replace a battery. High Income Nation mah. LOL

I think so too. Car won't stop running suddenly if no battery, this is ICE not EV.

Must be she stop somewhere then istop kick in and cannot restart.

Cukur I must know my shit right cause 2 units under my care are working perfectly and they are owned by women. Units owned by men, macam macam ada, pakai sampai acid keluar another pakai sampai RPM meter not working anymore after their 1st battery replacement.

i normally dont DGAF but this niasing really sin ka lan dou

yea.. Mazda cars with auto/start stop MUST use this code punya battery. Carput noob ka? don't know Mazda need to use special code battery

Maybe owner asked for cheapest

Asia's BMW got BMW problem is normal

The alternator also can spoil by the user DIY. If he install something that suck a lot of current without calculate or know how much the alternator generate, can smoke it.

I check the alternator current charge the battery after start the engine. It will supply 60A. Different car different rate.


Yes, it will trigger battery low light. Do the driver aware?

But it can be confuse also.

The car still able to start and run even light up. If the alternator not totally kong. It still can generate some current. But not 100%.

My experience like take a week or 2 before the alternator totally kong. The alternator maybe still supply like 60% while the battery supply 40% when driving. Slowly the alternator supply reduce %.

When totally kong, the new battery install will only last like 35min before the car shut down.

the battery over 500 , compatible but still branded save you a hundred. but this is istop era.

byd stop middle of the road, salah byd.

mazda stop middle of the road, salah owner bodoh.

kekwa even the omoda 5 case where chery sent it to puspakom to verify the brake is working, still salah puspakom bribed by chery, salahan chery.

kekwa mentality

BINGO.

I'm assuming an alternator issue then. Not so sure what the difference of an unknown brand battery a branded battery, apart from CCA rating (premium, branded batteries usually have a high CCA level), but nowadays, cheaper brand batteries, Astra, can also provide a good level of CCA rating vs other rival, but remain affordable.

but to said an unknown brand makes an issue with the car is surprising on technical grounds.

Carput sure LOD him

If the alternator was the problem, how is it possible for the driver to continue driving to his destination or until today, after the battery replacement ?

Not CCP car no news value....
Sure isolated case later......

If the alternator fails, your car runs only on battery power, which will eventually run out. - Chatgpt

Definitely and wouldn't the owner also mentioned about the battery warning indicator light in his rant ?

This Mazda skyactive engine is like 10 or more years liao...unlikely new found fault lah...

So old tech edey.

campro so many years already also got issue la ..owai

Based on handling family CX5 for Bermaz, the majority of Bermaz SC are not so technical, sound technicians, mechanics. Only had a good experience with Glenmarie Bermaz Motor Trading Sdn Bhd (Body & Paint Centre) here.

inb4 claim steering clock spring, rear tyres both sides wheel bearing at relatively low mileage, 12k km at this SC. Other SC said both issues as normal

If CARPUT is able to identify who the owner is and especially if they can prove that it was the owner who insisted on wanting a cheaper RFB battery, when was advised the more expensive EFB-Q85 was the correct battery.

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jun 17 2025, 10:31 AM

for many modern cars, if the battery light pop up, or Honda, check charge system indicators; those are due to the alternator. best if the car owner send it to SC then, and push for alternator parts check and claim



This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jun 17 2025, 10:32 AM

Thanks bro for the info. So Honda now does not have the standard Battery Warning Light Indicator anymore but the words CHARGE SYSTEM indicated instead ? Good to know.

Can be misleading though. Customers will think that if they continue driving, the alternator will recharge the battery, correct ?

This post has been edited by Roman Catholic: Jun 17 2025, 10:36 AM