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post Jun 16 2025, 12:45 PM, updated 6 months ago

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But prefer SST instead?

Saying GST burden to those B40s.

Please explain in layman terms
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post Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM

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cause already implemented and rolled back.... if implement again so soon will make them look weak
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post Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM

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public also dont want GST what.
people that complain everything mahal tax sana sini want GST makes no sense.
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post Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM

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cos the previous gst was a mess. duit tak cukup bagi refund
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post Jun 16 2025, 12:52 PM

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Malaysia implementation

Ego

Potentially losing erection but i don't think it will make much diff now
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post Jun 16 2025, 12:59 PM

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the new SST rule gonna be very confusing to everyone. It would be easy for big retailer to modify their tax calculations, but for small2 shop or kedai runcit, it would be difficult.
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gst all business need do except below500k, sst not all business need do .
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Because PH who die2 want to abolish get back then, now kenot bring back coz high ego, they can lower the gst 3% and improve the gst to prevent exploitation.
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post Jun 16 2025, 01:23 PM

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They need to swallow their pride and reimplement GST

No exceptions. . Start with 2% rate. Make sure funds recieved kept separate from Treasury. Refund within the SOP period

All kena. Rubber tappers/unemployed/bangla/T1% ....

Easy.

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post Jun 16 2025, 01:26 PM

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Because give so many reasons GST no good kenot spin back to say good. Ekceli easy to say nia. Last time no good because of implementation. New GST rebrand to VAT with new features better than last time. Done.
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post Jun 16 2025, 01:29 PM

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What is the difference between GST and SST?
Single-stage Taxation: SST applies a single-stage tax, levied either on the sale of goods (Sales Tax) or on services provided (Service Tax). Unlike GST, which taxes multiple stages of production, SST taxes goods and services only once, making it simpler for businesses to manage.
https://www.refrens.com/grow/sst-vs-gst/

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post Jun 16 2025, 01:34 PM

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every tax is a burden to everyone
waiting someone say remove all taxes for GE

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post Jun 16 2025, 01:36 PM

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PH-cai bodoh already guling-guling on the road and gotten their pristine yellow shirts dirty. Sampai sekarang pun belum cuci. How to guling-guling on the road today to challenge SST? So they just suck it up and accept SST lah. There’s your layman’s answers.
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post Jun 16 2025, 01:41 PM

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I've said it before, the one thing they should've u-turn on was on abolishing gst, instead rebrand it as improve implementation of gst while maintaining/reducing the 6% rate (i.e. easier claims, more well defined gst taxable items). This is IF gomen wanted to reduce the reliance on petronas money to fill gomen operational coffers.

But hindsight is always 20/20
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post Jun 16 2025, 01:43 PM

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Rokek suka SST aka Suka Suka Tax

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QUOTE(coconutxyz @ Jun 16 2025, 12:52 PM)
Malaysia implementation

Ego

Potentially losing erection but i don't think it will make much diff now
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post Jun 16 2025, 01:57 PM

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Because it would be an unpopular u-turn.

Sst is basically gst, with similar cost to the public but lower revenue for the government. People want the gst (as long as the returns are handled honestly) because if the costs are going to go up, at least the money should go into the treasury.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:26 PM

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Susah nak songlap
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM)
cos the previous gst was a mess. duit tak cukup bagi refund
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:31 PM

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i just laugh at people in this thread who suggested GST at 3%, can see how malaysians are trash in math and being realistic.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 16 2025, 01:57 PM)
Because it would be an unpopular u-turn.

Sst is basically gst, with similar cost to the public but lower revenue for the government. People want the gst (as long as the returns are handled honestly) because if the costs are going to go up, at least the money should go into the treasury.
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What lower revenue?
Soon everything oso kena!

Actually most Rakyat willing pay tax IF no songlap and irresponsible wastages...
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GST disguise as SST
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imagine suddenly they announced revert back to GST, those accounts system need to re-do again, and its not free, then ppl kecoh no vote how.
also, b4 die die say GST no gud, now revert back slap own face, ppl no vote how.
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GST is good but mismanage

SST is just bad


I guess the next GE many will turn the table
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM

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The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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post Jun 16 2025, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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First time experienced from SST to GST, sure many hiccups. But the most important thing no songlap noted from last occasion

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 16 2025, 07:18 PM)
First time experienced from SST to GST, sure many hiccups. But the most important thing no songlap noted from last occasion
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since there'll be no tax refund to the lower tiers, it should be ok.


the songlap can still happen after that. whistling.gif you know, project for you here, project for you there....
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 07:29 PM)
since there'll be no tax refund to the lower tiers, it should be ok.
the songlap can still happen after that.  whistling.gif  you know, project for you here, project for you there....
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Again best if can show which project names as songlap related to gst refund?

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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Your last sentence shows you are not an accouting or tax people

E-invoice + GST working together like 1+1> 3

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Rakyat x mau GST and SST

Kalau income tax boleh abolish, rakyat lagi happy
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Simple... Coz they have to admit while najib has his faults, gst is not one of them...
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If the previous Gomen did songlap the gst refund, then there is good reason why to switch to SST. But songlap not found for gst refund
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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SST single tier??? What weed are u smoking!
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At the front of peoples eyes, say dont want to tax everyone especially the B40s.

At behind, I know you know la. If no songlap, no approve.
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when tax income still not enough... gomen will back to GST/VAT

wait and see
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post Jun 17 2025, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM)
public also dont want GST what.
people that complain everything mahal tax sana sini want GST makes no sense.
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Introduce GST > Inflation Ep 1
Remove GST > Price not coming down
Introduce SST > Inflation Ep 2
Introduce new SST > Inflation Ep 3
Remove petrol subsidy > Inflation Ep 4

We can stop at one time pain, now 4 times …

The only thing that wont increase inflation is to have salary and benefit cut for ministers/MP

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 17 2025, 07:57 AM)
when tax income still not enough... gomen will back to GST/VAT

wait and see
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Government only pandai squeeze rakyat to increase income? Ownself no effort kah? Berbillion billion investment mana? Waste money everyday fly here n there tin kosong
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PH needs another term. If implement now sure jahanam d. If they win GE16, then likely GST will return with low entry rate first. For now, they implement the petrol subsidy removal first to cut down deficit.

Btw, I totally support GST to be reimplemented. Less trouble seriously, and everyone kena fair and square.
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 16 2025, 12:45 PM)
But prefer SST instead?

Saying GST burden to those B40s.

Please explain in layman terms
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Vote Bank la.

Your spend years creating a bad narrative that GST is bad and that is the reason the cost of living went up.

you can turn around and say it was actually better than SST. - politician will never telan ludah sendiri.

Learn from the Centurion - they whole world know his current claim is bullshit but still try to sell.
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Because roket and its bajingans has lots price raising businesses that is not taxable back then.
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 16 2025, 12:45 PM)
But prefer SST instead?

Saying GST burden to those B40s.

Please explain in layman terms
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Ego la. U think gov care about rakyat. Don't be naive.
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QUOTE(ben_ang @ Jun 16 2025, 03:35 PM)
imagine suddenly they announced revert back to GST, those accounts system need to re-do again, and its not free, then ppl kecoh no vote how.
also, b4 die die say GST no gud, now revert back slap own face, ppl no vote how.
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einvoicing system can be a "gst" system that without tax rate. If gst return it is easy just modify a bit of einvoicing system will do.
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Jun 16 2025, 12:45 PM)
But prefer SST instead?

Saying GST burden to those B40s.

Please explain in layman terms
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kawan2 tak boleh songlap with gst all kantoied kena track
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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 17 2025, 08:02 AM)
Introduce GST > Inflation Ep 1
Remove GST > Price not coming down
Introduce SST > Inflation Ep 2
Introduce new SST > Inflation Ep 3
Remove petrol subsidy > Inflation Ep 4

We can stop at one time pain, now 4 times …

The only thing that wont increase inflation is to have salary and benefit cut for ministers/MP
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summary, retain SST, which collection is not enough for countries' usage, allocation, subsidy, and development, hence as usual, korek the oil fund from Mr. P
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jun 16 2025, 01:29 PM)
What is the difference between GST and SST?
Single-stage Taxation: SST applies a single-stage tax, levied either on the sale of goods (Sales Tax) or on services provided (Service Tax). Unlike GST, which taxes multiple stages of production, SST taxes goods and services only once, making it simpler for businesses to manage.
https://www.refrens.com/grow/sst-vs-gst/
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if only so simple

in reality,

many layers of taxes ,tariffs and levies in msia

GST was meant to eventually simply it all, but politicians in office in msia will never admit mistake

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QUOTE(vassilius @ Jun 17 2025, 08:08 AM)
PH needs another term. If implement now sure jahanam d. If they win GE16, then likely GST will return with low entry rate first. For now, they implement the petrol subsidy removal first to cut down deficit.

Btw, I totally support GST to be reimplemented. Less trouble seriously, and everyone kena fair and square.
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Ego and tak mau admid Gst is better

Will make current administration look weak when everything else they promise didn't come true except GST abolishment

 

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