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post Jun 16 2025, 01:57 PM

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Because it would be an unpopular u-turn.

Sst is basically gst, with similar cost to the public but lower revenue for the government. People want the gst (as long as the returns are handled honestly) because if the costs are going to go up, at least the money should go into the treasury.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:26 PM

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Susah nak songlap
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 16 2025, 12:51 PM)
cos the previous gst was a mess. duit tak cukup bagi refund
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:31 PM

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i just laugh at people in this thread who suggested GST at 3%, can see how malaysians are trash in math and being realistic.
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Jun 16 2025, 01:57 PM)
Because it would be an unpopular u-turn.

Sst is basically gst, with similar cost to the public but lower revenue for the government. People want the gst (as long as the returns are handled honestly) because if the costs are going to go up, at least the money should go into the treasury.
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What lower revenue?
Soon everything oso kena!

Actually most Rakyat willing pay tax IF no songlap and irresponsible wastages...
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:34 PM

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GST disguise as SST
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:35 PM

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imagine suddenly they announced revert back to GST, those accounts system need to re-do again, and its not free, then ppl kecoh no vote how.
also, b4 die die say GST no gud, now revert back slap own face, ppl no vote how.
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GST is good but mismanage

SST is just bad


I guess the next GE many will turn the table
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM

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The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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post Jun 16 2025, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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post Jun 16 2025, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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First time experienced from SST to GST, sure many hiccups. But the most important thing no songlap noted from last occasion

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jun 16 2025, 07:18 PM)
First time experienced from SST to GST, sure many hiccups. But the most important thing no songlap noted from last occasion
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since there'll be no tax refund to the lower tiers, it should be ok.


the songlap can still happen after that. whistling.gif you know, project for you here, project for you there....
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post Jun 16 2025, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 07:29 PM)
since there'll be no tax refund to the lower tiers, it should be ok.
the songlap can still happen after that.  whistling.gif  you know, project for you here, project for you there....
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Again best if can show which project names as songlap related to gst refund?

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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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Your last sentence shows you are not an accouting or tax people

E-invoice + GST working together like 1+1> 3

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post Jun 16 2025, 08:44 PM

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Rakyat x mau GST and SST

Kalau income tax boleh abolish, rakyat lagi happy
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Simple... Coz they have to admit while najib has his faults, gst is not one of them...
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post Jun 17 2025, 07:16 AM

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If the previous Gomen did songlap the gst refund, then there is good reason why to switch to SST. But songlap not found for gst refund
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QUOTE(tupai @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
The way I see it. Malaysia's GST problem was number 1, mismanaged. Many companies complained difficult to get refunds. Number 2, it's multitier, every step got GST, then refund, for the purpose of tracking transaction so that companies cannot tipu on tax. Problem here when multitier, got some people they know refund sometime lambat, they hike up price so that they don't rugi in term of cash flow. When the lambat refund came in they syok. So ended up those in the last stage of GST have to pay a bit more.

SST on the other hand is single tier. Old sst less coverage, prone to kena tipu by companies coz no tracking of any previous transaction. Hence this results in less revenue for gomen. Mind that this is all my opinion.

So madani want to fix this but didn't dare going back to GST. So they up SST coverage then to track transactions they intro e-invoice.

Got one ktards claim e-invoice wasn't planned by madani but by previous gomen. So dont know which previous gomen that he meant. Maybe abah or Sabri or maybe bijan. If he meant bijan, it's kinda funny coz if using GST what for using e-invoice.
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SST single tier??? What weed are u smoking!
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At the front of peoples eyes, say dont want to tax everyone especially the B40s.

At behind, I know you know la. If no songlap, no approve.

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